FA Premier League

Manchester United 1:2 Swansea City

Old Trafford

Kick-off
Sat, 16 August 2014 @ 12:45pm BST
Status

Closed

Discussion Live Updates 60 Your Lineup Prediction

  • Status
    Not open for further replies.
    It's becoming more and more clear as to why we would sell Hernandez.


    He is an out and out up top goalscorer, other than that he tends to break up the play too much and his passing ability along the ground is almost non existent. I'd love to see Januzaj start the game as Rooneys strike partner if Welbeck is injured.

    I love Hernandez but I just don't see him playing for the team and it's nothing to do with his attitude, it's just his attributes. Ironically he would be perfect for a team like Juve. Get it done!
     
    Swap RVP in for Januzaj and you have it.

    (I can't believe RVP is not fit enough for at least 60 mins).
     
    If both Rafael and Valencia are injured, who will play RWB? Given that Shaw is also injured, meaning Ashley Young may have to play at LWB. We need to finalise the signing of Rojo ASAP!
     
    Early predicted lineup:

    De Gea

    Jones, Smalling, Blackett

    Young, Fletcher, Herrera, Shaw
    Mata

    Welbeck, Rooney
    Bench: Amos, Valencia, Cleverley, Fellaini, Kagawa, Januzaj, Van Persie

    That's how I see us lining up too. Assuming Evans won't be fit anyway.
     
    I expect another 4-1 opening to the season against Swansea. But without the rest of the season that followed it :rolleyes:
     
    I'm on the coast, friend having a wedding that day. It is at 6 pm but as I'll be on an island, in a peaceful little town dont know where or how I'll catch the game. Maybe I'll need to stick to BBC text coverage or sthing. Even if I find some coverage which I doubt dont know how will I watch it while preparing for a wedding.

    I think our players will be out for it, our win 3:1.
     
    Think i'd go with:

    de Gea

    Jones Smalling Blackett
    Young-----------------------Shaw
    Herrera Fellaini
    Mata

    Rooney Januzaj

    Subs: Lindegaard, Young, Rvp, Welbeck, James, Fletcher, Kagawa
    Think after Fellaini's performance last night we should give him a go while his confidence is slightly higher. You never know, under LVG he might become the BWM that we need to partner Herrera.

    *Would like to see both Powell and Wilson get chances in the coming games, too.
     
    De Gea

    Jones Smalling Blackett

    Young Herrera Fletcher Shaw
    Mata

    Rooney Welbeck​
     
    If both Rafael and Valencia are injured, who will play RWB? Given that Shaw is also injured, meaning Ashley Young may have to play at LWB. We need to finalise the signing of Rojo ASAP!

    I guess James would play LWB so Younginho would carry on playing on the right.
     
    If both Rafael and Valencia are injured, who will play RWB? Given that Shaw is also injured, meaning Ashley Young may have to play at LWB. We need to finalise the signing of Rojo ASAP!

    Think LVG's pecking order for the wingback positions are pretty clear.It will be James as LWB,Young RWB with Lingard on the bench to cover.

    Rojo will play more of a LCB (if we do sign).Not really have watched him much but from what I heard he's not that really suited to be wingback.
     
    De Gea
    Jones - Smalling - Evans*
    Young - Fletcher - Herrera - Shaw*
    Mata
    Rooney - Januzaj

    2-0 United.

    * assuming both are fit to start

    Providing Welbeck's not available yet, you've nailed it. If Danny is fit, he should start and Januzaj come on during the second half.
     
    Ddg
    Jones smalling Evans
    Young fletcher Herrera hames
    Mata
    Hernandez rooney
     
    Last edited:
    XI:

    de Gea
    Jones Smalling Blackett
    Young Fletcher Herrera James
    Mata
    Januzaj Rooney

    Subs: Lindegaard, M. Keane, Cleverley, Fellaini, Lingard, Kagawa, Hernandez
    I think last nights performance from Hernandez to mean an omission from the starting eleven. He simply doesn't offer enough to a possession-orientated game and his link-up play, hold-up play and passing is non-existent. Januzaj might not be in prime condition, but I expect him to be a surprise inclusion after an impressive cameo.

