Manchester United 1:3 Chelsea

littlepeasoup · Jul 19, 2020

I do think with our changing the system right before the break we'll get more joy in the second half. You could already see Martial moving into pockets of space which is promising but our passing hasn't been great. We just need to wake up a little bit.

Wouldn't be surprised to see another change at half time, Pogba on for Fred, although Greenwood on for James would be a positive switch in my opinion too.

Judas · Jul 19, 2020

our squad is laughably poor beyond the first 11 and the defence is still highly questionable.

gerdm07 · Jul 19, 2020

tombombadil said:
Lindelof and Wan Bissaka positioning totally wrong. Both should have moved forward to maintain the line.

Also Chelsea have been getting away with persistent, Man City level of fouling.

This. We lost our shape for a second and they got behind us.

Havak · Jul 19, 2020

I'd seriously be debating going with Greenwood & Pogba at half time for James and Fred/Matic. Reckon it'll be left 10-15 minute though.

Majima · Jul 19, 2020

Andycoleno9 said:
Lampard's crying about VAR payed off i guess.

He should have been banned. It was a blatant attempt to manipulate the refs. But he's a media darling so its fine apparently.

Sandikan · Jul 19, 2020

Tarrou said:
as shit as we played we were robbed on that pen decision

how do they decide so quickly on that?

Was outside the box for one thing I think.

Superunknown · Jul 19, 2020

Gasolin said:
Now we need to put Pogba and Greenwood and force them to concede fouls after fouls until we get 3 goals. That's the only way as they will try to rough us up.

Pogba and Greenwood will come on, guaranteed. But it now means that all of these players will have played and won't be fully rested for the next game.

If we go on to lose this game and then we don't get the three points on Wednesday, then the criticism will be warranted, imo.

SuperiorXI · Jul 19, 2020

Andycoleno9 said:
Lampard's crying about VAR payed off i guess.

Still another 45 minutes to go. But that wasn't a pen anyway, it was outside the box.

redshaw · Jul 19, 2020

Awful game.

Chelsea so dirty all the way through, I think Harry decided to help Bailly considering how Chelsea have been standing on our players feet, raking studs, and lunging in the air and came together with Bailly.

Looks more like a top 4 insurance game for Chelsea, knock some of our players out for West Ham and Leicester and bonus reach the FA Cup final.

DavidDeSchmikes · Jul 19, 2020

Get Pogba and Greenwood on

Isotope · Jul 19, 2020

Lindelof. My fecking goodness.

sport2793 · Jul 19, 2020

#07 said:
Not been the best half. We changed things and have suffered. I am not happy to be losing but something had to give with all the football. Can't believe VAR never pulled up Zouma for kicking Martial. Shows Lampard's words have influenced the refs.

I think it's because it happened outside the box. VAR is not allowed to intervene if it is a foul outside the box.

OnlyTwoDaSilvas · Jul 19, 2020

hobbers said:
Lindelof has an amazing ability to never be goal side of his man. He's utterly spineless.

It's ridiculous. At amateur level, your coach would be screaming "goalside" every time a ball comes in. An international footballer shouldn't need to be reminded.

dove · Jul 19, 2020

Garethw said:
James should have stayed in the championship. That’s his level.

He was quite shite there too, League 1 is about right.

PaulScholes99 · Jul 19, 2020

I wonder that so many people think the VAR can't do anything about the Martial-Zouma situation. Zouma was the last man, it was a clear foul, so it should be a red card?

Irrational. · Jul 19, 2020

I think Ole saw the Arse result and jumped the gun with the team selection, and got it horribly wrong.

DevilRed · Jul 19, 2020

13 fouls and not a single card.

Bailly goes down injured.

lamptard really is a fecking lucky twat.

limerickcitykid · Jul 19, 2020

RashyForPM said:
How on God’s green Earth is that DDG’s fault? It’s at extremely close proximity to him, and it’s hit at a height where it’s very difficult for any keeper to save. I’ve blamed him for goals against us like Stanislas and Bergwijn’s, but that’s never his fault.

I blame Lindelof and Williams. They switched off, which you just can’t do in a cup semi-final, or any game.

It’s also got some mad spin on it. It spins off his hand down and hits his foot and in. It’s just unfortunate on his part really.

Yagami · Jul 19, 2020

Adisa said:
How long before Ole makes the changes? Hope he doesn't wait.

