FA Cup Semi-Final

Manchester United 1:3 Chelsea

Wembley Stadium

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Sun, 19 July 2020 @ 6:00pm BST
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    Hazard has 7 misses while Balotelli has missed 5 times. Bruno is at 92/.6%, Hazard at 87.5% and Balotelli at 88.3%.
    It is not fair to compare a large sample size with a tiny one.

    If Bruno misses two penalties, for instance, his percentage will come crashing down to 60s or 70s.
    For me, Hazard was the coolest penalty taker in the PL for several years before moving to Spain. And he took so many of them for Chelsea over many seasons. I don't think he's RM's first-choice penalty taker at the moment, though. Ramos seems to take most penalties.

    If Bruno can maintain numbers similar to Hazard's over three or four seasons, it will be amazing.
     
    It is not fair to compare a large sample size with a tiny one.

    If Bruno misses two penalties, for instance, his percentage will come crashing down to 60s or 70s.
    For me, Hazard was the coolest penalty taker in the PL for several years before moving to Spain. And he took so many of them for Chelsea over many seasons. I don't think he's RM's first-choice penalty taker at the moment, though. Ramos seems to take most penalties.

    If Bruno can maintain numbers similar to Hazard's over three or four seasons, it will be amazing.
    Bruno's sample is not that small. He has taken 27 penalties. Of course, the other two have more (Balotelli has 43 while Hazard has 56).

    If Bruno misses the next two penalties, his percentage would be 86%, very close to that of Hazard's career (87.5%). If he misses two out of the next five, it would be exactly the same as Hazard's.

    He needs to miss the next 7 penalties for the percentage to drop in the seventies and the next eleven for it to drop on the sixties.

    My point is, Bruno is a ridiculously good penalty taker.
     
    Bruno's sample is not that small. He has taken 27 penalties. Of course, the other two have more (Balotelli has 43 while Hazard has 56).

    If Bruno misses the next two penalties, his percentage would be 86%, very close to that of Hazard's career (87.5%). If he misses two out of the next five, it would be exactly the same as Hazard's.

    He needs to miss the next 7 penalties for the percentage to drop in the seventies and the next eleven for it to drop on the sixties.

    My point is, Bruno is a ridiculously good penalty taker.
    I thought your post was only regarding what these players did in the Premier League and not in other leagues - thus, my maths!

    Fair point, then.
     
    There's no "last man" rule.

    No but if there's no player between Martial and Caballero it's arguably a goalscoring opportunity. Martial is pretty good at 1v1s. Should have been a red card.
     
    If we already get top 4 why would you prefer Europa over FA Cup
    It is a second rate competition with no history whatsoever

    We were not guaranteed fourth in my opinion until Leicester lost to Spurs 3 nil plus I never thought we would get it from start of the season, so Europa was our way to get CL.

    Plus Ole it seems is less bothered about the FA Cup judging by his line up and tactics.
     
    We were not guaranteed fourth in my opinion until Leicester lost to Spurs 3 nil plus I never thought we would get it from start of the season, so Europa was our way to get CL.

    Plus Ole it seems is less bothered about the FA Cup judging by his line up and tactics.
    We are not guaranteed now!
     
    Not had chance to read through thread, so if these points are mentioned earlier (which I am sure they are) my apologies.

    We had 48 hours less to prepare than Chelsea, yet we make a major change to our system of play and 3 or 4 unforced changes in personnel, in a semi final...really Ole? I know there is the argument for 'freshening up', but how do you 'freshen' your best X1, only by replacing like with like, so, James, Fred and Bailly are as good as Martial, Pogba and Greenwood? This is not freshening up its weakening!

    Leaving aside De Gea's two 'howlers' and Bailly's injury, even up to that point did anyone seriously think we looked liked winners?
    Lampard was before the game warning his team about our fantastic front 3, yet we played only two up front to start with, one a kid who at the moment is woefully out of form!

    When will Ole realize that AWB and Williams are excellent fullbacks but are not wing backs, they don't have the skills or foresight moving forward, don't read the game as wing backs need to do?

    We looked disjointed when we took the field and although we can claim two very unusual mistakes by the keeper and a bad injury made us more disjointed, we never at any point after the kick-off looked like winning that game.

    Chelsea were good, but they had no competition from us! (rant done!)
     
    On current form he is. Equally you can’t say we need to look for a new keeper with no viable transfer target...
    Why not? This is an internet forum, I’m not pitching the idea to the fecking board of directors.

    Ideally, we need a brand new keeper. One who’s vocal, consistent, a great shot stopper and trustworthy. Henderson might be the one but I’ve seen him make similar mistakes to De Gea this season.
     
    Why not? This is an internet forum, I’m not pitching the idea to the fecking board of directors.

