So much wasted time and effort passing it sideways and backwards from the halfway line, don't mind that when we are controlling games or are ahead but its infuriating to watch when you are losing. The second CM position is dead with Fletcher occupying it, offers absolutely nothing, Di Maria at HT, no fecking about now.
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Aston Villa 1:1 Manchester United
Villa Park
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Yeah, we've controlled but are slow and lethargic both on and off the ball. Mata and Fletcher have been disastrous. Rooney has done well. Little service to the strikers as usual.Why do most matches we rely on our fullback crossing into the box, or the opposition making a mistake in the defence, ie loose balls
Whats the point of all the possession if youre going to pass backwards, at least try and make some chances, take long range shots when in good position, you cant just rely on passing ball into the goal from a full backs cross everytimeStarted off well enough, they got a goal out of nothing and since then they've defended and pressed us well. We're lacking Herreras creativity and pace with his passing in the middle more then anything I think. Di maria will hopefully come on in the second half, not sure for who.
We can probably afford to push Carrick up here as villa are just parking the bus pretty much.
without a pacy striker to stretch it, it must be quite comfy to hold a team playing this formation.
Typical Fellaini missed this game, as he'd have probably dealt with that high ball to Benteke in the first place.Sack LVG, sell Giggs.All possession no penetration whatsoever though.I'd take Fletcher off. Put Carrick in midfield and bring in Di Maria in there. 3-5-2 is an absolute joke. Everytime we play it we look shite.
They miss both him and Herrera, Fellaini's presence and Herrera to get the ball forward quickly. All this possession is fine if you actually do something with it.Thought Fletcher and Rooney were doing fine in midfield. Falcao,van Persie and especially Mata however need to do far more.jonny f***** evans need to get out of the pitch, also fletcher.We are trailing by a goal, but playing as if we are winning comfortably 2-0. Need to show a bit more urgency.Rubbish. It's a combination of players playing in wrong positions, injuries, and Fletcher being shite. Think we'll score 3 in the 2nd half though if Van Gaal pulls the plug on Fletch early.Just thought if we had Herrera instead of Fletcher we would be winning this already.
I expect Di Maria to come in for Fletcher in 15 minutes.
But they scored a beauty tbf.Enormously frustrating. Not quick enough, not penetrative enough. Decent possession, but little intent. Really think we need Di Maria on for Fletcher or even Mata, who've been pretty anonymous.
My worry is that the main bonus about the last 6 games is the winning mentality which was wholly lost last season and I've never really felt we've got it back..with a shit result today that'll take longer to rebuild.Our midfielders incapable of making a creative pass, no through balls unless they tried them in the air
which is food and drink for vlaar
everything very efficient but predictable
we need pace and dribblers, but more importantly we need more players to show some guts and attempt to beat a manHoly hell that was a boring half of football. Conceding early has totally killed the game, though you can hardly blame Villa for their strategy. Can't say that we've done much to quicken pace. Unfortunate to be trailing, in a way. Credit to Benteke for that finish. Changes needed in the second half, but I'm not sure when. You wouldn't think di Maria is fit enough to play more than half an hour and he's the one this game is crying out for.More shit football from us in this 5-3-2 formation.
Slow passing and absolutely no urgency. The players seem to be content on keeping the ball despite being down a goal. No penetration and no real chances created in an entire 45 minutes. The strikers just look starved of the ball.
Special mentions to Evans and Fletcher. Both have been woeful. Evans failing to deal with a routine cross into the box which led to benteke's goal. This guy will never make the grade at Manchester United and should not be anywhere near our first 11. I've been saying this for years now.
Fletcher just looks like someone who barely has played football and cant pick out a pass.
We are just playing cowardly football in which we are happy to keep it in the centre circle where we are of no threat. We also shit ourselves when our backline passes the ball out of defence.
I wish we would stop giving so much respect to this villa side which is frankly average at best. We should be pummelling them with crosses and runs into the box.LVG can you tell Vlaar that we will give him a better contract if he scores some Own Goals this game.Carrick to midfield and McNair at the back please. Just cant watch more of Fletcher. It's just too much.Di Maria would change everythingThis is hard to watch. We don't have any midfield tokay at all. Fletcher only there to pass the ball to Rooney and Evans has chances to drive forward but he can't or don't know how to pass to the forwards rather play it to Rooney or Young. Basically, everything goes through Rooney.Carrick should be pushed up-Fletch off-he's behind the pace on Villa's counter and offers little goimg forward.- Evans was so useless, Mata making a lot of runs and he's just so scared of passing
- Need better movement off the ball
- Need more urgency and pace
Vllar schooling our CB's. Evans is a complete joke.
