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Sheffield United 2:3 Manchester United

Bramall Lane

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Thu, 17 December 2020 @ 8:00pm GMT
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    Might be a game for Matic, Donny, and Bruno in a 3 behind James Cavani (if fit) Mata.
     
    Absolutely gonna feck this up. There are too many bottlers in this team. The thought of being two points from top will scare them.

    Watch.
    Not collecting what should be 3 guaranteed points against a side with 1 point from 12 games so far would be Classic United this past 3 or 4 years. Anytime we get a glimpse of something possibly good happening, the players become passive and run scared. Horrible feeling we might only draw this because of this bottlers syndrome we tend to have.
     
    11 of the 12 teams to have played them have beaten them so it’s not that difficult. Appreciate that the margins have not been massive but they’re still rock bottom for a reason and we absolutely have to take advantage.
    They could easily have taken more points from their games. Against Leicester for example it was a Vardy injury time winner.

    The opportunity is certainly there but my point is the 11 players and subs used will have to be fully switched on and focused to take advantage.
     
    12 matches 1 point. Surely Wilder's job is on the line for this match, if they don't react sooner?

    Teams invest a lot of money and work hard to get up into the EPL.
    Why on Earth are Sheff Utd just passively allowing their team to get relegated.
    I don't think I've seen such a passive response to getting into the EPL.

    It's like getting promoted at work, with double pay and instead of working hard to learn the new role and succeed at it, you just sit back passively and fail every task in the job, so you can be demoted back to your old position.
     
    Teams invest a lot of money and work hard to get up into the EPL.
    Why on Earth are Sheff Utd just passively allowing their team to get relegated.
    I don't think I've seen such a passive response to getting into the EPL.

    It's like getting promoted at work, with double pay and instead of working hard to learn the new role and succeed at it, you just sit back passively and fail every task in the job, so you can be demoted back to your old position.

    you write this as if they were promoted last season.
     
    The team I want to see:

    Wan Bissaka----Tuanzebe---Maguire---Shaw
    --------Van de Beek-----------Fred--------------
    ---------------------------Fernandes----------------
    Greenwood----------Martial---------------Rashford
    I know they are shit but we should probably have a keeper in there, even if its calamity dave.

    I may not have 27k posts or a cock but in my opinion we should start 11 players
     
    Can't help wondering if we'll turn them into a table-topping side...

    We've turned many relegation battlers into prime Barcelona.
    Most recently we played Istanbul - a team other teams used to bolster their goal difference, but when we played them, they scored 2 and beat us.
    I remember back when we beat MCFC at their own ground, when they were at their very peak. We beat them, then lost the very next game to I think it was Aston Villa - a relegation battler.
    We've also played some sides who have strikers who have not scored in 20 games. They play us and immediately, we help them end their goal drought.

    Given the above, Sheffield Utd should absolutely play for 3 points. They can definitely win this game.
     
    Teams invest a lot of money and work hard to get up into the EPL.
    Why on Earth are Sheff Utd just passively allowing their team to get relegated.
    I don't think I've seen such a passive response to getting into the EPL.

    It's like getting promoted at work, with double pay and instead of working hard to learn the new role and succeed at it, you just sit back passively and fail every task in the job, so you can be demoted back to your old position.
    Chopping and changing when things go wrong isn’t always the answer.
     
    you write this as if they were promoted last season.

    They were promoted the previous season. The first season is always going to be shaky, but in their 2nd season (once they've got some EPL payments), they owe it to themselves to do everything possible to stay up. Right now, they are just laying down.
     
    Chopping and changing when things go wrong isn’t always the answer.

    1 point from 12 games - odds on to go down?
    I'd say that is exactly the time to chop and change. I know that the manager may think it's unfair but their board need to do something to stop the rot.
    When Moyes was fired, he was only here for 10 months, but the rot was setting in and something had to change.
     
    1 point from 12 games - odds on to go down?
    I'd say that is exactly the time to chop and change. I know that the manager may think it's unfair but their board need to do something to stop the rot.
    When Moyes was fired, he was only here for 10 months, but the rot was setting in and something had to change.
    The difference is, Wilder has pulled this club out of the depths of League One with a squad of players that shouldn’t be at this level. We’ve been on a high for 4 years, there was always going to be a slip. Wilder will be given the chance to put things right and he deserves that, hence why the board are backing him publicly saying the same as me.
     
    Diamonds are forever... Going with an alternative lineup:

    Henderson
    AWB - Maguire - Lindelof - Telles
    Matic
    Fred Pogba
    VDB
    Martial - Rashford​
     
    We won’t beat these lads without Bruno and Fred but they both need resting. Gonna be hard to manage everybody through the 5 games between now and New Years Day. All 5 look winnable on paper and we’d be very close to table toppers if we win them all but I know that’s never gonna happen is it. We just have to pick our strongest team for all the games and hope it works out somehow. Our second line is just to weak to allow us to rotate.
     
    We won’t beat these lads without Bruno and Fred but they both need resting. Gonna be hard to manage everybody through the 5 games between now and New Years Day. All 5 look winnable on paper and we’d be very close to table toppers if we win them all but I know that’s never gonna happen is it. We just have to pick our strongest team for all the games and hope it works out somehow. Our second line is just to weak to allow us to rotate.

    Fred just had a full week and a half of rest. He was resting during the latest international break too. He can manage five games in two weeks.
     
    Fred just had a full week and a half of rest. He was resting during the latest international break too. He can manage five games in two weeks.
    Yeah I'd assume Maguire, Fred and De Gea play all the games up to January except the cup one.
     
    We have to win this.

