A lot better than fletcher has been
FA Premier League
Sunderland 1:1 Manchester United
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- Sun, 24 August 2014 @ 4:00pm BST
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Frankly, I'm not at all surprised at the results so far. We are a completely dysfunctional squad; having to play some individuals who, quite honestly, didn't deserve another season on our books.
It's still better than Rodwell and Cattermole. Those two are garbage.We are basically playing.....
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We are easily in the top 3 worst midfield in PL(and maybe wvwn Defense).
lmao yesCleverley...just shocking really. He used to show so much promise and ability. Its almost like he is a completely different player now. Absolutely no confidence to complete a pass and just looks lost out there. Fletcher not much better.Our central midfield is diabolical. Sunderland have a better central midfield than we do. Sunderland.
On last season's form, Carrick isn't much better than the two out there.
We have Ander to come back in, but we clearly need another midfielder to help him and to cover him if he's injuredI love football such a crazy sport.Cleverley though, how shit is he? No real purpose when on the ball, he slows down our play. Him and Fletcher form a very ridiculous combo very, very poor.Valencia has been pointless, as always!These players just aren't capable of playing the system Van Gaal wants to play. I wonder what he's thinking right now.
Come to think of it, they're not capable of playing any system. That was a bottom half of the table performance in the first half.We are basically playing.....
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We are easily in the top 3 worst midfield in PL(and maybe wvwn Defense).
I like this.Di Maria will not be enough to save this shit we serve every week. We badly need at least another CM. Neither Fletcher nor Cleverley are anything close to beeing good enough. And Young is back to beeing useless as feck.
If we have to pay 100 m to get Vidal we should. This is shocking.When we lost last time against Swansea we will buy Di Maria, when we lost today, we will buy Vidal?
Why did Fletcher have to come back? He offers nothing in attack or defence
Even with the extra man we've been shit.We are basically playing.....
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We are easily in the top 3 worst midfield in PL(and maybe wvwn Defense).
A reanimated donkey corpse would look good in our midfield right now.We have probably one of the worst five central midfields in the league. Average wingbacks with Young and Valencia and an unexperienced/average back 3 with Blackett, Keane and Jones. Playing good football beginns at the back. Even Ronaldo Suarez and Co wouldnt help us up front if we cant control the game in midfield.
Well, let's see who has the last laugh then. I pity you and some on here watching the game and giving up before half time. When it was Moyes, I was as nervous as some of you because I knew he had no plan. Until LvG proved me wrong I am still holding out hope the players would come out being better. That's my attitude for now.Isn't really working today either. Hopefully we can turn it up in the second half.Shaw and Rafael for Young and Valencia would improve this enormously. Wingers pretending to be fullbacks isn't working.Wed be lucky to come away with a point at this rate.LVG wanted to assess his squad over pre-season. I have no idea how he thought our midfield was ok enough to not have any immediate additions. Either that or Woody couldn't buy the players we needed.I think the only time I felt we played like an actual team since SAF left was in that pre-season friendly against Madrid.
These last two performances (so far) highlight our lack of quality, but may put off quality players joining, who may believe CL is a far way off...Very unhappy with the performances of both Cleverley and Fletcher.
Christ we need a new midfield
How time change. Previously it was a disaster to get a point now it a relief to get one
I remember him playing for Watford at 19, bright and inventive and put in a shift.
I would rather have those 2 in our midfield right now.
This there is no help being offered by this 3 to help out the already dire midfield of Fletch -Clevz.The defence is working overtime because of the lack of composure/ability in midfield. The strikers aren't working at all for the same reason.
My nan would look quite nice in that midfield! This performance is gashtastic! Really hoped Fletch was back after preseason. He's not is he!Something needs to change . I only hope LVG knows whatI think when evans -rojo come into the team it will be very solid. We still need more defenders. Smalling will not be at the club if he performs like he has been doing, more confident with keane there. Set pieces will be the only test this sunderland will offer, i think we will win it in the second half scoring may be 2 goals.Fletcher is not helping us at all. Cleverley is trying to do the right thing but isnt capable :/ need new central players.In no doubt whatsoever that we are going to give away another goal and lose this one. The passing is awful and the fist touch of Cleverley, Young and most of the others is what you'd expect to see in a park in Sunday morning. The defence, meanwhile, doesn't seem to know what they are supposed to be doing. We need a defensive general in their. On top of all that, Gary Nev is right: are build-up play is slow and predictable (and it has been for more than a year now)Clevs off rooney cm welbeck up topSays it all when the first half man of the match is a 20 year old LCB playing his 2nd competitive game for us.Why are we even playing 3-5-2 when we have Di Maria coming in soon? Surely we will switch to 4-3-3....current formation is horribleWhat the fk happen with fast football or tiki taka. This is neither. We create Zero pressure.When we're injury free and Di Maria has arrived, I expect at least 5-6 changes in the lineup. Out with Blacket, Young, Valencia, Cleverley, Fletcher and one of Rooney/RvP. In with Shaw, Rafael, Herrera, Carrick, Di Maria, Januzaj and possibly a new CM for Jones. 4-3-3 obviously.- Status
Man of the Match
Runners-up
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23%
Tyler Blackett
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16%
Juan Mata
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4%
Danny Welbeck
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2%
Antonio Valencia
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2%
David de Gea
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1%
Tom Cleverley
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1%
Chris Smalling
Player Ratings
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Compiled from 459 ratings.
Score Predictions
741,167,143
- Man Utd win
- Sunderland win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 27% Sunderland 1:2 Man Utd
- 13% Sunderland 1:3 Man Utd
- 12% Sunderland 0:2 Man Utd
- 8% Sunderland 1:1 Man Utd
- 7% Sunderland 0:3 Man Utd
- 7% Sunderland 2:1 Man Utd
- 5% Sunderland 0:1 Man Utd
- 4% Sunderland 2:2 Man Utd
- 3% Sunderland 1:0 Man Utd
- 3% Sunderland 2:0 Man Utd
- 2% Sunderland 0:5 Man Utd
- 2% Sunderland 0:0 Man Utd
- 2% Sunderland 5:0 Man Utd
- 2% Sunderland 0:4 Man Utd
- 1% Sunderland 3:1 Man Utd
- 1% Sunderland 2:3 Man Utd
- 1% Sunderland 1:4 Man Utd
- 1% Sunderland 1:5 Man Utd
- 1% Sunderland 3:0 Man Utd
- 0% Sunderland 2:4 Man Utd
- 0% Sunderland 2:5 Man Utd
- 0% Sunderland 4:5 Man Utd
- 0% Sunderland 5:5 Man Utd
- 0% Sunderland 3:2 Man Utd
- 0% Sunderland 3:3 Man Utd
- 0% Sunderland 3:5 Man Utd
- 0% Sunderland 4:0 Man Utd
Match Stats
- Sunderland
- Man Utd
- Possession
- 45% 55%
- Shots
- 11 10
- Shots on Target
- 3 3
- Corners
- 4 4
- Fouls
- 10 15
Referee
Martin Atkinson
Man Utd Lineup
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replaced by Michael Keane
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replaced by Adnan Januzaj
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replaced by Danny Welbeck
