Leicester City 5:3 Manchester United

RedSRM · Sep 21, 2014

FoxingLucky said:
spot on.....gary neville just said Man Utd got bullied.....this is the premier league....

the fans on here were fair before the game and now the ref scored 3 goals and LCFC cheated......mmmm how are those grapes tasting.....bit sour???

Clattenburg gave a terrible decision and the game did seem to swing on that moment.
However, United shouldn't have allowed the game to get away from them after the penalty and Van Gaal is right to make that point post-match. A side with top 4 ambitions needs to have better game management skills than this. A long way to go before Utd are ready to compete with the top sides again.

caid · Sep 21, 2014

Jimmy Skitz said:
I'm sure had that been Di Maria at the other end your fans would have been up screaming for a penalty as well and which goal did De Laet foul someone in the build up to? he out muscled someone at some point in the build up to Vardy's goals but that's not a foul Rojo dropped like a sack of spuds

Most would have but i would have called him a cheat. As i did with young.
I doesn't really matter if you believe me. We didn't lose because of the penalty decision or the referee and you didn't win because of them either.

I don't know which foul people are complaining about with de laet, I missed it. Mata tripped up or slipped for the 4th goal, dont think de laet even touched him.
We just imploded basically.

J-Stander · Sep 21, 2014

Jimmy Skitz said:
I'm sure had that been Di Maria at the other end your fans would have been up screaming for a penalty as well and which goal did De Laet foul someone in the build up to? he out muscled someone at some point in the build up to Vardy's goals but that's not a foul Rojo dropped like a sack of spuds

Stop being a tit. It was a foul. Enjoy your win instead of coming on here and chatting complete shite.

Red Dreams · Sep 21, 2014

the ref gave the match to Leicester and they took it.

But even with the ref against the team, we should have stood strong and played as a team instead of throwing discipline out the window.

Not worried tbh. Chelsea are a point better than before the weekend started. And LvG and Giggs will straighten out the team before next week.

Manucho the boss · Sep 21, 2014

RedSRM said:
Really is a disgraceful dive actually. I've been critical of Rafael's rashness (and I still think he needs to grow up regarding his temperament) but Vardy has conned that moron of a ref. I think Rafa's reputation as a hot-head has probably meant that Twattenburg assumes the foul was coming even before anything had happened.

He was waiting for the contact but Rafa showed no intelligence in the way he charged back after him, you have to know he'll move his body to shield the ball from you, you can't run through him. Rafa is no longer an inexperienced youngster, he shouldn't still be getting caught out so easily.

Red Dreams · Sep 21, 2014

agree. Rafael should be docked pay for his sillines. But we need to be a lot more disciplined and play as a team and be worthy of the fantastic players we have assembled. We will get there.

bugmat · Sep 21, 2014

Ricardo de la Vega said:
That's what I'm talking about - insane criticism of Rafael for every little thing.

He did touch him..but it wasn't anything to make him flip arse up in the air much less fall. The touch he gave him was nothing compared to what vardy did 5 seconds earlier. Clattenberg had a amre.

Manucho the boss · Sep 21, 2014

bugmat said:
He did touch him..but it wasn't anything to make him flip arse up in the air much less fall. The touch he gave him was nothing compared to what vardy did 5 seconds earlier. Clattenberg had a amre.

I think the refs are told to punish contact from behind whereas the initial barge by Vardy was side to side.

FoxInPeace · Sep 21, 2014

Disappointed by some of the comments by your lot to be honest. Seems like a lot of excuses rather than crediting us as deserved winners.

Whether it was a penalty or not you couldn't handle Vardy all day. Rafael was very naive in his reaction to be out muscled (brutally assaulted) by Vardy. The character we showed today was brilliant and the fans got right behind us even at 1-3

You're still unbelievable going forward but I think we've shown that we are not too shabby either

Dobba · Sep 21, 2014

FoxInPeace said:
Disappointed by some of the comments by your lot to be honest. Seems like a lot of excuses rather than crediting us as deserved winners.

