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Southampton 0:3 Manchester United

St Mary's Stadium

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Sat, 14 September 2024 @ 12:30pm BST
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    Bayindir

    Amass
    Maguire
    De Ligt
    Dalot

    Garnacho
    Ugarte
    Bruno
    Amad

    Rashford
    Zirkzee

    Some big calls need to be made, if Hojlund is fit by then I would start him ahead of Zirkzee.
    Give Bruno hours worth of Paul Scholes footage from 06-08 and tell him to watch these like a hawk.
    The only way we can become a good side with Bruno in the team he has to drop deeper and learn to play that role.
    Great plan. Build on the pure hope that at almost 30 Bruno will change his football instincts. Also good to see that your midfield contains exactly one player that isn't useless defensively.

    Big calls indeed. (pretty discouraging watching United through the last years and also seeing fans seemingly not taking the lessons)
     
    Great plan. Build on the pure hope that at almost 30 Bruno will change his football instincts. Also good to see that your midfield contains exactly one player that isn't useless defensively.

    Big calls indeed. (pretty discouraging watching United through the last years and also seeing fans seemingly not taking the lessons)

    I hope this is a joke.
    No joke.
    What made you say that? Lets go through this together:

    Onana? I mean, seriously…
    Taibi was thrown down the grand canal for a whole lot less after 3 matches.
    Maybe lets give someone else a chance? Like the other goalkeeper we brought last season for no apparent reason.

    Amass, a young talented natural LB, Barcelona field a bunch of 16-17 year olds with grandpa Lewa in a pressure cooker environment, where anything less than a league title is considered a disaster.
    At United you can finish 8th or lose 7-0 to Liverpool and get clapped off on top of a bumper new deal.
    Would also get Dalot back to his best position.

    Maguire? Did very little wrong for the past 8-10 months, Martinez has been poor this season, needs to be brought down a peg or two.

    No issues with De Ligt or Dalot, right? Good.

    Garnacho and Amad on the wings, 2 players who are not afraid to take on a full back, excellent mentality.
    Rashford looks like 2015 Depay, can’t beat a PL full back to save his life, take him out of his misery and stick him up front, worked for Depay.

    Ugarte? I mean, if the alternative is Casemiro, I would go with McUgarte.
    Bruno next to him in a 4-4-2, yes, why in the world not?
    I mean, what’s the worst that could happen, no one is going to die, relax.
    We haven’t controlled a football match in what feels like a decade playing all sorts of variations of 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1.

    I genuinely don’t see any other logic behind Bruno’s new lengthy contract other than him dropping deeper in a year or two, they all do it, Scholes did, Kroos did, Modric did it, why not Bruno?
    He would have to learn that role, the patience and the positioning, he would have to to prolong his career.

    And finally, two strikers up top, playing off each other.
    What a horrible thought! Crazy.

    Mainoo hasn’t had a good game since England beat that horrible Dutch side, that was months ago.
    He’s a kid, let him sit on the bench and win his place back, it would do him a world of good.

    Any questions mister?
     
    No joke.
    What made you say that? Lets go through this together:

    Onana? I mean, seriously…
    Taibi was thrown down the grand canal for a whole lot less after 3 matches.
    Maybe lets give someone else a chance? Like the other goalkeeper we brought last season for no apparent reason.

    Amass, a young talented natural LB, Barcelona field a bunch of 16-17 year olds with grandpa Lewa in a pressure cooker environment, where anything less than a league title is considered a disaster.
    At United you can finish 8th or lose 7-0 to Liverpool and get clapped off on top of a bumper new deal.
    Would also get Dalot back to his best position.

    Maguire? Did very little wrong for the past 8-10 months, Martinez has been poor this season, needs to be brought down a peg or two.

    No issues with De Ligt or Dalot, right? Good.

    Garnacho and Amad on the wings, 2 players who are not afraid to take on a full back, excellent mentality.
    Rashford looks like 2015 Depay, can’t beat a PL full back to save his life, take him out of his misery and stick him up front, worked for Depay.

