Europa League Round of 32 1st Leg

Midtjylland 2:1 Manchester United

MCH Arena, Denmark

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Thu, 18 February 2016 @ 6:00pm GMT
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    I'd think its 3 at the back with Keane getting a start.

    deGea
    McNair Smalling Blind
    Carrick Schneiderlin
    Lingard Mata Memphis
    Keane Martial​
     
    Convinced we are losing this one, and Louis still won't get fired.
     
    Pexbo said:
    While the fullback position is beyond ridiculously unlucky, I have absolutely no doubt that this reliance on youth was not only expected by our coaching staff this season, but also the biggest reason why Van Gaal is still with us.

    I think the board look at the list of youngsters Van Gaal is bringing through and genuinely believe that if they can be allowed to grow together over then next 2 or 3 years, they can create a special side.

    Martial, Memphis, McNair, CBJ, Lingard, Peirera, Shaw and maybe one or two others can make up the core of a squad that could be here for years. I don't expect them all to be world beaters, maybe only Martial and Shaw but if the others can reach the levels of Brown, O'Shea or Fletcher before them our squad will be in great shape. It's that sort of stability that we are right to be promoting and is probably why Van Gaal is still our Manager and Mourinho is not.
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    Far too sensible a post for this place at a time like this Pex!
     
    Danny Boi said:
    I know we have a lot of injuries and it's good to give the young players a chance but 8 youth players in an 18 man squad is too much.We have the same number of senior outfield players as we do academy players.Our squad depth is appalling and really needs to be addressed in the summer, particularly by replacing the likes of Jones and Rojo with players that can actually stay fit.
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    In a nutshell, with injures and lack of squad depth, we now fielding approximately half the team of youth players.
    Basically, what Fergie used to do in the League Cup, we are doing in our "proper" games.
    Lack of squad depth is killing us right now.
     
    Adisa said:
    Could be egg on face if this backfires.
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    Nope.
    He will merely shrug his shoulders.
    He will say we did badly and explain what we should have done.
    Basically, replay the Sunderland game's post match interview.

    Personally, I think he is now doing the bare minimum and counting the days till he retires.
    Of course, he wants to win (who wouldn't?), but I don't think he is too bothered if we lose.
     
    Pexbo said:
    I think the board look at the list of youngsters Van Gaal is bringing through and genuinely believe that if they can be allowed to grow together over then next 2 or 3 years, they can create a special side.
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    If this is true, then the board have effectively accepted that for the next 2-3 years, we will be also-rans and won't win anything.
    But this theory goes against their attempts to spend 140M Euros (or whatever crazy amount) to buy Neymar. Or 100M euros on Muller.
    If the board are thinking of this type of investment, they'll expect trophies immediately...not in 3-4 years.
     
    Jesus. 13 injuries is ridiculous.

    De Gea
    Love - Smalling - Carrick - Blind
    Lingard - Morgan - Herrera - Memphis
    Mata
    Martial​
     
    Borthwick-Jackson is apparently missing out because he's ill.
     
    He really isn't giving chance to youth because he's such a great man promoting youth players, he's forced to do it. Pereira's constantly on the bench, barely playing, Keane was at Preston, Wilson is loaned to Brighton (after rotting on the bench for half a year), Januzaj was sent on loan to BVB. All those could've played if he really was giving the youth a chance because we all know how shite our attack has been this year, not saying that those young lads would change it, no, merely pointing out that if he didn't have to play our youth, he simply didn't.

    Love, CBJ, Varela wouldn't get a sniff if everybody else wasn't injured (he even transformed two wingers into defenders).
     
    sunama said:
    If this is true, then the board have effectively accepted that for the next 2-3 years, we will be also-rans and won't win anything.
    But this theory goes against their attempts to spend 140M Euros (or whatever crazy amount) to buy Neymar. Or 100M euros on Muller.
    If the board are thinking of this type of investment, they'll expect trophies immediately...not in 3-4 years.
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    But we didn't sign those players, so expectations are lower. There is no harm doing both though. Adding stars to a core of developed talent is exactly what we have done for years.
     
