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Liverpool 0:1 Manchester United

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    Pexbo said:
    I hope the Newcastle game was a proper eye opener for him regarding Fellaini. We cannot have him starting against Liverpool.
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    He still (somehow) lasted the full 90 minutes, I can't see him missing out on this unfortunately.
     
    SteveJ said:
    When asked whether Sturridge would be fit to face United at the weekend, Klopp simply replied: “No.” When asked whether he had any idea of a potential return date, Klopp again replied: “No.
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    In fairness Sturridge is a great player, but his body cannot handle the rigours of football.
    I think Klopp wants rid of him. What use is a player who is great, but is always injured?
    Similarly, we should get rid of P.Jones - a player not capable of playing football at an elite level, without breaking down.
     
    Hope Januzaj will be on the bench then, we don't enough players who can come off the bench and make something happen. Jones shouldn't start because it means wasting a sub, Fellaini should be benched and Martial needs to be given free reign to come into the box instead of staying out wide.
     
    Pexbo said:
    I hope the Newcastle game was a proper eye opener for him regarding Fellaini. We cannot have him starting against Liverpool.
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    Fellaini will be the 2nd name down on the team sheet (after Rooney).
    LVG is stubborn and always likes to give players an opportunity to prove themselves. Last year, Falcao was terrible, but it took almost the entire season for LVG to work this out.

    I actually a theory that LVG likes non-scoring attackers which is why we have so many in our team.
     
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    So the midfield three is consisting of Morgan, Herrera and Fellaini. Best case scenario is the farther up the pitch Fellaini is, the worse he'll be because he's such a wandering lumberjack in midfield where Morgan is trying to win the ball, but has no support behind him where Fellaini should be.

    If (When) Liverpool press, Fellaini will be used as the outlet, which is okay in these games. The less pitch Fellaini is responsible for, the better.
     
    I'd go with Herrera and Morgan in midfield with Rooney as the number 10. I know that sounds a bit too attacking at Anfield but Fellaini does feck all defensively anyway.
     
    edcunited1878 said:
    So the midfield three is consisting of Morgan, Herrera and Fellaini. Best case scenario is the farther up the pitch Fellaini is, the worse he'll be because he's such a wandering lumberjack in midfield where Morgan is trying to win the ball, but has no support behind him where Fellaini should be.

    If (When) Liverpool press, Fellaini will be used as the outlet, which is okay in these games. The less pitch Fellaini is responsible for, the better.
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    This is the problem. Playing Ander further back might negate his probing and energy, However we need both him and Morgan to work their socks off to protect the Back 4, because they will get sod all assistance from Fellaini. Just put him at No. 9 out of the way.
     
    DomesticTadpole said:
    This is the problem. Playing Ander further back might negate his probing and energy, However we need both him and Morgan to work their socks off to protect the Back 4, because they will get sod all assistance from Fellaini. Just put him at No. 9 out of the way.
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    Exactly. It's backwards for a player of Afroman at club level. You have to accommodate his glaring weakness first (defensive awareness and accountability) in central midfield, where you obviously cannot be a passenger (compared to a wide player where defensively, they're accountable for the area in front and behind, so you can get away with it more than center mid players).

    If Fellaini is deployed in a midfield three, he can focus on a easier task (i.e. one channel, get in the box, repeat). He has energy and throws himself around, which is actually good because you can't really bully him since he's a big lumberjack. He does okay with less, which is all we can ask for right now.
     
    deGea
    Young Smalling McNair Darmian
    Schneiderlin Blind
    Herrera
    Mata Rooney Martial

    or

    deGea
    Varela Smalling Blind Darmian
    Schneiderlin Herrera
    Mata
    Young Rooney Martial​
     
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    De Gea
    Young Smalling Blind Darmian
    Carrick
    Schneiderlin Herrera
    Mata Rooney Martial
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    We will start Fellaini and will be awful as a result. Might as well start with 10 men.
     
    Liverpool fan at work was giving it plenty about how we're in trouble Sunday etc.

    Have I missed something with Liverpool? They're still plenty sh!t aren't they, and have a massive injury crisis?
     
    Member 5225 said:
    LVG sacked if a poor result (what is that?)
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    Godfather said:
    Just please no draw. A loss would cost LvG's job which I'd welcome. A win would mean a win against Liverpool, which I'd welcome even more. A draw would be the worst outcome.
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    Why on earth would he be sacked after losing Liverpool away, when he wasn't sacked after not winning for 8 games, losing to Norwich at home and Bournemouth!

    Unless it was a 4-0 and 2 sendings off or something shameful.
     
    Sandikan said:
    Liverpool fan at work was giving it plenty about how we're in trouble Sunday etc.

    Have I missed something with Liverpool? They're still plenty sh!t aren't they, and have a massive injury crisis?
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    We're generally better in the big games and struggle against well organised sides and against more physical opposition. West Ham, Watford and Palace out fought us. I don't know why your friend at work is so confident though because I'm struggling to see a Liverpool victory. Every time we're on the verge of getting ourselves into a decent position we suffer a defeat and fall back again. I think Van Gaal is a relatively lucky manager too and can pull a big result out of the bag when he needs to.

