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Manchester City 1:0 Manchester United

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    The derby is a horrible game these days. They just always seem way more up for it than we are. Kompany has many off-days and injuries, but we never catch him on one of them. He always has a stormer against us.

    Agree with this, Kompany is always class against us. None of our strikers ever seem to give him a tough time. Toure and Aguero too. Its time for our lads to show the same passion and desire in a derby that City have in the last few years.
     
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    I think we will lineup like this:

    ------------RvP----------------
    -Di Maria---Rooney-----Januzaj
    --------Blind-----Fellaini--------
    -Shaw--Rojo---Smalling---Rafael-
    -----------De Gea-----

    or alternatively:


    --------------RvP----------
    --Rooney-------------Di Maria----
    -------Fellaini-----Herrera----
    --------------Blind-----------
    -Shaw----Rojo----Smalling----Rafael
    ------------De Gea-------------
     
    Agree with this, Kompany is always class against us. None of our strikers ever seem to give him a tough time. Toure and Aguero too. Its time for our lads to show the same passion and desire in a derby that City have in the last few years.

    This is unacceptable on our part considering we consistently have more English/Manchester born players in our team/squad than they do.
     
    I don't think there's been a lack of passion. More a lack of quality (especially in midfield)
     
    Go back to the diamond for this game I think

    De gea

    Rafa
    Rojo
    Smalling/jones
    Shaw

    Blind

    Herrera
    Fellaini
    Di Maria

    Rooney
    Falcao/RVP
     
    ------------Blind------------
    ---Herrera-Fellaini-Di Maria---
    -----------Rooney------------
    -----------RvP/Falcao--------

    3 players with great engines in midfield there, would work well I think.
     
    After today's game I'm feeling a lot more confident.

    At least we wont see posts - we'll get destroyed, and we'll loose 0-8.

    Anyway dont have the slightets idea how will we play and with which players.

    Defense will probably be the same unless someone gets injured.

    As for midfield. Blind will surely start but with who.
    Fellaini deserves a start after today's performance. Carrick is fit so maybe he'll start. Then there's Herrera who should start too.
    Rooney is back and will probably play as a nr. 10 or maybe as a striker.

    Probably Blind with Fellaini or Carrick behind Rooney as nr. 10 and Adnan and Di Maria on the wings. Falcao should start in the attack.

    Personally I'd go with Blind and Fellaini behind Herrera as a nr. 10 and Rooney as a lone striker but doubt LVG would go with sthing like that.
     
    After today's game I'm feeling a lot more confident.

    At least we wont see posts - we'll get destroyed, and we'll loose 0-8.

    Anyway dont have the slightets idea how will we play and with which players.

    Defense will probably be the same unless someone gets injured.

    As for midfield. Blind will surely start but with who.
    Fellaini deserves a start after today's performance. Carrick is fit so maybe he'll start. Then there's Herrera who should start too.
    Rooney is back and will probably play as a nr. 10 or maybe as a striker.

    Probably Blind with Fellaini or Carrick behind Rooney as nr. 10 and Adnan and Di Maria on the wings. Falcao should start in the attack.

    Personally I'd go with Blind and Fellaini behind Herrera as a nr. 10 and Rooney as a lone striker but doubt LVG would go with sthing like that.

    I think Di Maria would be better as CM. The last two games as a winger Di Maria hadn't impress. Agree that Fellaini deserves to start. Maybe a diamond of Blind, Fellaini, Di Maria and Herrera (If he's fit) with Rooney and Falcao/RVP up front.
     
    I think Di Maria would be better as CM. The last two games as a winger Di Maria hadn't impress. Agree that Fellaini deserves to start. Maybe a diamond of Blind, Fellaini, Di Maria and Herrera (If he's fit) with Rooney and Falcao/RVP up front.

    Di Maria looks better as CM right, but I think 4-3-1-2 against City would be a bit risky.
     
    A sent-off against West Ham (Two yellows) would mean they would have just missed the COC match against Newcastle on Wednesday.........or have you seen a red card challenge in the West Ham match??

    Aguero made a terrible tackle on Noble on Saturday that could have easily been a straight red card.
     


    Not the first time Aguero escapes punishment after a shock tackle. By the position of the ref I think it's fair to assume there won't be taken any retrospective action against him this time either.
     
    Same team, except Rooney for Mata and Herrera for someone in midfield.
     
    Think we can nick something so long as we don't try and mark Toure with a dwarf.
     
    Not sure about the diamond. I think we'll be very vulnerable playing that way against City. Their fullbacks will have a field day but at the same time it allows us to fit in our better players. A dilemma for Van Gaal.