    I don't think we should desperately to bring back van Persie, or other players who have suffered recent injuries like Welbeck and Valencia. It looks like an injury-crisis is looming so if there is a possibility for Welbeck or Valencia to aggravate their injuries then simply leave them out of the match-day squad.

    I think it will be quite close - even though I don't have the faintest idea how Swansea's pre-season has gone. I'll go for a tight 2-1 or possibly 1-1.
     
    De Gea
    Jones Smalling Evans
    Valencia -------------------- Young
    Fletcher Herrera
    Mata
    Rooney Hernandez
    ______________________________________________

    Would prefer Januzaj to Hernandez but I think his fitness is slightly off and he'll be a good option from the bench. We haven't really got many options at the moment, it hits home how weak our squad feels when guessing the first XI.

    We really need 3 more players minimum.

    Anyways, 2-0 win. Rooney x2.
     
    We need to start well unfortunately we have holes we haven't filled and injury crisis not looking good as a start.
     
    Think LVG's pecking order for the wingback positions are pretty clear.It will be James as LWB,Young RWB with Lingard on the bench to cover.

    Rojo will play more of a LCB (if we do sign).Not really have watched him much but from what I heard he's not that really suited to be wingback.

    True, but if we play Rojo at LCB, then Jones or Smalling (probably Jones) is free to cover for RWB. Though you are right, we will probably play James.
     
    De Gea
    Jones Smalling Evans
    Valencia -------------------- Young
    Fletcher Herrera
    Mata
    Rooney Hernandez
    ______________________________________________

    Would prefer Januzaj to Hernandez but I think his fitness is slightly off and he'll be a good option from the bench. We haven't really got many options at the moment, it hits home how weak our squad feels when guessing the first XI.

    We really need 3 more players minimum.

    Anyways, 2-0 win. Rooney x2.

    Much prefer Young at LWB, on the tour he was pretty fantastic out there, RWB, not so much, in fact, he's looked poor. Gutted about Shaw, but no point dwelling, this right here, would be my starting eleven.
     
    Starting XI:

    De Gea

    Jones
    Smalling
    Blackett

    Young
    Fletcher
    Herrera
    James
    Mata

    Welbeck
    Rooney

    Subs:
    Lindegaard, M. Keane, Cleverley, Januzaj, Kagawa, Fellaini, Hernandez
     
    Fabianski
    Rangel Amat Williams Taylor
    Shelvey Ki
    Dyer Sigurdsson Routledge
    Bony​

    Should be Swansea's team. They've definitely improved this season, they lost Michu, Vorm and Davies but they've done well to replace with them either with signings or players already at the club. Gomis, Fabianski, Emnes & Sigurdsson is a MASSIVE improvement from last season for a club of their stature.

    Sigurdsson, Ki and the unfairly hated Shelvey has the potential to be one of the better midfields in the PL providing they fulfill their potential while Bony will be expecting to improve on his 16 goals last season. For me, Fabianski is a huge upgrade on Vorm while their defense is pretty much the same as last seasons.
     
    These teams don't inspire much confidence... should squeeze past Swansea, but you never know. Bony might cause some problems.

    Good test for the back 3, especially with Dyer and Sig coming from deeper positions.
     
    Our defence is a serious concern for this one. Especially with them having 2 physial forwards in Bony and Gomis. Hopefully Evans recovers if not Blackett will have to come in. Have we heard anything more about Rafael? I know he is made of glass and left the tour early but i never heard a timeframe on his return. Anyway hopefully we can outscore them with the likes of Rooney, Mata etc. As i cant see us keeping a clean sheet.