    Ideally, we need a brand new keeper. One who’s vocal, consistent, a great shot stopper and trustworthy. Henderson might be the one but I’ve seen him make similar mistakes to De Gea this season.

    I didn’t literally mean you can’t. But who would you propose as a viable alternative? All well and good saying time to look for a keeper, but realistically who do you see as a solution to the problem?

    Give Romero a shot? You’ve discarded Henderson. The likes of Sommer / Ter Stegen aren’t feasible...
     
    I didn’t literally mean you can’t. But who would you propose as a viable alternative? All well and good saying time to look for a keeper, but realistically who do you see as a solution to the problem?

    Give Romero a shot? You’ve discarded Henderson. The likes of Sommer / Ter Stegen aren’t feasible...
    Why's Sommer not feasible? I mean I'd even consider Rui Patricio to be a safe bet, maybe no better than Romero? Perhaps Onana from Ajax for a longer term bet - but we need a class keeper now.

    There's no way we'd make a top keeper signing to be honest, Henderson just signed a new contract. But I just think we should. He's a good keeper, but is he actually better than De Gea right now? Don't think so.
     
    Just saw the stats, Chelsea didn't get a single yellow? The way they were hacking us the whole game, I found it unbelievable. I suppose the narrative set before the game by media darling Lampard worked its magic.
     
    Why's Sommer not feasible? I mean I'd even consider Rui Patricio to be a safe bet, maybe no better than Romero? Perhaps Onana from Ajax for a longer term bet - but we need a class keeper now.

    There's no way we'd make a top keeper signing to be honest, Henderson just signed a new contract. But I just think we should. He's a good keeper, but is he actually better than De Gea right now? Don't think so.

    Would have thought Sommer too old at 31. Still I’d have probably said the same when we signed VDS
     
    Not had chance to read through thread, so if these points are mentioned earlier (which I am sure they are) my apologies.

    We had 48 hours less to prepare than Chelsea, yet we make a major change to our system of play and 3 or 4 unforced changes in personnel, in a semi final...really Ole? I know there is the argument for 'freshening up', but how do you 'freshen' your best X1, only by replacing like with like, so, James, Fred and Bailly are as good as Martial, Pogba and Greenwood? This is not freshening up its weakening!

    Leaving aside De Gea's two 'howlers' and Bailly's injury, even up to that point did anyone seriously think we looked liked winners?
    Lampard was before the game warning his team about our fantastic front 3, yet we played only two up front to start with, one a kid who at the moment is woefully out of form!

    When will Ole realize that AWB and Williams are excellent fullbacks but are not wing backs, they don't have the skills or foresight moving forward, don't read the game as wing backs need to do?

    We looked disjointed when we took the field and although we can claim two very unusual mistakes by the keeper and a bad injury made us more disjointed, we never at any point after the kick-off looked like winning that game.

    Chelsea were good, but they had no competition from us! (rant done!)

    A point I made above, the team we put out yesterday was near identical to the one that we put out against Chelsea in the league where we won 2-0, in the same formation. So there is some rationale there with his team choice, even if it didn’t work.
     
    I really don't understand anyone criticising Ole for the defeat. We had two days rest, in the middle of a hectic schedule. Our squad players are pretty shite (not his fault), I'm really not surprised or despondent about this result. The strains on the team have been huge. Loads of reasons to be positive. Let's just focus on winning our last two games.
     
    Would have thought Sommer too old at 31. Still I’d have probably said the same when we signed VDS
    That's not old for a keeper. In fact it'd be ideal - an experienced keeper with safe hands that could be replaced by Henderson in a couple years. Henderson needs another year at SUFC perhaps.
     
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Score Predictions

142,44,20
  • Man Utd win
  • Chelsea win
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Detailed Results

  • 40% Man Utd 2:1 Chelsea
  • 14% Man Utd 1:2 Chelsea
  • 9% Man Utd 2:0 Chelsea
  • 8% Man Utd 1:0 Chelsea
  • 7% Man Utd 1:1 Chelsea
  • 6% Man Utd 3:1 Chelsea
  • 3% Man Utd 3:2 Chelsea
  • 3% Man Utd 0:2 Chelsea
  • 3% Man Utd 2:2 Chelsea
  • 2% Man Utd 1:3 Chelsea
  • 1% Man Utd 0:5 Chelsea
  • 1% Man Utd 4:0 Chelsea
  • 1% Man Utd 3:0 Chelsea
  • 0% Man Utd 0:1 Chelsea
  • 0% Man Utd 0:3 Chelsea
  • 0% Man Utd 5:0 Chelsea
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Match Stats

  1. Man Utd
  2. Chelsea
Possession
51% 49%
Shots
7 13
Shots on Target
3 7
Corners
3 3
Fouls
9 21

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Mike Dean