    Our injury crisis isn't as bad as it's been made out to be. We've got Skrtel and Lovren out as well as Gomez with a long term injury but Toure, Caulker and Sakho are all fit to play. Other than Coutinho and Sturridge we're not really missing anyone crucial, although I'd much rather Lovren played with Toure over Sakho at the minute.

    You're more than capable of beating us.
     
    In my opinion, our strongest team for this would be

    de Gea
    Varela Smalling Blind Darmian
    Schweinsteiger Schneiderlin
    Herrera
    Martial--------------Lingard
    Rooney

    Subs: Romero, Pereira, Depay, Mata, McNair, CBJ, Young
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    Couple of things:

    *Would much rather see Martial as no.9 but Rooney's been in good form and it's arguably good to have someone who 'knows the fixture' in the team, especially for a derby..

    *Varela should 100% start over Young at L/RB, was good when we played him in the CL and IMO should play more. Zidane couldn't speak highly enough of him..

    Also, if we're just chucking youngsters in here and there, maybe Gribbin should get a 10 minute cameo?
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    Klopper76 said:
    We're generally better in the big games and struggle against well organised sides and against more physical opposition. West Ham, Watford and Palace out fought us. I don't know why your friend at work is so confident though because I'm struggling to see a Liverpool victory. Every time we're on the verge of getting ourselves into a decent position we suffer a defeat and fall back again. I think Van Gaal is a relatively lucky manager too and can pull a big result out of the bag when he needs to.

    Our injury crisis isn't as bad as it's been made out to be. We've got Skrtel and Lovren out as well as Gomez with a long term injury but Toure, Caulker and Sakho are all fit to play. Other than Coutinho and Sturridge we're not really missing anyone crucial, although I'd much rather Lovren played with Toure over Sakho at the minute.

    You're more than capable of beating us.
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    Klopp has beaten Van Gaal in their last two games.

    And historically Liverpool raise their game when United come to town.


    You have a better attack (or a better functioning one), we have a better defense (not a great one, but better)


    I'd say you are favourites, but it doesnt count for much come matchday.
     
    Klopper76 said:
    We're generally better in the big games and struggle against well organised sides and against more physical opposition. West Ham, Watford and Palace out fought us. I don't know why your friend at work is so confident though because I'm struggling to see a Liverpool victory. Every time we're on the verge of getting ourselves into a decent position we suffer a defeat and fall back again. I think Van Gaal is a relatively lucky manager too and can pull a big result out of the bag when he needs to.

    Our injury crisis isn't as bad as it's been made out to be. We've got Skrtel and Lovren out as well as Gomez with a long term injury but Toure, Caulker and Sakho are all fit to play. Other than Coutinho and Sturridge we're not really missing anyone crucial, although I'd much rather Lovren played with Toure over Sakho at the minute.

    You're more than capable of beating us.
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    Coutinho out changes the dynamic massively, could imagine Fellaini and Darmian getting intoa right merry game of soldiers following him around.

    If we can get through this game and still be 2points off 4th, we'll be delighted. We've got a tough league game sprinkled in every 2 or 3 now though, you lot, Chelsea away, Arsenal home, City away all by mid March
     
    Sandikan said:
    Liverpool fan at work was giving it plenty about how we're in trouble Sunday etc.

    Have I missed something with Liverpool? They're still plenty sh!t aren't they, and have a massive injury crisis?
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    Origi, Coutinho, Lovern, Skertel out, Toure struggling, Strurridge of course won't play, reckon same team that played Arsenal.

    Usually the better the opposition the better they seem to play... so sure we'll be fine.
     
    2 Man Midfield said:
    Want:

    ----------------DDG-------------
    Darmian-Smalling-Blind-Young
    -----Schneiderlin-Herrera------
    Lingard------Rooney-------Depay
    -------------Martial-------------

    Is Carrick back?
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    Only issue with that side is that neither Lingard or Depay show any interest in defending. Watching the games they do not tend to fight for the ball when opposing players go past them. If they showed desire then that is probably our most mobile team. I would also prefer it, and take the risk of being under pressure for a lot of the game. However, I have a funny feeling Lingard will get dropped for Mata, and I think he will stick with Fellani.
     
    Stretford End Phil said:
    Sorry Red - If we lose nothing will happen. The board will transfer its hopes to the cup. When the season ends down the toilet they might ask him to retire in April.
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    I think this is spot on, he will stay until the bitter end now imo, or at least until it is mathematically impossible for us to get top 4 at least. It's counter productive but he'd be gone by now if we really wanted to replace this season and give a new guy a proper chance.

    I do think he'll go in the summer though, and you can only hope we are looking for our new manager already.
     
    SalfordRed1960 said:
    Only issue with that side is that neither Lingard or Depay show any interest in defending. Watching the games they do not tend to fight for the ball when opposing players go past them. If they showed desire then that is probably our most mobile team. I would also prefer it, and take the risk of being under pressure for a lot of the game. However, I have a funny feeling Lingard will get dropped for Mata, and I think he will stick with Fellani.
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    I wasn't left with much choice really. Valencia is out, Young is off doing his Luke Shaw impression, and Mata is already pretty bad at tracking back. Those are basically our only wide options, so i could understand why LvG didn't start with too much width the other night.