    Ugarte? I mean, if the alternative is Casemiro, I would go with McUgarte.
    Bruno next to him in a 4-4-2, yes, why in the world not?
    I mean, what’s the worst that could happen, no one is going to die, relax.
    We haven’t controlled a football match in what feels like a decade playing all sorts of variations of 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1.

    I genuinely don’t see any other logic behind Bruno’s new lengthy contract other than him dropping deeper in a year or two, they all do it, Scholes did, Kroos did, Modric did it, why not Bruno?
    He would have to learn that role, the patience and the positioning, he would have to to prolong his career.

    And finally, two strikers up top, playing off each other.
    What a horrible thought! Crazy.

    Mainoo hasn’t had a good game since England beat that horrible Dutch side, that was months ago.
    He’s a kid, let him sit on the bench and win his place back, it would do him a world of good.

    Any questions mister?
    Midfield is the most important area of the pitch, and you want to only have 2 players there, and one of them being a false 9 as his normal position. Also last match Maguire played he was terrible, absolutely terrible.
     
    We'll either lose embarrassingly or win narrowly and unconvincingly

    Either way I refuse to care
     
    Bounce back ability? the international break and those staying behind for more training might help. Casemiro drops to the bench for Ugarte one obvious change to make and should be a few more. United's last 4 Premier league games against Southampton was 3 draws and 1 win 1-0.
     
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    The season feels over before it's barely begun. Unless INEOS act this morning, what's the point anymore?
     
    They've lost their opening 3 games so it should be an easy win? However if we lose against them it'll crater the CAF and there'll be riots in the streets.

    Either way I'm so numb to it all after today's defeat that I doubt I'll even care if we got another drubbing which is possible with the way we played today.
     
    They are SHIT, but we are a team that struggled with Coventry so why would Southampton not have a chance to beat us
     
    Anything less than five nill score in our favor here is useless.
     
    Couldn’t tell if you was being sarcastic or not but the fact a lot of our fans will actually be thinking it’s a tough game shows how far down we’ve gone. If city or Liverpool play them their fans will be like ‘easy 3 pts here’
    No, not being sarcastic at all.
     
    This won’t be it but I’d rather not see Bruno/Rashford/Casemiro start after today.

    Onana
    Mazraoui - De Ligt - Martinez - Dalot
    Amad - Ugarte - Mainoo - Garnacho
    Hojlund - Zirkzee​

    Wishful thinking. Casamiro may well not play but ETH will 100% start Bruno and 95% start Rashford.

    If mount is fit he will be in. Hojlund will be bench.
     
    -------------Onana
    Maz--MDL--Licha--Dalot
    --------Ugarte--Mainoo
    Amad----Bruno--Garnacho
    -------------Zirkzee

    Swap Ugarte for Collyer if Ugarte is not fit enough yet.
     
    Every man and his dog can see the team should be:

    ---------------------------Onana (Because no choice)---------------------
    Maz------------------------De Ligt-----------Martinez----------------Dalot
    -----------------------------Ugarte------------------Mainoo-----------------------
    Amad---------------------------------Bruno----------------------------Garnacho
    ------------------------------------------Hojlund------------------------------------

    ETH will probably start Rashford and Casemiro knowing him.
     
    ETH needs to help himself. Rashford should no longer be starting ahead of garnacho, Diallo is now our best winger and should be a sure thing for the right. Whoever is fit out of zirkzee and hojlund up top. Bruno, mainoo, ugarte, onana pick themselves. Play dalot, de ligt, martinez, mazroui back 4.

    Predict a narrow win for us.

    If he plays maguire, casemiro or rashford from the start then i probably wont watch
     
    Southampton looked like candidates to go straight back down to the Championship, before the season had even kicked off.
    They’ve so far lost their first 3 games.
    The’ll be lucky to win 10 games all season.

    Who would bet against us giving them their first win of the season ?
    Well they now have a better goal keeper than us.
    Still fancy us to win this though and if we don’t and if Hag is still in charge then I’m going for a very very long walk.
     
    Honestly a easy win 3-0 ETH will reassure this is the plans and we'll fall back on lovez, rinse and repeat.

