It would be unbelievabley foolish to give Altay Bayindir his first appearance tonight against a team who know him well so will know all his weaknesses, we should stick with Onana.
Champions League Group A
Manchester United 2:3 Galatasaray
Old Trafford
- Kick-off
- Tue, 3 October 2023 @ 8:00pm BST
- Status
-
Closed
Discussion Your Lineup Prediction
-
- Status
Your efforts in trying to shut down any criticisms or negativity around ETH are applaudable, even if they do seem a bit desperate at times. It's just a shame you nailed your sail to the mast in the same way with Ole - do you not feel a sense of de ja vu?Hope to see this tonight:
Onana
Linda-Varane-Maguire
Dalot-Case-Amrabat-Mount
Bruno
Hojlund-Rashford
Thanks for sharingJust win, can't be dealing with the dippers laughing at us if we join them in the Europa.
2-0, don't care how.I was at Camp Nou when we won the CL in 1999 and never did I Imagine there would come a time, some 24 years later. where we’d be doubting our ability in getting a result in a home game against mid-tier European opposition. We’ve certainly nosedived as a club.Not looking forward to this as usual.19y.o Big Willy Kambwala training with the 1st team yesterday:
Bigger calves than my uncle's and he's a cattle farmer
Evening Standard running that rumoured story that Bayindir will start tonight they are more miss than hit with their info but Old Trafford great for leaks nowadays and not only the roof.
Why didn't he start against Palace in the league cup I'd wonder?I feel like this could be one of those games where unfancied opposition turns up, plays at a higher technical level than expected and pulls off a shock but deserved 1-0 win.
On the other hand, maybe we'll win comfortably. But I'm not feeling too optimistic atm.
Galatasary have pedigree in Europe. This could be a v difficult game considering our current form.
My guess would be that Ten Hag wanted to show some faith in Onana after the Bayern game. Now he's got a few more games under his belt and was solid in those, he could give Bayindir a run out without it seeming like he's kneejerk dropping Onana.
Ha! Yes I do.
True but the poster saying do we really want to play him against a team who know his weaknesses has a very valid pointAltay will play today for serveral reasons but most importantly because he is playing a team from his home country and facing a team that is the biggest rival to the team he has played last 4 years. It would mean the world for him to be able to play this game as his first game and he will be top motivated
That's a fair point.
I see one fan channel is trying to make a meal out of this story for clicks. "Onana dropped for crucial game"
In reality it would be rotation and it's a non knock out group cup game not a crucial game.
Even if we lose, I find it hard to believe we won’t dominate the ball. The problem has been creating high quality chances though.Difficult game tonight, Galatasary will know they have a great chance of getting something out of the game and if we struggle to score the crowd will get very nervy. Big test for Ten Hag.
And finishing the chances we do make.I don't know what line up I want to see, given the state of our defence...but one thing I don't want to see if Bruno, Mount and Rashford in the same line up.
All three, minus a volley against Burnley, have been really disappointing all season.
on contrary i'd actually want to see them all start. this should be final test for them to play in the same line up against decent team at home.
Yeah, I still think they’re all most likely in our best XI when in form. I wouldn’t mind Rashford being dropped for a game or two, see how he deals with it, as he’s not quite right at the moment. We have options as well now so, provided they are doing enough to justify it, I’d think of trying Garnacho or Martial.
Certainly got nothing against Bruno, Mount and Rashford playing together though.
yeah i dont think we spent 55m on Mount to sit on the bench, and we gave him the #7 shirt too
obviously the plan was to play them all together in the starting line up
Maybe earlier on in the season or when you look at individual matches. Post the Spurs match though, our xG and goals scored are almost identical in all comps. The problem in recent weeks is not creating enough. We created roughly four xG against Burnley, Palace and Palace again combined and got four goals. It is very hard to win three matches though whilst only creating four goals worth of chances, even with average finishing.
That needs to be upped massively to consistently win matches. Throughout Ten Hag's reign we have won an unsustainable amount of matches by a single goal. We need to create more and ideally improve our finishing too, as that has been problematic too longer term.2-0 Galatasaray
Yeah, for as long as they’re justifying their place. I honestly don’t think EtH would think twice about leaving any of them out if the likes of Garnacho and Hannibal start putting in complete, highly productive performances (which could happen).yeah i dont think we spent 55m on Mount to sit on the bench, and we gave him the #7 shirt too obviously the plan was to play them all together in the starting line up
edit: just read some posts saying it was a rumor from Eth giving him a start. Man that would be so unbelievably stupid of him. The cup game wouldve been the start for him, not a must win UCL game.3-1 I’m predicting! Need a big performance here. Drop the under performers. Want to see Garnacho and Hannibal start.