    Kostur said:
    He really isn't giving chance to youth because he's such a great man promoting youth players, he's forced to do it. Pereira's constantly on the bench, barely playing, Keane was at Preston, Wilson is loaned to Brighton (after rotting on the bench for half a year), Januzaj was sent on loan to BVB. All those could've played if he really was giving the youth a chance because we all know how shite our attack has been this year, not saying that those young lads would change it, no, merely pointing out that if he didn't have to play our youth, he simply didn't.

    Love, CBJ, Varela wouldn't get a sniff if everybody else wasn't injured (he even transformed two wingers into defenders).
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    Think that's a bit unfair, he has kept a small squad knowing that over the cause of a season that some young players will get their chance to hold down a place, much like CBJ over recent weeks. he could have quite easily kept a lot of players around that were bloating our squad but not performing (rafael, evans, fletcher, RVP) and taken the easy option of playing them ahead of youth players.

    The players you mention when they have had chances under LVG haven't taken it. Januzaj was pretty awful last year while people like ashley young was doing well and by all accounts he wanted a loan, its not lvg's fault he didn't make the most of it there. Wilson for all the talent hasn't set the world alight when he had the opportunity in the first team last year.

    Pereira is the only player that in my opinion has not got the chances he deserves.

    You can't just use the argument that were not playing well so give youth a chance, most of them wont be ready, it could knock their confidence and get the fans on their backs before they've started.

    and can you imagine the backlash if he played lots of kids and we lost 4-0 for the next few weeks and used the excuse "the senior players weren't doing it so I gave youth a go."
     
    mikey_d said:
    Think that's a bit unfair, he has kept a small squad knowing that over the cause of a season that some young players will get their chance to hold down a place, much like CBJ over recent weeks. he could have quite easily kept a lot of players around that were bloating our squad but not performing (rafael, evans, fletcher, RVP) and taken the easy option of playing them ahead of youth players.

    The players you mention when they have had chances under LVG haven't taken it. Januzaj was pretty awful last year while people like ashley young was doing well and by all accounts he wanted a loan, its not lvg's fault he didn't make the most of it there. Wilson for all the talent hasn't set the world alight when he had the opportunity in the first team last year.

    Pereira is the only player that in my opinion has not got the chances he deserves.

    You can't just use the argument that were not playing well so give youth a chance, most of them wont be ready, it could knock their confidence and get the fans on their backs before they've started.

    and can you imagine the backlash if he played lots of kids and we lost 4-0 for the next few weeks and used the excuse "the senior players weren't doing it so I gave youth a go."
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    Ash has been playing RB/LB this season so he's not really competing with Januzaj for the spot. Januzaj could've as well played #10 replacing Mata who was poor most of the season or taken the right wing just like Jesse did. Wilson didn't really have a chance last year with RVP, Rooney and Falcao getting a chance ahead of him though, no? This season he was rotting on the bench for half a year before being loaned out to aforementioned Brighton.

    So let me get this straight, how are youth defenders such as Love or CBJ more ready for first team action than, say, Januzaj or Wilson both of whom had more 1st team experience than CBJ or Love when they were given a chance? And isn't playing a defender more responsible job, susceptible to flops yet they're thrown into deep water?

    Paddy McNair's not getting too many chances this season, is he? He's played what, 2-3 full matches this season for us, can't recall him in one COC/FA match where you'd expect the youth to appear indeed. Brutal as it sounds, when you really start looking into things instead of repeating the mantra that 'LVG introduces a lot of youth' it doesn't look all that rosy. Especially when you look at the context in which the youth indeed gets a chance to play.
     
    Predicted Line-up:
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    1. de Gea

    37. Love 33. McNair 12. Smalling 17. Blind

    16. Carrick 28. Schneiderlin

    35. Lingard 8. Mata 44. Pereira

    9. Martial
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    Bench:     20. Romero, ??. Riley, ??. Poole, 21. Herrera, 47. Weir, 7. Memphis, 48. Keane

    Predicted Score:     Midtjylland 0-4 Man Utd (Martial X2, Pereira, Keane)​
     
    Kostur said:
    Ash has been playing RB/LB this season so he's not really competing with Januzaj for the spot. Januzaj could've as well played #10 replacing Mata who was poor most of the season or taken the right wing just like Jesse did. Wilson didn't really have a chance last year with RVP, Rooney and Falcao getting a chance ahead of him though, no? This season he was rotting on the bench for half a year before being loaned out to aforementioned Brighton.

