Manchester United 0:0 Real Sociedad

Globule · Feb 25, 2021

diarm said:
He hasn't led with his knee. He's jumped trying to head the ball and because the defender hasn't made an effort to compete for the ball, he's taken the knee/thigh to the head.

If anything, it was a foul by the defender because he's made no attempt for the ball and completely taken out the attacker.

You either outlaw jumping for the ball or you let that goal stand. You can't just start penalising fellas for jumping too high.

It's still dangerous and he's not in full control once he's in the air.
The logic you're using to defend it could just add easily be used to defend reckless leg-breaking challenges.

Glorio · Feb 25, 2021

Ranchero said:
Come on Amad and Shoretire... let's see some magic.

They need the ball!

Tony247 · Feb 25, 2021

arnie_ni said:
We've hardly strung 2 passes together this half

Bodies without soul

Ranchero · Feb 25, 2021

Compton22 said:
With Martial's form, no, i don't love to see it

Agreed. If he takes the advice he will skulk around and become anonymous.

Dobba · Feb 25, 2021

RedDevil@84 said:
Just standing won't win you freekicks. But an attacker running in and then kneeing their face will get them freekicks,

It's won Harry Kane a few, in fairness.

Ranchero · Feb 25, 2021

Glorio said:
They need the ball!

Oh. So they do. haha.

Walters_19_MuFc · Feb 25, 2021

Been impressed with Tuanzebe in midfield.

big rons sovereign · Feb 25, 2021

RedDevil@84 said:
Just standing won't win you freekicks. But an attacker running in and then kneeing their face will get them freekicks,

Tbf they've not had to do anything for free kicks all night other than ask for them.

SirAnderson · Feb 25, 2021

diarm said:
You're all advocating for defenders to be allowed to stand underneath attackers when they jump for the ball in order to win free kicks and I'm the crazy one.

I want my defender to stand when he knows there is no way on earth he is getting to the ball...and then try get into position to defend the second ball, which he tried to do...but ended up straight into Lindelof's knee.
Feck sake. :lol:

Deery · Feb 25, 2021

SirAnderson said:
"Love's to wash dishes"
"El Dishwasher"

Any other takers?

WI lynchpin

DWelbz19 · Feb 25, 2021

diarm said:
You're all advocating for defenders to be allowed to stand underneath attackers when they jump for the ball in order to win free kicks and I'm the crazy one.

Such a foolproof plan. Surprised it doesn’t happen every single set piece!

kopviolator · Feb 25, 2021

mu4c_20le said:
Martial giving some tips to young Shola. You love to see it

Prolly telling him to relax, dont sweat it

prateik · Feb 25, 2021

arnie_ni said:
We've hardly strung 2 passes together this half

We took off Bruno and Fred and brought on Rashford and Axel..

We are playing with just Matic as a midfielder.
This has been very very comfortable.. all we wanted by the looks of it

DomesticTadpole · Feb 25, 2021

Deery said:
WI lynchpin

Mrs Overall.

bsCallout · Feb 25, 2021

So tonight we've played -

Henderson
Tuanzabe
Williams
Rashford
Shoretire
Greenwood

All from our academy.

Plus another youngster with Amad.

SirAnderson · Feb 25, 2021

DomesticTadpole said:
Licks the plates clean.

love it!

dannyrhinos89 · Feb 25, 2021

mu4c_20le said:
Martial giving some tips to young Shola. You love to see it

Hey shola don't bother running. If you get a chance take 15 extra touches. Stand in the centre circle 95% of the game and most important look completely disinterested.

Ole will love you for it.

Eire Red United · Feb 25, 2021

mu4c_20le said:
Martial giving some tips to young Shola. You love to see it

Hopefully does the opposite

tomaldinho1 · Feb 25, 2021

bsCallout said:
So tonight we've played -

Henderson
Tuanzabe
Williams
Rashford
Shoretire
Greenwood

All from our academy.

Plus another youngster with Amad.

Plus some of the coaching staff?

Ranchero · Feb 25, 2021

Globule said:
It's still dangerous and he's not in full control once he's in the air.
The logic you're using to defend it could just add easily be used to defend reckless leg-breaking challenges.

Indeed.

Martial'sEmergingSmile · Feb 25, 2021

Rashford's cameo has been almost hilariously bad, to the point that I'm almost certain he's going to score a banger.

Rossa · Feb 25, 2021

King Eric 7 said:
Because we don't need a goal.

Made me chuckle.

Ranchero · Feb 25, 2021

prateik said:
We took off Bruno and Fred and brought on Rashford and Axel..