    Starting XI

    De Gea

    Young
    Blackett
    Smalling
    Jones
    James

    Herrera
    Flecther

    Mata

    Rooney
    Welbeck
     
    Revised Predicted lineup:

    1. De Gea

    4. Jones 12. Smalling 42. Blackett

    25. Valencia 24. Fletcher 21. Herrera 18. Young
    8. Mata

    19. Welbeck 10. Rooney


    _________________________________________________

    Bench:
    40. Amos, 6. Evans, 41. James, 23. Cleverley, 31. Fellaini, 26. Kagawa, 11. Januzaj, 20. Van Persie


    Okay, so it was just an excuse to use the new numbers :D
     
    Fabianski
    Rangel Amat Williams Taylor
    Shelvey Ki
    Dyer Sigurdsson Routledge
    Bony​

    Should be Swansea's team. They've definitely improved this season, they lost Michu, Vorm and Davies but they've done well to replace with them either with signings or players already at the club. Gomis, Fabianski, Emnes & Sigurdsson is a MASSIVE improvement from last season for a club of their stature.

    Sigurdsson, Ki and the unfairly hated Shelvey has the potential to be one of the better midfields in the PL providing they fulfill their potential while Bony will be expecting to improve on his 16 goals last season. For me, Fabianski is a huge upgrade on Vorm while their defense is pretty much the same as last seasons.
    Sigurdsson is better than Michu

    Vorm is better than Fabianski, Emnes is a Championship player and Davies is a massive loss
     
    with the current injuries to the squad... i actually think we should play 433..lvg had us play 532 in nothing friendly matches so we could get as used to the system as possible. welbeck out ... rvp unfit... and cheech not really being effective as a starter in this system... i think we should play with one striker and use a 433 formation.


    ..................DDG.......................
    .jones smalling evans/blackett james
    ................fletcher......................
    ..............mata herrera.................
    ..... adnan... rooney..... young.......

    doubt it will happen... but makes no sense playing 352 to accommodate mata rooney and cheech. cheech is bettre as an impact sub in my opinion.
     
    Sigurdsson is better than Michu

    Vorm is better than Fabianski, Emnes is a Championship player and Davies is a massive loss
    Fabianski is definitely better than Vorm and was easily Arsenal's best player in their FA Cup run. Never been a fan of Vorm, he's bang average.

    Davies isn't a MASSIVE loss. He's barely better than Taylor who was their starter under Rodgers and was unlucky to lose his place.

    Agreed with you on Emnes. He won't play much, just felt like mentioning him.
     
    Hey Lou, Louis Van Gaal
    Take a shit team, and make it beterrr

    Remember, just please don't play Cleverley
    Then you will see
    Some fluid Football

    Hey Lou, Louis Van Gaal
    You were brought to, win us the title
    You're a winner, that is just so plain to see
    Please, don't fecking be
    Another Moysie

    And anytime we've a big game
    Hey Lou refrain
    Don't let Marouane, over the white line

    For well you know that he’s a fool,
    A useless tool
    Just like Ashley Young, the past 2 seasonssss

    Na na na na, na na na na

    Hey Lou, Louis Van Gaal
    We have high hopes, now please deliverrrr
    Remember, to always be a fair boss
    Apart from with Smalling
    Please don't let him crosss

    So let it out and let it in
    Van Gaal, begin
    Big Dave is just waiting, for some teamates

    And don't you know that's it's not youu
    Who plays it cool
    When people are asking, stupid questionsss

    Na na na na, na na na na
     
    Fabianski
    Rangel Amat Williams Taylor
    Shelvey Ki
    Dyer Sigurdsson Routledge
    Bony​

    Should be Swansea's team. They've definitely improved this season, they lost Michu, Vorm and Davies but they've done well to replace with them either with signings or players already at the club. Gomis, Fabianski, Emnes & Sigurdsson is a MASSIVE improvement from last season for a club of their stature.

    Sigurdsson, Ki and the unfairly hated Shelvey has the potential to be one of the better midfields in the PL providing they fulfill their potential while Bony will be expecting to improve on his 16 goals last season. For me, Fabianski is a huge upgrade on Vorm while their defense is pretty much the same as last seasons.

    Think Bartley will play instead of Amat.
     