No creativeity, no midfield, just cross it in.
SHIT!Take off Fletcher and Mata, and bring on Rafael and Di Maria. 442 diamond, please!
De Gea
Rafael - Jones - Evans - Young
Carrick
Valencia - Di Maria
Rooney
Van Persie - Falcao
Of course I am, but I don't waste good tea on limp counter attacks. Tea only gets thrown once Jonny Evans passes it to the opposition striker, and I always have a cup ready for that before the match starts.
That's what boggles my mind all the time. How can other teams play quick, direct football while we seem to take ages to move the ball a few yards forward. Even a shit team like Villa counters very quickly and makes use of the space available. We don't seem able to do this anymore. I'm asking myself if it's just the lack of pace or if they're under these instructions from LVG.
Stop spelling like a 9 year old.squeaky bum time 2nd half!!
We said that about when McNair played against Lukaku.
No we didnt, no one said it. stop lying you bitchEVANS = TERRIBLE
FLETCHER = TERRIBLE
as we all knew would be the case. They both need to improve alot 2nd half
This is how we've been playing all season. It seems possession means more than anything else. Winning is always a welcome bonus.What the hell was that...... we are playing like we're wining 4-0.. absolutely pathetic that was I literally almost smashed my tv.
Haha I dont think its philosophy, just most of our players arent technically very good, its not a coincidence our best passing, and play came when herrera, mata, di maria and blind where in midfield in 1 match, back at the very startCarrick is being wasted in defense, he should move to midfield with Di Maria coming instead of Fletcher. We have possesion but dont really know what to do with it. Our lines arent connected well in the attack, there is a big hole between the midfield and the attack and RVP and Falcao arent getting any service up front.
If we loose to this Villa side I'll be gutted cause they're just awful.Completely abject performance truth be told. Need an injection of pace not only in our movement and pace, but our intensity and passing too.
AdM on for Mata for the 2nd half please and Rafael for Fletcher if there are no immediate signs of improvement. Would see us revert back to the diamond.Fletcher poor. Evans poor. Jones poor. Carrick dosnt belong at CB. Di maria and Rafael need come inn.It will be okay. If not, you can all blame me.3 strikers on the field and no decent shot on goal.Had a feeling about this game, you could see it coming a mile off to be honest.
I was trying to be polite
That's the biggest disadvantage of no European football, fringe players become languorous.- Status
Man of the Match
Runners-up
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25%
Radamel Falcao
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12%
Michael Carrick
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7%
David de Gea
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5%
Wayne Rooney
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2%
Phil Jones
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1%
James Wilson
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1%
Antonio Valencia
Player Ratings
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Compiled from 425 ratings.
Score Predictions
676,35,38
- Man Utd win
- Aston Villa win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 21% Aston Villa 0:2 Man Utd
- 18% Aston Villa 1:3 Man Utd
- 17% Aston Villa 0:3 Man Utd
- 14% Aston Villa 1:2 Man Utd
- 8% Aston Villa 0:4 Man Utd
- 6% Aston Villa 1:4 Man Utd
- 3% Aston Villa 0:5 Man Utd
- 3% Aston Villa 1:1 Man Utd
- 2% Aston Villa 0:1 Man Utd
- 1% Aston Villa 2:3 Man Utd
- 1% Aston Villa 0:0 Man Utd
- 1% Aston Villa 2:1 Man Utd
- 1% Aston Villa 2:0 Man Utd
- 1% Aston Villa 2:2 Man Utd
- 1% Aston Villa 3:0 Man Utd
- 1% Aston Villa 1:5 Man Utd
- 1% Aston Villa 1:0 Man Utd
- 0% Aston Villa 4:0 Man Utd
- 0% Aston Villa 5:0 Man Utd
- 0% Aston Villa 3:2 Man Utd
- 0% Aston Villa 3:3 Man Utd
- 0% Aston Villa 4:4 Man Utd
- 0% Aston Villa 2:4 Man Utd
- 0% Aston Villa 3:1 Man Utd
Match Stats
- Aston Villa
- Man Utd
- Possession
- 35% 65%
- Shots
- 10 16
- Shots on Target
- 4 9
- Corners
- 3 9
- Fouls
- 9 10
Referee
Lee Mason
Man Utd Lineup
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replaced by James Wilson
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replaced by Tyler Blackett
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replaced by Angel Di Maria