    De Gea
    Rafael--Smalling--Rojo--Shaw
    Blind
    Fellaini--Di Maria
    Herrera
    Rooney--van Persie

    or

    De Gea
    Rafael--Smalling--Rojo--Shaw
    Fellaini--Blind
    Januzaj--Rooney--Di Maria
    van Persie

     
    After today's game I'm feeling a lot more confident.

    At least we wont see posts - we'll get destroyed, and we'll loose 0-8.

    Anyway dont have the slightets idea how will we play and with which players.

    Defense will probably be the same unless someone gets injured.

    As for midfield. Blind will surely start but with who.
    Fellaini deserves a start after today's performance. Carrick is fit so maybe he'll start. Then there's Herrera who should start too.
    Rooney is back and will probably play as a nr. 10 or maybe as a striker.

    Probably Blind with Fellaini or Carrick behind Rooney as nr. 10 and Adnan and Di Maria on the wings. Falcao should start in the attack.

    Personally I'd go with Blind and Fellaini behind Herrera as a nr. 10 and Rooney as a lone striker but doubt LVG would go with sthing like that.

    No way, I would start Carrick in a derby after three months out. That would be like Fergie bringing back Park in the derby game a few years ago.
     
    We can win this game if Aguero picks up an injury mid week.. Otherwise its gonna be a tough day for Rojo..

    Falcao Rooney and Herrera on for RvP Mata and Januzaj
     
    Would it be madness to leave ADM on the bench for this one and bring him on as an impact sub? Thought he was poor vs Chelsea and he's not had much of a break since his long haul international commitments.

    DDG

    Rafa, Smalling, Rojo, Shaw

    Blind, Herrera, Fellaini

    Rooney, RVP, Falcao

    ADM to come on if we're chasing the game and Carrick if we need to consolidate.
     
    since two years now after every improvement follows a setback, so we have nothing so expect from the game. I won' give up hope nonetheless.

    I'd also go for a 3 man midfield of Blind, Fella and Herrera. with Rooney and di Maria behind Falcao in a 4-3-2-1
     
    DDG

    Rafa - Smalling - Rojo - Shaw

    Blind
    Herrera - Di Maria
    Fellaini
    Rooney
    RVP

    We all know Van Persie will start ahead of Falcao. But to be honest, having Falcao (and Januzaj) as subs is not bad if we need a goal.
     
    ---------------DDG----------------
    Rafael----Smalling---Rojo------Shaw
    ---------------Blind----------------
    ---------Herrera----Di Maria--------
    --------------Fellaini---------------
    ---------Rooney----Falcao---------
     
    Everyone who played against Chelsea did themselves a favour and I don't see much reason to drop anyone. The only player who could come in is Wayne Rooney IMO. However, do we drop Mata or van Persie to accommodate him? Not sure, although Januzaj could be the one sacrificed if we play with a bit less width than we did against Chelsea for most of the game.

    de Gea
    Rafael Smalling Rojo Shaw
    Blind
    Fellaini Di Maria
    Mata
    van Persie Rooney​
     
    Dave
    Rafael - Smalling - Rojo - Shaw
    Blind Fellaini
    Januzaj Rooney AdM
    van Persie​
     
    Hyped for this match now. Lets go at them from the beggining. I think we will draw, but i still have a positive feeling as i think we have that little "extra" we missed for some time now to nick it if its even. Not meaning i am sure we will, but still a bigger hope than before.

    Hopa we go with :
    ---------------De Gea------------
    Rafael--Smalling--Rojo--Shaw
    ------------Blind-----------------
    ------Herrera--Fellaini---------
    Januzaj----------------Di Maria
    ------------Rooney--------------
     
    Hyped for this match now. Lets go at them from the beggining. I think we will draw, but i still have a positive feeling as i think we have that little "extra" we missed for some time now to nick it if its even. Not meaning i am sure we will, but still a bigger hope than before.

    Hopa we go with :
    ---------------De Gea------------
    Rafael--Smalling--Rojo--Shaw
    ------------Blind-----------------
    ------Herrera--Fellaini---------
    Januzaj----------------Di Maria
    ------------Rooney--------------


    Almost what I would like to see but I would keep RVP in as i thought he played well and sacrifice Januzaj:

    ---------------De Gea------------
    Rafael--Smalling--Rojo--Shaw
    ------------Blind-----------------
    ------Herrera--Fellaini---------
    Rooney----------------Di Maria
    ------------RVP--------------
     
    I hope we break away from what has been the theme since Fergie left; which is one step forward, two steps backward. It would be disappointing if it proves that we were merely "game-raising cnuts" last night.

