This. Has to be a proper 3 man midfield. We got rinsed by City, and they just strolled through the centre of the pitch. Liverpool pack the midfield with attack-minded players, we'd be daft to go with a midfield 2 away at Anfield with the way they play.
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Liverpool 0:0 Manchester United
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This. Has to be a proper 3 man midfield. We got rinsed by City, and they just strolled through the centre of the pitch. Liverpool pack the midfield with attack-minded players, we'd be daft to go with a midfield 2 away at Anfield with the way they play.They are crap defensively and fade after 35 minutes or so with their insane pressing. It's surviving the first half that is key IMO, we will need to have a proper 3 man midfield for this, which is harsh on Mata but necessary against this lot.
Exactly what I want to see too but I think we'll start with the same line up as today with Martial in place of Lingard.Hopefully we'll have learned some lessons from the City game, because if not then there's the potential for them to do what City did in the first half: start with a high intensity attacking game we can't cope with, and grab a goal or two.
Luckily though they're shoddy in defence and if we play well we can expose them. Zlatan needs to ensure he's a constant hassle and putting them under pressure. Mata should play since he regularly pops up with important contributions, whether it be a goal or assist, in big games.
I've predicted a 2-1 Liverpool win, but the fact they're in good form and we've been a bit meddling makes me think we might surprise them and pick up a result. Klopp's Liverpool have often been inconsistent...although at the same they're also often very good in the big games.
I think that this idea that we fade as games go on is a bit of a myth. We faded late on against Spurs and Arsenal but against Chelsea we regained control after they had a decent spell for 10-15 minutes, and we were pretty good for the entire 90 minutes against Hull and Leicester. Yesterday we had a poor first half then played with an increased intensity in the second 45 minutes.They are crap defensively and fade after 35 minutes or so with their insane pressing. It's surviving the first half that is key IMO, we will need to have a proper 3 man midfield for this, which is harsh on Mata but necessary against this lot.
It's true that we don't always maintain the same intensity for a full game but we don't always fade after the first 30 minutes or so.1-0 either way----------------------DDG
Valencia-Bailly-Smalling-Shaw
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Miki----------------------------Martial
---------------------IbraGuessing if we lose this game our season is over, Mourinho is a crap manager, Pogba was a massive waste of money, Rooney continues to be crap and our biggest problem, the world will probably end and there will be mass hysteria once more on the caf... does that sound about right?Pray to the football gods that the players aren't as pessimistic as some people on this thread.
Think that front three is too lightweight for Mourinho. Lingard will almost certainly start because he defends from the front. Can't see Mkhitaryan starting either.
If we start Mkhitaryan, we'd be making the same mistake we did when we started him against City. This will be a very high intensity game. Putting him straight in after an injury lay off will be a brave move.
You represent the type - the typical Liverpool fan getting full of yourself after winning absolutely zip. I know we're not looking like a title challenger as of right now, but in my book only City has so far, and they lost 2-0 today. Keep it up, sooner or later we'll get a laugh at your expense.I think we'll lose quite convincingly.
Anyway, glad Martial's back for this one, and hopefully Shaw is too. I want to see Mkhi get some game time but, after City, I don't think this is the type of game to throw him into.
L'pool fans are good on here on the whole, that one isn't, very condescending and full of unearned grandstanding, you would think Liverpool had been a successful team by the way they posture. Also has history for skulking off when they lose.
Fingers crossed it'll happen again soon.This game might show what difference it makes between having a manager who has been there for awhile and one who has just sat down.David De Gea
Valencia Bailly Smalling Blind
Fellaini Herrera Pogba
Rashford Ibra Martial
Pretty sure we will line up like we did in the second half vs City. Fellaini will be in the team as an outball for the press.
We also NEED a third midfielder sitting deep. Liverpool thrive off those little balls played in from the wing to runners from deep. We'll be eaten alive if we play 4-2-3-1
I don't think Jose's ability to motivate will be tested tbh. As I said in a previous post, if your players can't get themselves up for Liverpool away under the lights, then there's no hope for you and it wouldn't matter who the manager was.
Our set piece defence is a huge issue and has been for years. I'd imagine Jose to do what he does best at Anfield, park a bus, put another bus in front of that and then try to nick a goal from said set pieces.
The games between the top clubs this season have been brilliant... entertainment wise, I don't think this will be
Yeah, I smelled as much.
He replied "Ha" to this post from me. Not saying anything that's very amusing, am I? My post was a reply to the "we're going to lose 4-5-6-0"I'd take a draw right now but it seems unlikely.
Our wins/losses have nothing to do with formation.
If it was that easy, LVG, Moyes and Jose would all have realised that formation change alone will see us win games and the formation change would've been made.
No matter what formation we play, we are inconsistent. This was the case under LVG and continues to be the case under Jose.
Totally agree.
I also vote for the Park The Bus (PTB) tactic.
We are not playing well and to prevent a loss, Jose needs to use a negative tactic.
If we use the PTB tactic, I can see us winning 1-0. If we attempt to out-play Liverpool, I can see us losing by 2 or 3 goals.
We don't have the personel for that. The pressure will build and build and they'll score in the first 30 minutes.