Whether it was a penalty or not you couldn't handle Vardy all day. Rafael was very naive in his reaction to be out muscled

Takes some effort to contradict yourself that quickly, kudos.

loki · Sep 21, 2014

The referee won that game, momentum wise it nearly all swung on that incredibly bad decision for the first penalty. It was a clear foul on Rafael followed by him not barging the player or giving him an excuse as some have said but him running to the side of the player trying to get onto the ball when Vardy jumps sideways into Rafael and then drops to the ground. I can't believe people are blaming Rafael for that when he didnt move into Vardy at all, just ran alongside not jumping into a tackle but still conceding a penalty to one of the worst refereeing calls I've ever seen.

The second penalty, I wasnt looking out for the foul that people say was comitted on Blackett, seem to have missed that but the initial robbery of Mata showed naivety on Mata's part.
Other than that I think they did in general have the run of play in terms of decisions and definitely in the break of the ball but I think there are far too many people not giving them credit for how well their interpassing was up front, they made a lot of almost chances with players in good positions that didnt quite come to fruition. 5 goals dont come from nowhere, I think they genuinely played good attacking football at times.

That said I also dont agree with how many people say we were woeful defensively. I'd like those who said so to back them up with examples. I found that Rojo got caught with balls past him a few times, and once or twice I think Blind didnt track his player properly in the game. The rest I though were mainly bad luck in break of ball situations, which could perhaps have been dealt with by perfect positioning, but I dont think it was actually definite bad positioning at the same time.
Their first goal was a cross from as far out as possible in an almost out of play position (some have claimed it was definitely out, I dont know on that) which went perfectly to a head, which was in turn a great header pinpoint to the corner in a goal that would have come off 1 in 20 or less. Their third was a ball that was hit and deflected from a Utd player into the feet of a Leicester player who deflected it back again perfectly paced and positioned for the Leicester player facing goal, who then hit a great shot. How do you defend multiple fortunate ball breaks?
I think that game on the play of the teams would have been won by us at least 85 of 100 times, drawn another 5 or 10 and a loss for the rest. Not our day

J-Stander · Sep 21, 2014

FoxInPeace said:
Disappointed by some of the comments by your lot to be honest. Seems like a lot of excuses rather than crediting us as deserved winners.

Whether it was a penalty or not you couldn't handle Vardy all day. Rafael was very naive in his reaction to be out muscled (brutally assaulted) by Vardy. The character we showed today was brilliant and the fans got right behind us even at 1-3

You're still unbelievable going forward but I think we've shown that we are not too shabby either

Not at all. People are rightly saying it was a joke of a decision not to award us a free kick, and we capitulated after. Loads of people have said we couldnt handle Vardy but If you want praise go to a leicester forum. Leicester fans are very needy it seems.

bugmat · Sep 21, 2014

Manucho the boss said:
I think the refs are told to punish contact from behind whereas the initial barge by Vardy was side to side.

Naw Vardy shoved Rafel in the back - twas a clear foul.... then Rafael leaned on Vardy from the side for all of half a second..then after he stopped leaning, Vardy miraculously flew into the air - it was a dive.

FriendlyFox · Sep 21, 2014

J-Stander said:
Not at all. People are rightly saying it was a joke of a decision not to award us a free kick, and we capitulated after. Loads of people have said we couldnt handle Vardy but If you want praise go to a leicester forum. Leicester fans are very needy it seems.

It was a joke decision. Never a penalty in a million years, and Vardy clearly fouled Rafael. You did certainly get the rough end of the stick, our first goal also looked like it was out to me.

However, no one seems to mention that corner which you got awarded, when Di Maria (who was quality) shanked his shot wide. We just managed to capitalise on the ref's poor decisions.

FoxInPeace · Sep 21, 2014

J-Stander said:
Not at all. People are rightly saying it was a joke of a decision not to award us a free kick, and we capitulated after. Loads of people have said we couldnt handle Vardy but If you want praise go to a leicester forum. Leicester fans are very needy it seems.

Good point lol

Good game anyway that both teams contributed to. Even though it was against us I'm looking forward to seeing Di Maria's goal again on motd2. Looked class in real time

Sixpence · Sep 21, 2014

FoxInPeace said:
Disappointed by some of the comments by your lot to be honest. Seems like a lot of excuses rather than crediting us as deserved winners.

