As assured starters I agree. But they. especially Fletcher, will be crucial for our squad.
Nuri Sahin
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Gibson, agreed, he is to slow and probably has no future.
Fletcher - world class defensive midfielder! Great stamina, he just go and go and go, he will be a vital player in our future for sure. We saw how much we missed him in the 2009 final. He is a great defensive midfielder, his passes are getting better too. He has been one of our most important player the past couple of seasons. He has the worst season in a long time, but he is a great player and I hope that he stays for a long time
I like Fletcher too - don't want him to leave. Not totally sure he should be a first team regular though, certainly not on current form.
Same goes for Carrick. IMO those 2 need serious competion to return to their best. A soon to retire Scholes, perma crock Hargreaves, unlucky Anderson and the unspectacular and inexperience Gibson just don't cut it as ''spark a reaction in them'' material at the minute.
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Borussia Dortmund's Nuri Sahin has an offer from Real Madrid, according to "Bild". He has a 6m € buy-out clause in his contract.
€6M Buy-out clause? Surely not!?
Borussia Dortmund's Nuri Sahin has an offer from Real Madrid, according to "Bild". He has a 6m € buy-out clause in his contract.
€6M Buy-out clause? Surely not!?
It doesn't get much more "value" than this - sign. him. up.
quite shocked to hear that Nuri Sahin has a €6m buy-out clause. perfect ball player to play along side Carrick, an absolute bargain. #mufc
I cant believe that clause is true, as apparently Dortmund have put a hold on talks over a new deal.
If your best player had such a clause you'd rush through a new deal even if you were looking to sell him in the summer
If your best player had such a clause you'd rush through a new deal even if you were looking to sell him in the summer
Especially if you were looking to sell, I'd say.
Perhaps they did rush through a new deal but Sahin having already had offers was reluctant to sign it?
Yeah, I'd agree with that. They'd give him the earth even to bump the clause to €25m if that was the case, and sell him before they started shelling out the big bucks.
Why would they have let it get to this point though?
You can't be serious! Sahin with a buyout clause of just £6m?
fecking Madrid. They want everyone as usual. They won't even play him often. He will surely be a bench warmer.
Pretty much. Mourinho always wants a backup for each of his starting position. He has none for Alonso.
I don't know what we waiting for you. If it's 6m we need to snap him up asap.
If the fee is really 6m it'll be another Sneidjer/Van der Vaart/Özil bargain gone a miss
He could play with Alonso and is better offensively than him. One thing he definitely wouldnt be is a backup for him
We can always buy him when Valdano/Perez get tired of the German experiment like they did the Dutch one.
He has so much cover for his midfield. They hardly use them. They have enough playmakers in that squad so Diarra is a good backup for Alonso.
Nah. Doesn't fit Mourinho. He already has Özil in front of Alonso. Can't have two deep playmakers and then another one in front of them.
Alonso is Spanish. A passing maestro. He's very much needed in Real. You can see the difference in the team when he isn't there.
Alonso does the main defensive job for Real Madrid. Kedeira does the running in front of him and supports the attack. Sure he's combative and puts tackles in but Alonso is sitting and its Kedeira in front of him
Sahin could absolutely be deployed next to him as Sahin, like Alonso, has both defensive and offensive qualities. He's not as good defensively as Alonso is for Madrid, but he proved to me that he can put in some very good tackles when Dortmund played Bayern. He had a spell where he was making good tackles every couple of minutes and stopping Bayern getting back into the game.
And offensively he will assist as much as Alonso, but also score more goals. This is a player who at a top team will flourish into one of the top midfielders in the world. Better than Alonso, catching up towards the Fabregas and Iniestas. But they wouldnt have to compete for one place.
As for Mourinho, we've already seen him use Kaka as one of a midfield 3. He isnt always negative. Not with the players he has at Madrid
Compared to that this wouldnt even be a risk
I think I read the rumors else where that it was Inter who made the first bid at around 20m so I don't think 6m would get Sahin.
If Real sell both Diarra's and Gago, it wouldn't be a surprise if they'd want Sahin as back-up for Khedira/Alonso.
If Real sell both Diarra's and Gago, it wouldn't be a surprise if they'd want Sahin as back-up for Khedira/Alonso.
Sahin has Bender next to him. Alonso has Khedira next to him. That's why they work so well. Cut Khedira or or Bender out of the picture and you have yourself a bit of liability. Especially considering the full backs Real use. They both go forward a lot.
Özil, Ronaldo, Higuain/Benzema, Di Maria/someone.
I don't see
Sahin...Alonso
Di Mario..Özil..Ronaldo
Higauin
It's very exposed. Even with all the discipline Mourinho has added it still lacks some.
Khedira just fits Mourinho's bill as a starter. He also has height for defensive set pieces. Can't see him being cut. Not as a regular.
Not a Chance. He'd relegate Khedeira to being Alonso's cover.
The 6m EUR buy-out clause was confirmed by reliable German source 'kicker' just a couple of weeks ago. He'd be a bargain if there ever was one. De Gea and Sahin this summer and we're sorted for ages...
If that clause its true we really should hunt for him.
This will be Ozil all over again. A player that we could really use, available for a very good price and we probably won't even try for him.
I'm surprised we have not been linked with him this season, given he is exactly the type of player we need.
If the player is determined to for Real Madrid and they're determined to sign him then yeah, you can see the similarity with Ozil.
We were never in for Ozil imo. Fergie said he wanted one player who was always going to join someone else and from his quotes it was much more probable that it was Villa than Ozil.
Dortmund apparently have Ilkay Gündogan, Nuremberg's current playmaker, lined up as Sahin's possible replacement.
Why cant we get him for that, we've paid 7mils for Bebe ffs
From what you have just said it sounds exactly like it was Ozil!
We were linked with him earlier this season. How is he doing atm?
Sahin has so much talent, but for me he tries the Hollywood ball too often. His decision making isn't great, but he is still quite young, and can become a very good midfielder.
He has really done well, considering his injury problems this year - scored five goals and set up another three in 21 Bundesliga matches.
He's good neat technique, a good shot on him and can pass a ball or two - certainly ready for the next step; Dortmund that is, not United.
I don't really remember exactly what he said, but it was quite clear that it was actually Villa that he was after.
Something like that the player who we wanted joined his club really soon (which Villa did, Ozil didn't) and that we had no other targets after that.
He mentioned Villa by name and hinted we were looking at him but that he was always Barca bound.
Said his name and everything:
Fergie said:
Sir Alex Ferguson was interested in David Villa deal - ESPN Soccernet