We are playing with just Matic as a midfielder.
This has been very very comfortable.. all we wanted by the looks of it

A nice wee training session in advance of the Chelsea clash.

Bastian · Feb 25, 2021

tomaldinho1 said:
This Zlatan part makes no sense.

I'm genuinely asking why it should be disallowed IF the player challenging wins the ball completely fairly (i.e doesn't lead with hands or gain extra leverage) and then some part of his body makes contact with the head of a defender who basically has decided not to even challenge. It's actually safer to challenge for the defender.

In this instance I have no problem with the goal being disallowed because Lindelof is nowhere near the ball but it is an interesting question because essentially you are saying any accidental contact whatsoever with the head with any amount of force immediately means it's a foul. Especially interesting as a lot of people called Lindelof soft when the WBA striker grabbed his face deliberately the other week but that was apparently fine.

I wouldn't say any accidental contact with a defender's face constitutes a foul, but a knee from that height yes. I'll concede there could be circumstances where a knee to the face wouldn't be a foul. And that West Brom goal was a foul all day long, while Lindelof is still soft (not there though). Both are can be true at the same time...

prateik · Feb 25, 2021

Amads a bit shit.. Can see why he didn't start.
...........

Manoucha09 · Feb 25, 2021

SirAnderson said:
"Love's to wash dishes"
"El Dishwasher"

Any other takers?

Could easily go for a name change: Random Household Tasks

MrMarcello · Feb 25, 2021

diarm said:
You're all advocating for defenders to be allowed to stand underneath attackers when they jump for the ball in order to win free kicks and I'm the crazy one.

Umm, that player was not standing underneath Lindelof.

You're embarrassing yourself.

Champ · Feb 25, 2021

Globule said:
It's still dangerous and he's not in full control once he's in the air.
The logic you're using to defend it could just add easily be used to defend reckless leg-breaking challenges.

Is anyone in control when they are in the air?
You could use this logic for any header.

The Original · Feb 25, 2021

diarm said:
He hasn't led with his knee. He's jumped trying to head the ball and because the defender hasn't made an effort to compete for the ball, he's taken the knee/thigh to the head.

If anything, it was a foul by the defender because he's made no attempt for the ball and completely taken out the attacker.

You either outlaw jumping for the ball or you let that goal stand. You can't just start penalising fellas for jumping too high.

As I have pointed out in a previous post, this was not the usual situation where two players are jostling for the ball and one rises with the other keeling over. In this case, Lindelof gets a running start before he jumps such that when he did jump, he travelled laterally as well as vertically. That lateral movement is fine unless you are clattering into a player knee first and without even playing the ball. The player he hit was totally unaware of his presence because at the time the ball was played, Lindelof was 3 metres away in the centre of the box just beginning his run.

Ignoring all of that, in football when you knock over your opponent without touching the ball, it is a foul. Basics.

Ranchero · Feb 25, 2021

Martial'sEmergingSmile said:
Rashford's cameo has been almost hilariously bad, to the point that I'm almost certain he's going to score a banger.

Or eat one. Or maybe record one.

Adam-Utd · Feb 25, 2021

Rashford has been so poor :lol:

arnie_ni · Feb 25, 2021

Possibly the worst I've ever seen rashford

Rossa · Feb 25, 2021

They found Amad the smallest adult shirt they could find, and still it's far too big.

TsuWave · Feb 25, 2021

Tom Cato said:
Just very weird to hate on players that keep scoring, but ok, you have you breakfast with cold fishstew. As you were.

There's more to football than scoring. To state I find a player awful is no different than saying I think one is a baller. In James' case, there's more evidence pointing to how much of a bum he is than otherwise. 3 largely inconsequential goals will not sway me. He's not of the required standard in my opinion. The fact that attacking a ball gets him plaudits like "he's becoming a nice little player" here is for me corroboration of how poor he is, but alas. As you were.

Glorio · Feb 25, 2021

Rashford's been awful so far :lol:

always_hoping · Feb 25, 2021

85 minutes played that's the first save Henderson had to make.

Deery · Feb 25, 2021

DomesticTadpole said:
Mrs Overall.

Merry Berry

Withnail · Feb 25, 2021

So is this ref just never giving us another free or what?

Heinzesight · Feb 25, 2021

Rashford. Special kind of shit tonight apart from his free kick. Need him to turn it on for Chelsea.

MetoTTT · Feb 25, 2021

prateik said:
Amads a bit shit.. Can see why he didn't start.
...........

But...but he was "out of this world in training".

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