    So let me get this straight, how are youth defenders such as Love or CBJ more ready for first team action than, say, Januzaj or Wilson both of whom had more 1st team experience than CBJ or Love when they were given a chance? And isn't playing a defender more responsible job, susceptible to flops yet they're thrown into deep water?

    Paddy McNair's not getting too many chances this season, is he? He's played what, 2-3 full matches this season for us, can't recall him in one COC/FA match where you'd expect the youth to appear indeed. Brutal as it sounds, when you really start looking into things instead of repeating the mantra that 'LVG introduces a lot of youth' it doesn't look all that rosy. Especially when you look at the context in which the youth indeed gets a chance to play.
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    The point you're missing is that he's created that context. He wants his squad players to be youngsters so that they get opportunities through injuries etc. it's why (cobtensiously) he's kept such a small squad.
     
    ivaldo said:
    The point you're missing is that he's created that context. He wants his squad players to be youngsters so that they get opportunities through injuries etc. it's why (cobtensiously) he's kept such a small squad.
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    No, I'm really not missing anything here, for somebody who's supposedly so good with youth injuries should not be the only factor that has to take place in order to play youth. That 'etc.' that I've bolded is not really needed.

    He just loves talking shit that he's specially kept the squad thin so the youth can play. Problem is that he trimmed the squad in attacking department and he's giving youth defenders a chance while those attacking players that I've mentioned got feck all chance. On top of that, would he give a chance to CBJ or Love if everybody was fit?
     
    I actually thought this might be shown on Channel 5, didn't realise BT Sport had the rights to Eurpoa League too. There really is no free to watch footie anywhere now is there? Should probably stop paying so much out for Sky Sports every month really, BT seem to have taken the rights to the vast majority of United games.

    Anyway, it's rubbish to be in this situation but let's hope we can progress as far as possible and somehow end the season with something to show for it. I think we will win by a couple of goals tonight at least even with the news about Rooney, Martial will lead the line just fine and we have more than enough quality to beat them without too much drama.
     
    Pexbo said:
    While the fullback position is beyond ridiculously unlucky, I have absolutely no doubt that this reliance on youth was not only expected by our coaching staff this season, but also the biggest reason why Van Gaal is still with us.

    I think the board look at the list of youngsters Van Gaal is bringing through and genuinely believe that if they can be allowed to grow together over then next 2 or 3 years, they can create a special side.

    Martial, Memphis, McNair, CBJ, Lingard, Peirera, Shaw and maybe one or two others can make up the core of a squad that could be here for years. I don't expect them all to be world beaters, maybe only Martial and Shaw but if the others can reach the levels of Brown, O'Shea or Fletcher before them our squad will be in great shape. It's that sort of stability that we are right to be promoting and is probably why Van Gaal is still our Manager and Mourinho is not.
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    So he bought in two good players for £90m (Martial and Shaw, something which Mourinho could have done also considering his interest or signings in Shaw/Stones/Zouma/Varane/Ozil etc). Think Shaw was coming even before LVG was here anyway like Herrera if I remember correctly.

    Depay so far has been a £25m flop
    Lingard is an extremely average player
    Peirera has been subbed on a couple of times while McNair looks very shaky when he played previously
    CBJ has been good though

    Yeah, I don't think the reason he is in a job is because of the likes of Mcnair and Lingard and our boards desire for them to become average squad players
     
    Kostur said:
    No, I'm really not missing anything here, for somebody who's supposedly so good with youth injuries should not be the only factor that has to take place in order to play youth. That 'etc.' that I've bolded is not really needed.