    I remember the run of games last season where we played pretty much everyone in the bottom 6 in a row and won every game narrowly by single goal margin and all the cultists were pointing to the form chart with no context as proof he was a messiah
     
    People thinking Ugarte will play in this obviously didn't hear what the Pep Guardiola is my idol said. He might be on the bench if Collyer or Eriksen aren't fit

    I don't see Ugarte starting until maybe November.
     
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    We'll win 2-1 after conceding 26 shots

    One grim, marginal improvement this season is that we seem to be conceding a little less decent chances on goal. 10 shots on target in opening 3 games, which felt like standard fare almost every week last year.

    On this match, I cant state how disappointed I am with the start to the season, but am clinging to the minor improvements we've seen. The problem is a lack of goals, but i think if we primarily focus on improving how we play, goals will come and it doesnt matter who gets them. I think De Ligt will be a good signing, Mazraoui and Ugarte too. So i'd stick with what we've been doing but bring ugarte in for casemiro and start de ligt. Diallo obviously should start.
     
    Couldn’t tell if you was being sarcastic or not but the fact a lot of our fans will actually be thinking it’s a tough game shows how far down we’ve gone. If city or Liverpool play them their fans will be like ‘easy 3 pts here’

    They haven’t experienced 10 years of getting rolled over by teams like Southampton away?
     
    Was looking forward to international break then realised my country's first game is against England. I'm also half Italian, and they are also shite at the minute.

    I have United, Ireland and Italy - tough times folks!

    It's probably good there's an international break before Southampton. Gives time for things to settle and revaluate things.
     
    So i'd stick with what we've been doing but bring ugarte in for casemiro and start de ligt. Diallo obviously should start.

    baldy said Ugarte needs time to be worked into the squad and we are now going on a 2 week international break, so don't expect Ugarte starting until maybe November and Amad has already lost his place. Somehow lost his place after being basically the only attacking threat against Brighton
     
    Seem to struggle last 2 seasons with the early Saturday kick off.
    Should have took much.
    Question really is does cas or ugarte start
     
    baldy said Ugarte needs time to be worked into the squad and we are now going on a 2 week international break, so don't expect Ugarte starting until maybe November and Amad has already lost his place. Somehow lost his place after being basically the only attacking threat against Brighton

    I really think hes just going to have to suck it up and play him into fitness. We cant go on as we are.
     
    If Erik is still in charge I cant see us winning this, we cant score goals and Saints will defend in numbers so this has got 0-0 written all over it.

    We need to start Ugarte against Sainst as well instead of Casemiro.
     
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Score Predictions

171,43,30
  • Man Utd win
  • Southampton win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 22% Southampton 0:2 Man Utd
  • 19% Southampton 1:2 Man Utd
  • 12% Southampton 1:3 Man Utd
  • 9% Southampton 1:1 Man Utd
  • 7% Southampton 0:1 Man Utd
  • 6% Southampton 2:1 Man Utd
  • 6% Southampton 0:3 Man Utd
  • 4% Southampton 2:0 Man Utd
  • 3% Southampton 1:0 Man Utd
  • 2% Southampton 2:2 Man Utd
  • 2% Southampton 3:1 Man Utd
  • 2% Southampton 0:4 Man Utd
  • 1% Southampton 0:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Southampton 4:1 Man Utd
  • 1% Southampton 2:3 Man Utd
  • 1% Southampton 3:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Southampton 1:4 Man Utd
  • 0% Southampton 3:2 Man Utd
  • 0% Southampton 9:3 Man Utd
  • 0% Southampton 0:5 Man Utd
  • 0% Southampton 1:5 Man Utd
  • 0% Southampton 0:9 Man Utd
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Match Stats

  1. Southampton
  2. Man Utd
Overall Possession
43.7% 56.3%
Shots
6 20
Shots on target
4 10
Shots off target
1 3
Blocked shots
1 7
Total touches in the box
16 38
Goalkeeper saves
7 3
Aerial duels won
4 7
Fouls
11 14
Corners
0 7

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Stuart Attwell