Whether it was a penalty or not you couldn't handle Vardy all day. Rafael was very naive in his reaction to be out muscled (brutally assaulted) by Vardy. The character we showed today was brilliant and the fans got right behind us even at 1-3

You're still unbelievable going forward but I think we've shown that we are not too shabby either

If Falcao's shot is an inch or 2 lower and doesn't hit the bar, the game is 4-1 and over. You lucked out there and then with the scandalous foul and resultant penalty decision which changed the match.

FriendlyFox · Sep 21, 2014

Sixpence said:
If Falcao's shot is an inch or 2 lower and doesn't hit the bar, the game is 4-1 and over. You lucked out there and then with the scandalous foul and resultant penalty decision which changed the match.

The penalty decision still only puts it a 2 - 3. It's a bad decision and was never a penalty, as I said before, but let's face it, that alone shouldn't be enough to decide the game. You were still in the lead, and still had a ridiculous amount of fire-power in your team. You lost because your team spontaneously collapsed and let us get back into the game. It's partially luck, but mostly shows either a poor mentality or poor tactical decisions. Even at 3 - 3, you could have still easily got back into the game, with the players that you have.

Also, Falcao's shot hitting the bar isn't "luck" - it's anything but. It hit the bar because it wasn't on target. He could have hit it lower, true, but he could also have hit it over. If you're claiming that, then I could ask well what if Andy Kings shot was one foot the other side of the post, or what if RVP's header hadn't taken a deflection of Liam Moore. It doesn't work like that.

I must say though, Di Maria looks a class above everyone else.

hbgreg · Sep 21, 2014

FoxInPeace said:
Good point lol

Good game anyway that both teams contributed to. Even though it was against us I'm looking forward to seeing Di Maria's goal again on motd2. Looked class in real time

If it was up to a certain player of yours, Di Maria would of been out of the game with an injury.

FriendlyFox · Sep 21, 2014

hbgreg said:
If it was up to a certain player of yours, Di Maria would of been out of the game with an injury.

De Laet was a liability in the first half, that much is true. He could have been off, though I think I would have felt slightly hard done by if that had happened.

Will have to watch the highlights and double check.

Smithy89 · Sep 21, 2014

Typical game raisers helped with our shocking defence and lacklustre midfield.

FriendlyFox · Sep 21, 2014

Smithy89 said:
Typical game raisers helped with our shocking defence and lacklustre midfield.

Game raisers? Not particularly. We came back against Everton twice, and came back against Arsenal. Both at Everton and Arsenal, we scored within 5 minutes of conceding.

I'd actually say your team panicked and lowered your game rather than us raising it.

82pence · Sep 21, 2014

Well what the hell happened there?! Glad I missed the game now. I had to settle for phone updates throughout. Sounded as though we played well and dominated for first hour, so what the feck went on in the last 30?

Smithy89 · Sep 21, 2014

82pence said:
Well what the hell happened there?! Glad I missed the game now. I had to settle for phone updates throughout. Sounded as though we played well and dominated for first hour, so what the feck went on in the last 30?

Ref, no leaders, awful defending, no cover from midfield and attackers generally not clicking imo

untitled_6899 · Sep 21, 2014

FriendlyFox said:
Game raisers? Not particularly. We came back against Everton twice, and came back against Arsenal. Both at Everton and Arsenal, we scored within 5 minutes of conceding.

I'd actually say your team panicked and lowered your game rather than us raising it.

I would have to agree. Leicester City went to Stamford Bridge and ran Chelsea very close until they scored two late goals. They played very well today but at 3-1 United should have taken some measure of control on the game and not allow such an easy way back in (and subsequent defeat).

Credit to them for playing so well today but United gave them tons of encouragement to get back in to the game.

Kill 'em all · Sep 21, 2014

This was a huge miss from our part, we could've caught up with all of our rivals with the bad results they've had.

Paul_Scholes18 · Sep 21, 2014

The big problem is we are so weak mentally. How much you miss SAF. We would need to clone him and get him back and I am not talking now about his son coming because that would be disaster.

Stookie · Sep 21, 2014

What isn't in doubt is the way momentum swung after the atrocious penalty decision. Without that, I fancied us getting more. Saying that, there are no excuses for the capitulation. Leicester were right up for it after the pen and used the swing of momentum well. United should not have let it get to them. Still, there are positives to take from the last two games we have played.