    8-10 points would have been a good return from the 5 games starting with West Brom. We have two in the bag and need to score 6-8 more in the next three. Tough task, but we need to do it to stay in the hunt for a top 4 finish.

    I would go with the 4231/433 again.

    De Gea
    Rafael Smalling Rojo Shaw
    Blind Fellaini
    Januzaj Herrera/Rooney di Maria
    Van Persie
    Herrera or Rooney depending upon who is fitter for the game. A win against them could harbinger something special.

    City 3 - United 1.
     
    Surprised at the amount of people putting di Maria on the left. He's played there in his last two games and his performance has suffered as a result. I want to see us revert back to the diamond, where he can be deployed in his most deadly position.

    de Gea
    Rafael - Smalling - Rojo - Shaw
    Fellaini - Blind - di Maria
    Herrera
    van Persie - Rooney (c)

    Subs: Lindegaard, Blackett, Carrick, Valencia, Januzaj, Mata, Falcao
    The defence really picks itself. We need a settled back four and Smalling came in and performed very well against Chelsea. Striking up some continuity at the back as well as an understanding between two centre backs who compliment each other like Smalling and Rojo is crucial. Additionally, I think Smalling can handle Aguero far better than any of our other centre backs given how impressive he is 1v1.

    I think we will need a lot of numbers in midfield and to congest central areas, so that's why Herrera should come in. City are at their most optimal when controlling matches in the middle of the park and hopefully overloading that area can lessen of nullify Silva's impact. We shouldn't get too exposed on the flanks, due to di Maria supporting Shaw at times (although he hasn't actually been that good in that regard) and Herrera doing the same on the opposite side.

    Upfront, I'm not a fan of the Rooney-RVP strike partnership like most, but RVP did score an important goal which could do wonders for his form and confidence and generally showed glimpses of his old self and Rooney's absence has been felt, not only from an offensive point of view, but defensive also. A huge player for us who could determine whether we get three points or not.

    The bench actually looks quite strong, much to my surprise. Plenty of options who can have impact and alternative styles of play. Plus, we have good defensive options if we are in a winning position.

    I'm reasonably positive, but I could also see City giving us a reality check. I'll go 2-1 City, as they always raise their game vs us and I doubt they'll lose two in a row.
     
    I think LVG will see how West Ham played against them on saturday using the diamond and revert back to that with Rooney and Falcao coming in for Mata and Adnan. I would like to see Di Maria exploit the space inbetween clichy and mangala which Big sam mentioned was a big weakness of city's. Hopefully Fellaini can give Toure a hard time and not let him have it all his own way.
     
    ----------RvP------------
    -Di Maria----------Rooney
    ---------Herrera----------
    ------Fellaini----Blind-----
    shaw--rojo---smalling--rafael
    --------ddg-------------------


    Herrera to mark David Silva man-to-man.
    Any reason you're belittling our defenders like that, with your "small" letters? ;) *joking*

    --------------------DDG
    -Rafael----Smalling---Jones----Shaw
    -----------------Blind
    --------Herrera-------AdM
    --------------*Fellaini
    -----------RvP--------**Rooney

    *Fellaini will play deeper then a "10" - more box to box
    ** Rooney will have licence to drift/roam
    I'd love Falcao to be given a start but I can't see either of RvP/Rooney dropped and IMO, we need an extra body in midfield against City.
     
    I'm confident we can get a result, the defence needs to keep up their concentration for the entire game, can’t have any Rojo brain farts. We need to contain Silva and Aguero, not an easy job so will need some luck with that (i.e hope they have an off-ish day) and Fellaini will need to man mark Toure.

    Upfront, really need Di Maria firing on all cylinders and will be happy to see Rooney back for mata.
     
    --------------------DDG
    -Rafael----Smalling---Jones----Shaw
    -----------------Blind
    --------Herrera-------AdM
    --------------*Fellaini
    -----------RvP--------**Rooney

    *Fellaini will play deeper then a "10" - more box to box
    ** Rooney will have licence to drift/roam
    I'd love Falcao to be given a start but I can't see either of RvP/Rooney dropped and IMO, we need an extra body in midfield against City.

    This is quite clearly the front six needed, I'll be surprised if many think otherwise, apart from maybe preferring Falcao to one of Rooney/RVP. With Blind on Silva and Fellaini on Toure, I think we can match them quite well in midfield unlike most of our previous encounters.
     
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