He didn't play last midweek.
Yeah that’s fair comment.
In my opinion the finishing or, for want of a better expression, the execution in goal scoring areas (for example sometimes we are shooting when there is an easy pass for a tap in, sometimes we faff about when we should shoot) is more of a problem than the overall build up play (i.e. play that gets us into those goalscoring areas).
I can’t give you stats but, in my view, once you start taking the chances that you make, you start making more chances.
And, again, purely my interpretation of what I’m seeing (and not stats), we have too many players (on current form and ability) who under achieve on the xg and not enough players who over achieve xg.
Bottom line we have to score some bloody goals and then the whole business of creating and scoring will improve. I believe.
Must wins are when you lose or draw any chance of progressing further is officially over.
Hope Grealish doesn't see this picture, it might give him a complex
Think you have to give Mount a chance. He's hardly played, and he has been injured. But Bruno and Rashford, yes, for sure, need something different from them.
Yeah I don't know why people keep lumping Mount in with the rest. Considering he'd only had 45 mins since his injury on Saturday, he was probably our most energetic midfielder. He really wasn't the issue against Palace.
The team is too one dimensional. We have had one excellent threat, but once he has dropped out of form or found some negative variance, the results have dropped off too, because nobody else can offer goals in any sort of volume.
The football under ETH at its most effective was essentially “give it to Bruno who can hopefully find Rashford, who can run and put it in the net.” The load needs to be shared across the front three and the attacking midfielders need to contribute a lot more too. We’ve basically had six league goals from our main centre forwards (Martial, Weg and Højlund), ten from Antony, Sancho and Pellistri on the right, and seven from Bruno since the last of season. Casemiro can not be our second biggest threat from open play.
It’s got to evolve and quickly.
My hunch is that people lumping on Mount really want to lump on EtH.
We probably will. ETH never uses 2nd keepers. Even in the caraboa last season it was always the number 1 keeper starting. Our previous managers use to play 2nd choice keepers.
People have their favourites and they’ll just blame random players even if they did well. Mount was miles better than Bruno and Rashford. Bruno should be dropped tonight going off form and play Mount further forward with Hannibal and Casa behind.- Status
Player Ratings
Total Average Rating
Highest Rated Player
Lowest Rated Player
Compiled from 308 ratings.
Score Predictions
147,37,37
- Man Utd win
- Galatasaray win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 19% Man Utd 2:1 Galatasaray
- 18% Man Utd 2:0 Galatasaray
- 12% Man Utd 1:1 Galatasaray
- 9% Man Utd 3:0 Galatasaray
- 8% Man Utd 1:0 Galatasaray
- 5% Man Utd 1:2 Galatasaray
- 5% Man Utd 3:1 Galatasaray
- 5% Man Utd 0:2 Galatasaray
- 3% Man Utd 0:0 Galatasaray
- 3% Man Utd 0:1 Galatasaray
- 3% Man Utd 4:0 Galatasaray
- 1% Man Utd 0:9 Galatasaray
- 1% Man Utd 2:2 Galatasaray
- 1% Man Utd 1:3 Galatasaray
- 1% Man Utd 4:1 Galatasaray
- 1% Man Utd 2:3 Galatasaray
- 0% Man Utd 5:1 Galatasaray
- 0% Man Utd 6:0 Galatasaray
- 0% Man Utd 6:1 Galatasaray
- 0% Man Utd 3:3 Galatasaray
- 0% Man Utd 9:0 Galatasaray
- 0% Man Utd 0:3 Galatasaray
- 0% Man Utd 4:2 Galatasaray
Match Stats
- Man Utd
- Galatasaray
- Possession
- 55% 45%
- Shots
- 16 15
- Shots on Target
- 5 4
- Corners
- 9 3
- Fouls
- 13 16
Referee
Ivan Kruzliak
Man Utd Lineup
-
-
-
-
-
replaced by Anthony Martial
-
replaced by Antony
-
-
-
replaced by Christian Eriksen
-
-
replaced by Alejandro Garnacho