    Really hope that Evans, Valencia and Welbeck are fit for this one. If not, then I hope the two young lads prove they're up to it.

    But to be in this position going into the new season is disappointing. We've a fair few midfielders and attackers (which of those are still useful is another debate, as we've seen from the amount of players we're prepared to let go) but when we lose four defenders in one window and only bring one in, we're asking for trouble. It was bloody obvious we might get injuries that leave us short at the back and defensive reinforcements should have been signed weeks ago.

    I just hope that doesn't come back to bite us on Saturday. I don't think it'll be as easy a game as people imagine.
     
    Can't wait for kickoff. Glad we are the early kickoff so I don't have to wait a moment more to see us play.

    Am optimistic about the season. Barring injuries and due to less matches I think we can compete near the top. Getting in top 4 is a priority, challenging would be a huge bonus.

    Come on United!!! Let the singing begin!
     
    Not a great start if RVP, Januzaj, Valencia, Evans, Shaw, Welbeck, Carrick, Rafael are unavailable and Lindegaard is off. LVG's management abilities will be tested over the next couple of weeks. On the bright side, a win puts us top.
     
    We need a strong start to settle into the game, considering how young our defenders will be. Fletcher&Herrera better be up for this one.
    I expect a boring first half and then one, maybe two goals in second.
     
    HT: 0-2 ....second half 4-3-3, final score 3-2

    ---------------De Gea--------------

    Jones-----Smalling---Blackett----Shaw

    -----------Fletcher---Herrera---------

    -----------------Mata----------------

    Januzaj---------Rooney----------Young
     
    I expect the same team as the other day. Not sure on Hernandez but the rest picks itself.

    RVP and Januzaj on the bench incase we need them.
     
    De Gea; Jones--Smalling--Blackett; Valencia--Fletcher--Herrera--Young; Mata; Rooney--Welbeck/Hernandez

    If Valencia isn't fit then start Young RB + James LB. If Evans is fit start him ahead of Blackett.
     
    Assuming the currently injured players remain injured I'm hoping for...​

    De Gea
    Smalling Jones Blackett
    Young Fletcher Herrera James
    Mata
    Rooney Januzaj​

    Pretty much picks itself, Januzaj ahead of Hernández because Adnan looks like he fits the style of play perfectly. Hoping for a win, but I think it'll be close - 2-1 probably - we haven't been entirely convincing in any game since Galaxy, we're still getting to grips with the new system and we already have what looks like the beginning of an injury crisis on our hands.
     
    Status
    Not open for further replies.
Post-match discussion

Player Ratings

5.1 Total Average Rating

Highest Rated Player

Lowest Rated Player

Compiled from 458 ratings.

Score Predictions

710,6,26
  • Man Utd win
  • Swansea win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 27% Man Utd 3:0 Swansea
  • 23% Man Utd 2:0 Swansea
  • 18% Man Utd 3:1 Swansea
  • 10% Man Utd 2:1 Swansea
  • 8% Man Utd 4:0 Swansea
  • 4% Man Utd 4:1 Swansea
  • 2% Man Utd 5:0 Swansea
  • 2% Man Utd 1:0 Swansea
  • 1% Man Utd 0:0 Swansea
  • 1% Man Utd 1:1 Swansea
  • 1% Man Utd 3:2 Swansea
  • 0% Man Utd 2:2 Swansea
  • 0% Man Utd 0:5 Swansea
  • 0% Man Utd 5:1 Swansea
  • 0% Man Utd 5:3 Swansea
  • 0% Man Utd 4:2 Swansea
  • 0% Man Utd 1:2 Swansea
  • 0% Man Utd 5:2 Swansea
  • 0% Man Utd 0:1 Swansea
  • 0% Man Utd 3:3 Swansea
Compiled from 742 predictions.
Show more results Score Predictions League Table

Match Stats

  1. Man Utd
  2. Swansea
Possession
60% 40%
Shots
14 5
Shots on Target
5 4
Corners
4 0
Fouls
14 20

Referee

Mike Dean