    As long as we don't see Fellaini, i'll be happy. Us in white, playing shit, away at Anfield, with him slowing the play down...you can just picture it can't you?
     
    C'est Moi Cantona said:
    Origi, Coutinho, Lovern, Skertel out, Toure struggling, Strurridge of course won't play, reckon same team that played Arsenal.

    Usually the better the opposition the better they seem to play... so sure we'll be fine.
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    Exactly, we're not exactly going great guns, but since they caught City and Southampton away magnificently, they've done nothing of note.
     
    2 Man Midfield said:
    I wasn't left with much choice really. Valencia is out, Young is off doing his Luke Shaw impression, and Mata is already pretty bad at tracking back. Those are basically our only wide options, so i could understand why LvG didn't start with too much width the other night.

    As long as we don't see Fellaini, i'll be happy. Us in white, playing shit, away at Anfield, with him slowing the play down...you can just picture it can't you?
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    We were brilliant there last season. Dreaming... :devil:
     
    edcunited1878 said:
    So the midfield three is consisting of Morgan, Herrera and Fellaini. Best case scenario is the farther up the pitch Fellaini is, the worse he'll be because he's such a wandering lumberjack in midfield where Morgan is trying to win the ball, but has no support behind him where Fellaini should be.

    If (When) Liverpool press, Fellaini will be used as the outlet, which is okay in these games. The less pitch Fellaini is responsible for, the better.
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    I don't get this, he's not a central midfielder, or holding midfielder. He's a battering ram further up the pitch if you need it, that's what he was at everton, where he was his best.
     
    You can have a limo, but end up being driven to a tent. You can wear Armani shoes while holding a sign ‘’homeless’’ and have a mismatch. You can produce dreamy creamy cupcakes, but if your the only mouth to feed, nobody will taste it. The Anfield crowd will be shattered into nonexsistent wind and the eyes of United fans worldwide will glaze like diamonds. They will fabricate their own joy but end up in a nigtmare. They will wake up in a pool of sweat hearing the echo of United fans cheering, reminiscing the red marching army scoring the winner at the kop end. Kings will be born and the slaves will remain slaves. Trumpets will be blown while those who taste defeat will only hear the sound of their chained ankles serving resigning to their Faith, the sound of iron, rhytmically brushing the canvas. The motion of defeat, the sound of nonexsistent wind and now smile, because those who wear the red will return with the victory.

    Goodnight my friends.
     
    Both clubs' supporters have cause for pessimism. Any result is possible, from a Liverpool rout to a United rout to a boring draw. I'm confident we'll get the narrow win but I could also see Louis shutting it down with endless ridiculous sideways passing and settling for the 0-0 draw.
     
    LazyRed-Ninja said:
    You can have a limo, but end up being driven to a tent. You can wear Armani shoes while holding a sign ‘’homeless’’ and have a mismatch. You can produce dreamy creamy cupcakes, but if your the only mouth to feed, nobody will taste it. The Anfield crowd will be shattered into nonexsistent wind and the eyes of United fans worldwide will glaze like diamonds. They will fabricate their own joy but end up in a nigtmare. They will wake up in a pool of sweat hearing the echo of United fans cheering, reminiscing the red marching army scoring the winner at the kop end. Kings will be born and the slaves will remain slaves. Trumpets will be blown while those who taste defeat will only hear the sound of their chained ankles serving resigning to their Faith, the sound of iron, rhytmically brushing the canvas. The motion of defeat, the sound of nonexsistent wind and now smile, because those who wear the red will return with the victory.

    Goodnight my friends.
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    Wayne Rooney, is that you?
     
    Looking forward to this match even though I'm not confident of a result.
    How Liverpool get on will depend on the tactics used by LVG. If Utd sit back and try to catch us on the counter, I've no doubt in my mind that you'll win. We can't break teams down no matter how suspect they happen to be in defence.
    Attack us and give us space to play behind you and we can be brilliant. Just a shame for us that you'll probably score with most of your attacks as our defence is awful!
     
    LazyRed-Ninja said:
    You can have a limo, but end up being driven to a tent. You can wear Armani shoes while holding a sign ‘’homeless’’ and have a mismatch. You can produce dreamy creamy cupcakes, but if your the only mouth to feed, nobody will taste it. The Anfield crowd will be shattered into nonexsistent wind and the eyes of United fans worldwide will glaze like diamonds. They will fabricate their own joy but end up in a nigtmare. They will wake up in a pool of sweat hearing the echo of United fans cheering, reminiscing the red marching army scoring the winner at the kop end. Kings will be born and the slaves will remain slaves. Trumpets will be blown while those who taste defeat will only hear the sound of their chained ankles serving resigning to their Faith, the sound of iron, rhytmically brushing the canvas. The motion of defeat, the sound of nonexsistent wind and now smile, because those who wear the red will return with the victory.

    Goodnight my friends.
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    Not sure what this is all about but I like cupcakes if you're making them
     
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