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    I've never had to stream a game for an age. Not wanting to be a pain in the arse but does anyone know of a decent site? A link would be good!
    Try circfree.com to see if it works. Don't download anything they ask you to.
     
    Every single pundit is saying Liverpool to beat us tomorrow and to finish top 4 instead of us like they have been playing fantastic and didn't scrape a flukey win against Swansea ..

    By god I hope we smash them tomorrow and watch the mugs backtrack and all look like fools, I can't remember how long ago it was that beating Liverpool was so important, its usually an ego boost for whoever wins but means so much more this time around which makes it even more exciting
    Or maybe the pundits are looking at the past dozen games and have seen Liverpool reduce a 10 point gap down to 2. Swansea was one game.

    I'm certainly not predicting a straightforward win but based on current trajectory and having home advantage it's not lunacy to predict a positive outcome for Liverpool.
     
    I don't get the many references to the Swansea game, we were lucky - it happens - by the way they beat United twice.
     
    Bookies have L'pool favourites, pundits do, we're clearly underdogs for this, and rightly so based on form and home advantage. I'm praying LVG can pull something out of the bag.
     
    Whatever happens I still expect us to be above them after gameweek 31. Winning will be massive, it could knock them down, with Arsenal away following. That last point is crucial IMO. Arsenal are nailed on for a top 4 finish, and maybe 2nd. I expect them to beat Liverpool and we should beat Villa.
     
    De Gea
    Valencia Smalling Jones Blind
    Fellaini Carrick Herrera
    Di Maria Rooney Young

    A bit harsh on Mata, but i don't think this is a game for him.​
     
    Totally agree, why play a player thats been crap [Di Maria] recently in favour of another who has been brilliant [A.Young] for us ? Logic out the window again

    The reason: big/expensive names.
    People love to use the expensive players in a team, expecting them to play better than the cheaper, in form players.
    I want us to play the best team, not the most expensive. Falcao, Di Maria, RVP - I dont want to see these guys start a game unless its the last resort.
    And btw, Ashley Young is currently one of our best players in the team - why on Earth would you not play him?
     
    Based on Mondays performance, I can pass better than him.

    (But yeah. He's not the most natural on the ball, but he's decent... Not good, not bad, just average with a few crazy moments).

    He was bad for about the first ten minutes and then made the Swansea supporters look like twats for the remaining 80.
     
    it's not like they are anything special, they have racked up points, but there are very few matches they have been convincing. There are some, but of course, it's impressive to rack up points in such a manner. boltonx2, blackburn,spurs,southampton, besiktas*2, leicester,everton,afc wimbledon AND burnley were all matches that they either didn't win or they won but didn't necessarily deserve it. So I honestly can't believe the hype
     
    I haven't watched a whole lot of United this season so I'm not really sure what to expect. I hope we try and hit you hard from the get go like we did vs Man City.

    This isn't a necessarily crucial game though, with the fixtures you guys have afterwards we could still catch you even if we lose.
     
    The reason: big/expensive names.
    People love to use the expensive players in a team, expecting them to play better than the cheaper, in form players.
    I want us to play the best team, not the most expensive. Falcao, Di Maria, RVP - I dont want to see these guys start a game unless its the last resort.
    And btw, Ashley Young is currently one of our best players in the team - why on Earth would you not play him?

    You don't drop players like di Maria, as he has the ability to change games in the matter of seconds. Even though he's having a difficult year, he's still managed to score 4 and assist 10, in all competitions. He was impressive against Arsenal before the sending off, too.

    I don't think he'll start, anyway. Going by the images from training and the cohesion we saw against Spurs; he'll have to settle with bench and could make a huge impact as a substitute, later in the game. Don't write di Maria off, just yet. This is the same guy who was easily one of the best players, last year; and don't forget the confidence he gained from the faith shown by Ancelotti, which played a huge part in his performances.
     
    Swansea were much better in the first game, United were quite clearly superior in the second.

    You seem like a decent poster from the few I've noticed, but what you'll find from Barney is that absolutely everything Liverpool is amazing and everything United the complete opposite. Please don't end up like him when you get promoted.
     