He already has. We've changed formation with the Martial sub and we're still getting dominated.

Parking the bus is seemingly all he knows in big games, and it's infuriating.

madzo2007 · Jul 19, 2020

Godfather said:
That why Ole isn't good enough here. He can't provide consistently. We have turned pretty shit the last week.

Unbeaten in 19....but ok...

Some of the posts in this thread

londonredmaniac · Jul 19, 2020

Piss off

mitchmouse · Jul 19, 2020

people claiming DDG can't be blamed.... check out some of Pope's saves this season. david reacted slowly

Nori- · Jul 19, 2020

I wouldn't even wait until 60-70mins to make the subs. That was an awful half. Make the changes now

Pogba + Greenwood on.
Fred + James off.

DannyDash · Jul 19, 2020

Pogba and Greenwood need to get on, Chelsea with all their 1st teamers will get tired 2nd half

Knux · Jul 19, 2020

joedirt87 said:
we need a lot more then one. Smalling is going to be gone, Rojo going to be gone, and the 3 we have for "depth" couldn't stay healthy for 90 minutes even if you subbed one out every 30 minutes.

Actually I think its time to ship out all of the CBs except for maguire and lindelöf.
Rojo, Smalling, Jones and Bailly. Good riddance. They cant even stay injuryfree for one match

SirAnderson · Jul 19, 2020

glazed said:
No this game doesn't matter. We shouldn't have any key players even on the pitch.

Small minded fans really.
No desire for a trophy.

RedDevilRoshi · Jul 19, 2020

Ole better be ripping right into this lot right now.

Sandikan · Jul 19, 2020

Havak said:
I'd seriously be debating going with Greenwood & Pogba at half time for James and Fred/Matic. Reckon it'll be left 10-15 minute though.

James has been dead weight, but at least saved someone else's legs for 45

But we need to act now.

Both changes you mention, within 10mins.

PoTMS · Jul 19, 2020

That's literally the same foul as the Zaha one. Zouma kicks through Martial's foot.

SAFMUTD · Jul 19, 2020

Adisa said:
How long before Ole makes the changes? Hope he doesn't wait.

60th minute at least, he cant do it before that its the law.

RashyForPM · Jul 19, 2020

Drifter said:
I care. We should try to win any competition we are involved in. Not as if we can afford to be choosy.

Precisely. Shame our lads seem to have the same mentality towards this as a minority of our fanbase. Pissed off with them and Chelsea’s dirty fouling tactics. Something has got to change. Ole has already stuck out a half-arsed team with some stars rested and some not, so just jettison the shite like Fred and Dan for Pogba and Greenwood now. They’ll make a difference.

dev1l · Jul 19, 2020

mu4c_20le said:
Chelsea 12 fouls 0 cards. Remarkable.

Incredible...some of the fouls were late nasty tackles. Not to.mention that on zouma on Martial. That was at least a yellow.

RUCK4444 · Jul 19, 2020

Irwin99 said:
Has there ever been a worse punditry team on the BBC?

Keown is the absolute worst. Every game is like listening to the same single recording of him, saying the basic lines over and over again. Painful, by far my least favourite commentator.

SuperiorXI · Jul 19, 2020

MrSingh2002 said:
Anyone figure out what Oles plan was that first 45 minutes?

Same tactics as the last time we played them

sport2793 · Jul 19, 2020

Godfather said:
That why Ole isn't good enough here. He can't provide consistently. We have turned pretty shit the last week.

Ya because Pep and Klopp's teams are always in sublime form. Idiot.

bosnian_red · Jul 19, 2020

The meltdown in here ffs. fecking calm down people. Was always a tough ask (how often does a team win 4/4 big games against a good team?), but 2nd half will be better IMO. Chelsea have done nothing but foul us but they've also been hungrier than us and looked fresher.

Anyway, 2nd half we'll push up more and it'll be a different game.

Pexbo · Jul 19, 2020

Shearer, Cole and Big Toe. Is this what hell is like?

londonredmaniac · Jul 19, 2020

madzo2007 said:
Unbeaten in 19....but ok...

Some of the posts in this thread

Utter gobshites aint they?

Murder on Zidanes Floor · Jul 19, 2020

BBC claiming it is not a foul.

Rozay · Jul 19, 2020

Tarrou said:
as shit as we played we were robbed on that pen decision

how do they decide so quickly on that?

They decided because the incident was outside the area, hence VAR not involved.

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