FriendlyFox · Sep 21, 2014

Stookie said:
What isn't in doubt is the way momentum swung after the atrocious penalty decision. Without that, I fancied us getting more. Saying that, there are no excuses for the capitulation. Leicester were right up for it after the pen and used the swing of momentum well. United should not have let it get to them. Still, there are positives to take from the last two games we have played.

I certainly agree, that penalty certainly rattled your players, and gave us the momentum - who knows how it could have gone if that hadn't happened.

I think you can take consolation that you certainly play more interesting/attacking football than you did under Moyes, but it's clear that you still need to invest hugely in your defense. Vidic was a big loss for you - Vardy certainly wouldn't have bullied him.

KiD MoYeS · Sep 21, 2014

Just looking back at the highlights, on another day we'd have scored six or seven, negating our shite defensive display. I think we'll be okay, we're moving in the right direction here. van Gaal has a lot to rectify don't forget, patience is key.

Smithy89 · Sep 21, 2014

KiD MoYeS said:
Just looking back at the highlights, on another day we'd have scored six or seven, negating our shite defensive display. I think we'll be okay, we're moving in the right direction here. van Gaal has a lot to rectify don't forget, patience is key.

But if this happens again and we happen to be playing chelsea or at anfield no matter how many we might scored we'll be getting mauled by them with that defensive/midfield display.

Paul_Scholes18 · Sep 21, 2014

KiD MoYeS said:
Just looking back at the highlights, on another day we'd have scored six or seven, negating our shite defensive display. I think we'll be okay, we're moving in the right direction here. van Gaal has a lot to rectify don't forget, patience is key.

We are already so far behind. I knew it could take time, but the idea was that we would be not so good at the start, but still get maybe 10-15 points out of the first 5 since we had so easy games and also go through in the cup. Now we have 5 points and are out of the cup and the big games will soon come and if we start to loose them also then we are rather in the relegation zone than at the top.

KiD MoYeS · Sep 21, 2014

Smithy89 said:
But if this happens again and we happen to be playing chelsea or at anfield no matter how many we might scored we'll be getting mauled by them with that defensive/midfield display.

We're always gonna lose some games as van Gaal rectifies this team. This is a fix up job first.

DomesticTadpole · Sep 21, 2014

KiD MoYeS said:
Just looking back at the highlights, on another day we'd have scored six or seven, negating our shite defensive display. I think we'll be okay, we're moving in the right direction here. van Gaal has a lot to rectify don't forget, patience is key.

I agree. I just think the players let their anger get the better of them. We need to keep a calm head. They now know that refs like nothing better than screwing United over. Hopefully they have learnt a harsh lesson.

Smithy89 · Sep 21, 2014

KiD MoYeS said:
We're always gonna lose some games as van Gaal rectifies this team. This is a fix up job first.

Need to get/keep jones fit and even carrick imo no matter how many critics carrick has, he showed a couple of seasons ago he is a calm head and can control a game.

Gazautd18 · Sep 21, 2014

Why the feck do I still feel sick to my stomach 6 1/2 hours after the final whistle?!!

ThanksBoss26 · Sep 21, 2014

Gazautd18 said:
Why the feck do I still feel sick to my stomach 6 1/2 hours after the final whistle?!!

You're not alone. So do I.

mani35 · Sep 21, 2014

I just can`t believe the scoreline today..
un...be...leiveable...

Salfordlad70 · Sep 21, 2014

Had to work today and so I have only had score updates from others due to my phone being knackered. Wtf happened anyone??

Smithy89 · Sep 21, 2014

ThanksBoss26 said:
You're not alone. So do I.

Been a while since i was this annoyed after a united game, probably the 4-4 with everton. Was rarely annoyed under moyes because i knew what to expect.

Paul_Scholes18 · Sep 21, 2014

Smithy89 said:
Been a while since i was this annoyed after a united game, probably the 4-4 with everton. Was rarely annoyed under moyes because i knew what to expect.

Yeah I started with very low expectations, but then when we got that 3-1 goal I was thinking maybe we can get some momentum going and finally get some run and then the disaster happens. We just seem to get no momentum and full confidence. QPR games seemed like one of many games last season when we have an odd game and hope we can get going then are shit next game.

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