    He just loves talking shit that he's specially kept the squad thin so the youth can play. Problem is that he trimmed the squad in attacking department and he's giving youth defenders a chance while those attacking players that I've mentioned got feck all chance. On top of that, would he give a chance to CBJ or Love if everybody was fit?
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    No team operates without injuries, players will always get opportunities through that, Van Gaal decided to give those opportunities to youth players, it's not hard. Of course Love wouldn't have gotten a chance, point to me a manager who would've given him a chance? He has given chances to plenty of youth players, it's there for all to see, truly unbelievable to think if he had it all his way he wouldn't have given youngsters opportunities. Youngsters would've been given even more opportunities if we would've found form and a settled Starting XI, unfortunately that never came to light not because of his policy towards youth but his struggles to find success here. This policy can be seen throughout his career, question has ability as a manager but not his policy towards youth.
     
    Zoo said:
    CBJ has been rested.
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    No he is injuired/ ill

    peridigm said:
    That makes absolutely no fecking sense. I can see resting a player if we're playing a top side in 3-4 days but our next match is Monday against Shrewsbury. LVG must think he has a better chance at the FA Cup than the Europa League. Realistically, we won't win either one and he is just stretching the length of time until he sacked.
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    Calm down
     
    Laphroaig said:
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    Why is he not be touted more to be our next manager after LVG?!

    OGS has just as much 'emotional legitimacy' as Giggs and most critically years of experience of success and failings as a manager. His grey hairs give him authority and I think he'd do as good a job as any right now.

    Surely he's punching below his weight with his 2nd stint at Mode. Would love to have him back in the PL.
     
    sammsky1 said:
    Why is he not be touted more to be our next manager after LVG?!

    OGS has just as much 'emotional legitimacy' as Giggs and most critically years of experience of success and failings as a manager. His grey hairs give him authority and I think he'd do as good a job as any right now.

    Surely he's punching below his weight with his 2nd stint at Mode. Would love to have him back in the PL.
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    I'd definitely feel more comfortable with Ole instead of Giggs. He's not a cnut of a man either.

    Mind you I'd rather we no longer experiment with this sentimental romantic BS and just sign Mourinho.
     
    Just came home from my vacation and I'm reading that Rooney, varela, darmian, CBJ and whoever else is now out? Who the feck s going to play at fullback for us? Is McNair fit? Or is it gonna be Love making his full debut. We seem a bit fecked regardless with all the players out.
     
    "We have to beat Midtjylland, who are a very good team. They play in a difficult shape for us. Sunderland showed it and Midtjylland play in the same shape, 4-1-4-1. They are specialised at set-plays - they have scored 48 per cent of their goals from them. So we’ll try to organise for that but it's difficult. We hope we can do that but we mustn't give too many corners or free-kicks away. We don't have tall players but we know that in advance. I cannot select other players now because of their height. We have a squad of 26 players and 13 are left, then the rest are out of the second team. I always have to select players on quality, not height, but it is a problem. The circumstances are also not so easy. I have seen that the pitch is smaller than usual so it is not so easy to beat Midtjylland here and a lot of teams have experienced that."
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    We shall try, but it's not so easy.
     
    This is going to be a trainwreck of a starting 11, one can only laugh :lol:

    We could win 5-0 or we could lose .... no idea. The Danes will fancy their chances and go out with whatever guns they have blazing.
     
    Kaos said:
    I'd definitely feel more comfortable with Ole instead of Giggs. He's not a cnut of a man either.

    Mind you I'd rather we no longer experiment with this sentimental romantic BS and just sign Mourinho.
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    Ole would be comfortably better than Giggs, at least he's won something.

    But yes, I agree. We really have to avoid any sort of managerial experiments given our current predicament.
     
    Lingard right wingback. Blind left wingback. 3-5-2. Carrick at CB. Memphis back to a central role like he was in the first few games of the season.
     
    -----------De Gea---------------
    McNair---Smalls---Blind------Riley
    ---------Carrick--Pereira---------
    Lingard-------Mata--------Martial
    -----------Keane----------------

    :drool::drool::drool:
    but it will probably be 352..... :(
     
    No wonder Paul Parker wanted Tim Sherwood as manager. Parker could have been in line for a start at right back.
     
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  • 16% Midtjylland 0:2 Man Utd
  • 11% Midtjylland 1:1 Man Utd
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37% 63%
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13 15
Shots on Target
6 3
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2 7
Fouls
8 12

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