    The main reason people feel this is the key game to decide the top four is "momentum" whichever side wins will have it in spades, and will believe they can go on to beat anybody. Lose, and those games against the likes of Arsenal and Chelsea look that much tougher. This game will have a huge psychological effect on both the the victors and the losers.
     
    You seem like a decent poster from the few I've noticed, but what you'll find from Barney is that absolutely everything Liverpool is amazing and everything United the complete opposite. Please don't end up like him when you get promoted.
    :lol:
     
    I'm strangely confident about this game.
    Stick Di Maria on Sterlings side and make him track back or expose him on the counter.
    Sit Carrick deep and deny Countinho space and let Herrera get in and around Henderson.
    I'm always free if Van Gaal wants a consult...
     
    I'm terrible with sarcasm, am I being trolled or........?

    No, I genuinely hope you continue as you are.

    You'll find Barney is reasonably well liked on here, yet he has a bucket full of warning points. Probably because he seems like a decent guy when not discussing United or Liverpool, but is a complete lunatic if they happen to be his subject of choice.
     
    I'm strangely confident about this game.
    Stick Di Maria on Sterlings side and make him track back or expose him on the counter.
    Sit Carrick deep and deny Countinho space and let Herrera get in and around Henderson.
    I'm always free if Van Gaal wants a consult...
    It's a reasonable set of points but it reflects the trap that football observers often fall into (myself included).

    What you've not considered is that two teams will take to the pitch tomorrow with tactics designed to get the best out of their own players while reducing the impact of the opposition. It's not as simple to assume, for example, that Di Maria can pin back Sterling. What if Sterling has the opposite brief and Liverpool occupy the ball? The plan doesn't work. Di Maria can't do the thing you've suggested.

    My point is that such a set of simple instructions doesn't reflect how a game pans out. Suggesting that United players 'occupy' key Liverpool players is presumably the approach all coaches have when playing Liverpool. Monk got this right for 45 mins on Monday. Then Rodgers re-shaped side and Swansea faded. That's because games don't remain in a static state. The other team start to do stuff to negate the other team's tactics.

    This isn't an attack on you @cyberman it's more of a general observation about fan-based perspectives.
     
    The individual battles will be key.
    Sterling vs Blind
    Coutinho vs Carrick
    Fellaini vs Skrtel/Can
    Herrera vs Allen
    Tactics will no doubt play a huge part, but winning those duels against the opposing players is where trajectory of the game will be decided, ultimately however the 3points will go to whoever wants it more.
     
    No, I genuinely hope you continue as you are.

    You'll find Barney is reasonably well liked on here, yet he has a bucket full of warning points. Probably because he seems like a decent guy when not discussing United or Liverpool, but is a complete lunatic if they happen to be his subject of choice.

    Not one of my warnings has been related to something I've said about Liverpool. ;)
     
    The individual battles will be key.
    Sterling vs Blind
    Coutinho vs Carrick
    Fellaini vs Skrtel/Can
    Herrera vs Allen
    Tactics will no doubt play a huge part, but winning those duels against the opposing players is where trajectory of the game will be decided, ultimately however the 3points will go to whoever wants it more.
    I think this is a slightly bigger game for Liverpool than United and they are at home, so it may seem like they want it more tomorrow.
     
    I think this is a slightly bigger game for Liverpool than United and they are at home, so it may seem like they want it more tomorrow.

    They are certainly more in need of the points - we'll still be two ahead with a draw. I'm hoping that we'll nick it when they start to become more and more attacking.
     
    Just hope all the media confidence in Liverpool plays into our hands, but now I've said that it probably won't.
     
    I think this is a slightly bigger game for Liverpool than United and they are at home, so it may seem like they want it more tomorrow.
    Nonsense, both teams will be equally fired up for it, this is the first United-Liverpool game of significance in a while, if i was a player i'd be royally pissed off if everyone wasn't pulling there weight out there. The way both teams go about obtaining the 3pts won't necessarily be an indicator of who wants it more if that is what you were alluding to. I could be wrong on that.
     
    It's a reasonable set of points but it reflects the trap that football observers often fall into (myself included).