Our best hope is to match their running with ours and fight for every inch, while looking to spring Martial and co in behind.
Agree with this, although we need to see how fit Miki is, rushing back from injury in a game like this would be unwise.
If we get a draw i would be happy
I'm merely pointing out that if United go to Anfield with an attacking game plan it'll probably be a bad idea.
I'm hardly full of myself but I am allowed to counter points of view I disagree with. My posts may very well reflect the buoyant mood around the club - which is reasonable - indeed, your response possibly betrays your own frustrations about the current situation of your own club. Possibly.
We don't have the personnel to use the Park The Bus (PTB) tactic?
So, let me understand this, teams which are bottom of the league have often used this tactic against us and drew/won and you are saying that we don't have players as good as teams who have used this tactic against us?
The PTB tactic is especially designed for use when you are playing a team who are superior, especially at attacking and ball possession.
Liverpool fit this bill perfectly. If ever we were to use this tactic, it would be against LFC.
Liverpool were out matched by the Swans in the midfield for 45. Now, Utd, with a higher class of players and all should fancy their chances doing something like that but over 70 or so.
As for the rest, such arrogance at doing so little is to be expected when Liverpool have won 1 trophy in 10 or so years, wading into Spur's territory there.We must win and we will win. Simple.
These teams base their entire existence and coaching system around PTB, we don't. Doing that for the first time of the seaons against an in form 'Pool is begging for a kicking.
We have the better players from back to front. So match them.
If Liverpool's season consisted solely of that 45 minutes then your point would carry a little more weight. It's like saying Liverpool have nothing to worry about because United only scored one goal against the league's most sieve-like defence.
A more grown-up analysis would be to suggest that both teams will have an entirely different tactical approach and mindset against a fierce rival. Therefore, using Swansea or Stoke as measures as to how this game will go is possibly misguided.
I don't think it's so clear cut. Certainly not in the final third.
Swans are the only team to stand up to the Pool's midfield, others, even Spurs were scared of Mane's speed to do that. However, the Smalling + Baily combo is pacey and physical, and will play 15 yards higher up the pitch. Jose will observe the Swans game and see the pace we need to play at. This means an open game with goals for both sides.
As for the rest of your post, I know your Messiah complex would make Donald Trump blush, but you really need to reel in your condescending attitude or your reputation as a poor poster will spread.
I don't expect you to agree. Liverpool have the league's most delusional fans after all
Last edited:I put Blind at LB, but considering Mane will play on the right, Shaw's the right player for this game.Rooney hattrick. 3-2 United.They are crap defensively and fade after 35 minutes or so with their insane pressing. It's surviving the first half that is key IMO, we will need to have a proper 3 man midfield for this, which is harsh on Mata but necessary against this lot.
I agree. They will come out firing like Spurs today for the first twenty five minutes and possibly early on in the second half. We just have to stay with them and wait for a mistake.Carrick has to playThis will be a tough match, we need to keep our defense tight or they will rip us to shreds. I'm hoping for a 2-1 victory for us.Rooney
Why not fight fire with fire?
I see I quoted the wrong post. I pointed out that we're playing Liverpool and not one of the worldies, since some of our own fans are predicting a mauling. You then replied "Ha", so I stand by everything I said, you pompous archtypical online Liverpool fan. Or, you know, maybe I've got it wrong and we're indeed playing a team on Barca or Bayern's level? Which was my original point, to the other United fans.- Status
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Score Predictions
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- Man Utd win
- Liverpool win
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Detailed Results
- 19% Liverpool 1:2 Man Utd
- 10% Liverpool 3:1 Man Utd
- 9% Liverpool 2:1 Man Utd
- 9% Liverpool 1:1 Man Utd
- 8% Liverpool 2:2 Man Utd
- 7% Liverpool 2:0 Man Utd
- 6% Liverpool 0:1 Man Utd
- 5% Liverpool 3:0 Man Utd
- 5% Liverpool 1:3 Man Utd
- 4% Liverpool 0:2 Man Utd
- 3% Liverpool 2:3 Man Utd
- 3% Liverpool 0:0 Man Utd
- 2% Liverpool 0:3 Man Utd
- 2% Liverpool 5:0 Man Utd
- 1% Liverpool 0:5 Man Utd
- 1% Liverpool 3:2 Man Utd
- 1% Liverpool 4:1 Man Utd
- 1% Liverpool 4:0 Man Utd
- 1% Liverpool 2:4 Man Utd
- 1% Liverpool 1:0 Man Utd
- 1% Liverpool 1:4 Man Utd
- 1% Liverpool 1:5 Man Utd
- 0% Liverpool 5:1 Man Utd
- 0% Liverpool 4:5 Man Utd
- 0% Liverpool 3:3 Man Utd
- 0% Liverpool 4:2 Man Utd
- 0% Liverpool 0:4 Man Utd
- 0% Liverpool 4:3 Man Utd
Match Stats
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- Man Utd
- Possession
- 65% 35%
- Shots
- 9 7
- Shots on Target
- 3 1
- Corners
- 3 1
- Fouls
- 14 20
Referee
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