    But I'm sure the Ole in brigade will be getting their excuses ready for not beating Sheffield United whilst the Ole out brigade are getting ready to go ape shit.

    Can't wait.
     
    This might be the most difficult match we ever played this season. They desperately need points and we need points to climb up the table as well. This is the best time of the season to climb up the table. I hope Ole gets things right and we easily get the points.
     
    Chelsea losing means we will surely lose against Sheffield now. They being the worst team on the table actually scared me, knowing how we tend to lose these kinds of matches. :nervous:
     
    McT won't start. He's been playing constantly non-stop since the PSG game. Pretty sure he will be rested for Leeds game. I think we will see Pogba & Fred in pivot in this game.
     
    We might be facing a team in dreadful form this season,however we have failed to capitalise so many times when our rivals slip up
     
    Cavani potentially (if fit), but can’t see how anyone can say DVDB is part of our strongest 11. Not saying he won’t be in the future, but there’s nothing to say he has proved that yet.

    very well rested for this game, 2 extra days compared to City.
    I’d personally prefer Beek over Pogba, I don’t think Pogba should be anywhere near the team. Plus I like what I’ve seen from him, crisp one touch football that really quickens up our attack, he just needs more games in my opinion and I’m not sure why he isn’t getting more games.
     
    I understand Cavani but I don't see what DVB has offered to say he's integral to a win?
    Like I said in another post, I don’t think Pogba should be anywhere near the squad let alone the team and I think Beek is a very good player who quickens our play whenever he’s on the pitch in my humble.
     
    Shouldn’t be anywhere near our squad in my opinion.

    On the contrary, I'd want Pogba to make a statement by starting every game and playing out of his skin and driving us to a title with Bruno.

    But, if ifs and ands were pots and pans....
     
    On the contrary, I'd want Pogba to make a statement by starting every game and playing out of his skin and driving us to a title with Bruno.

    But, if ifs and ands were pots and pans....
    Fair enough but I think it sends out the wrong message as a club.
     
    The fact that this is not at Old Trafford gives me some confidence, which is strange. But I am always worried going into a game, when our rivals have dropped points.

    If I had to guess we will win this game, and then screw up against Leeds.
     
    Fair enough but I think it sends out the wrong message as a club.

    I think we need to stop thinking about the message that we are sending out as a club and focus on winning trophies.

    To his credit, Ole has changed the narrative around United and the squad of players is much more likeable now than it was at anytime since SAF's last team. There are enough players there who feel like our players.

    In my mind, Pogba, Lingard, Jones, Mata, Rojo and (to a lesser extent) Shaw, are the only ones I don't really care for. It's good that only 2 of them are getting into the squad purely because of their quality.

    We had Ronaldo who wanted to go to Madrid but gave us a title winning season before he left. Don't see why we should not give Pogba the chance to do that, if he really has it in him.

    Unfortunately, I don't think he cares that much anymore. He did care about United for sure when he came back, but there is too much water under the bridge here on both sides (player and fans) for him to really commit in the same way that Ronaldo did.

    I wish he could have. We really need some creative pressure to be taken off Bruno. Right now, United's chance creation depends totally on whether Bruno is having a good or bad game.
     
    After watching our rivals drop points and the calibre of our opponent, there should be absolutely no excuses not to get there points.

    Sod's law though.
     
    We have to win this.

    But I'm sure the Ole in brigade will be getting their excuses ready for not beating Sheffield United whilst the Ole out brigade are getting ready to go ape shit.

    Can't wait.

    Let's draw and piss everyone off!
     
    They could easily have taken more points from their games. Against Leicester for example it was a Vardy injury time winner.

    The opportunity is certainly there but my point is the 11 players and subs used will have to be fully switched on and focused to take advantage.

    This is it. There's only been a goal in it in most of their games.

    They were a decent side last year and they won't lose every game all season.
    I don't like playing teams on long losing runs as it has to end sometime.

    We obviously should beat them but we'll have to turn up from minute one and not give them a sniff.
     
    We have to win this.

    But I'm sure the Ole in brigade will be getting their excuses ready for not beating Sheffield United whilst the Ole out brigade are getting ready to go ape shit.

    Can't wait.
    “A draw away from home is always a good result”
     
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Marcus Rashford image Marcus Rashford 72% of 309 votes

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Score Predictions

210,17,10
  • Man Utd win
  • Sheffield Utd win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 24% Sheffield Utd 0:2 Man Utd
  • 23% Sheffield Utd 0:3 Man Utd
  • 12% Sheffield Utd 1:3 Man Utd
  • 8% Sheffield Utd 1:2 Man Utd
  • 7% Sheffield Utd 0:4 Man Utd
  • 5% Sheffield Utd 0:1 Man Utd
  • 4% Sheffield Utd 1:4 Man Utd
  • 3% Sheffield Utd 2:0 Man Utd
  • 2% Sheffield Utd 2:1 Man Utd
  • 2% Sheffield Utd 1:1 Man Utd
  • 2% Sheffield Utd 2:2 Man Utd
  • 2% Sheffield Utd 2:3 Man Utd
  • 2% Sheffield Utd 0:5 Man Utd
  • 2% Sheffield Utd 1:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Sheffield Utd 2:4 Man Utd
  • 1% Sheffield Utd 1:5 Man Utd
  • 0% Sheffield Utd 0:0 Man Utd
  • 0% Sheffield Utd 4:0 Man Utd
  • 0% Sheffield Utd 5:0 Man Utd
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Match Stats

  1. Sheffield Utd
  2. Man Utd
Possession
41% 59%
Shots
12 14
Shots on Target
6 8
Corners
6 3
Fouls
16 8

Referee

Michael Oliver