    What you've not considered is that two teams will take to the pitch tomorrow with tactics designed to get the best out of their own players while reducing the impact of the opposition. It's not as simple to assume, for example, that Di Maria can pin back Sterling. What if Sterling has the opposite brief and Liverpool occupy the ball? The plan doesn't work. Di Maria can't do the thing you've suggested.

    My point is that such a set of simple instructions doesn't reflect how a game pans out. Suggesting that United players 'occupy' key Liverpool players is presumably the approach all coaches have when playing Liverpool. Monk got this right for 45 mins on Monday. Then Rodgers re-shaped side and Swansea faded. That's because games don't remain in a static state. The other team start to do stuff to negate the other team's tactics.

    This isn't an attack on you @cyberman it's more of a general observation about fan-based perspectives.
    I realise this, I don't expect Van Gall to spend two minutes on tactics and leave it at that as I did lol. It's not rocket science to set up to stop the oppositions star players after all.
    What I have noticed is Liverpool relying on individual brilliance or opposition mistakes during the last 6 weeks or so. Maybe it's easier to nullify your passing / counter attacking game than you'd think.
    Youre not getting in behind defences anymore. Maybe that's a by product of playing a few yards deeper to protect your defence but the end result is the same regardless.
    United tend to struggle this season against physical teams with direct power up front. We're rarely opened up by swift passing / clever movement.
    That's the one thing Van Gaal has brought that you can say with any assurance that we've improved upon. That and not folding to high pressure anymore.
     
    You don't drop players like di Maria, as he has the ability to change games in the matter of seconds. Even though he's having a difficult year, he's still managed to score 4 and assist 10, in all competitions. He was impressive against Arsenal before the sending off, too.

    Di Maria, may come good, but A.Young is good, right now. Mata was also decent in the last game.
    The issue I have with Di Maria is that his confidence is shot - every time he dribbles forward, he gets dis-possessed. So in that diving incident, he decided it would be better to dive than to dribble past men (which Rooney demonstrated against Spurs, for his goal). In such an important game, we shouldn't use players whose confidence is gone.

    And with regards to his stats, most of his assists/goals came in the first few games. Once his form dropped, he has been pretty useless.
    I think the most notable contribution recently was his cross/assist against Arsenal.

    The Di Maria of last year (and earlier in the season) would go straight into the starting 11. The Di Maria of 2015, isnt good enough to push other (in-form) players out.
    Out of interest, does anybody know how many goals/assists Di Maria has in 2015?
     
    Nonsense, both teams will be equally fired up for it, this is the first United-Liverpool game of significance in a while, if i was a player i'd be royally pissed off if everyone wasn't pulling there weight out there. The way both teams go about obtaining the 3pts won't necessarily be an indicator of who wants it more if that is what you were alluding to. I could be wrong on that.
    You said it could depend on who wants it more, obviously both teams will be fired up totally to get a result. But United may be more reserved being the away team and being the team in which would be happier with a draw.
     
    I realise this, I don't expect Van Gall to spend two minutes on tactics and leave it at that as I did lol. It's not rocket science to set up to stop the oppositions star players after all.
    What I have noticed is Liverpool relying on individual brilliance or opposition mistakes during the last 6 weeks or so. Maybe it's easier to nullify your passing / counter attacking game than you'd think.
    Youre not getting in behind defences anymore. Maybe that's a by product of playing a few yards deeper to protect your defence but the end result is the same regardless.
    United tend to struggle this season against physical teams with direct power up front. We're rarely opened up by swift passing / clever movement.
    That's the one thing Van Gaal has brought that you can say with any assurance that we've improved upon. That and not folding to high pressure anymore.
    If United have coped well with pacey passing sides it means they've sat pretty deep. I don't see the likes of Di Maria forcing Sterling back and Herrera pushing onto Henderson. They're more likely to concede possession to these players, absorb their pressure and look to pick Liverpool off on the counter.

    I can see United making this rather attritional and tactical rather than imposing the play onto Liverpool.
     
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  1. Liverpool
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Possession
42% 58%
Shots
7 6
Shots on Target
1 4
Corners
2 3
Fouls
14 17

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Martin Atkinson