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Real 'won't intefere' with Ron
President Calderon plays the waiting game over summer capture
By James Dall Last updated: 22nd June 2008
Ronaldo: Calderon interest
Real Madrid president Ramon Calderon has insisted the Spanish giants 'will not interfere' with Manchester United over the future of Cristiano Ronaldo.
The Primera Division champions' much-publicised interest in Ronaldo has culminated in the transfer story of the summer with the Portugal international remaining coy over his future at Old Trafford.
Ronaldo is expected to announce his intentions within the next 48 hours, with reports speculating that he will express his desire to leave the Premier League and UEFA Champions League holders.
United have already reported Real to Fifa over their pursuit of the winger however, in a fresh twist, Calderon has stressed the club will not 'create any problems' for the Old Trafford side until they have the green light to formally approach the player.
Make a move
"We will not make a move until the team (Manchester United) says they want to sell the player," said Calderon. "Right now they are saying the contrary and there's little we can do.
"Once Ronaldo announces his future and once his club accept to sell him then we would have talks.
"Right now, he is a player of Manchester United and we will not interfere or create any problems.
"Ronaldo is under contract with another team and we cannot think about him but focus on the players we have."
Signings
Calderon went on to explain that Real will not be making wholesale changes over the summer.
"We will not even make two signings," he added. "We have a young team.
"We have made 19 signings in the last two years and what we really want is for the team that we have to consolidate itself.
"We have young players, who will grow and that is our hope"
What a joke. They've already done their dirty work. Now they're waiting on Ron to make the next move by asking for a transfer. Calderon acting all angelic, like....hypocritical cnuts
President Calderon plays the waiting game over summer capture
By James Dall Last updated: 22nd June 2008
Ronaldo: Calderon interestReal Madrid president Ramon Calderon has insisted the Spanish giants 'will not interfere' with Manchester United over the future of Cristiano Ronaldo.
The Primera Division champions' much-publicised interest in Ronaldo has culminated in the transfer story of the summer with the Portugal international remaining coy over his future at Old Trafford.
Ronaldo is expected to announce his intentions within the next 48 hours, with reports speculating that he will express his desire to leave the Premier League and UEFA Champions League holders.
United have already reported Real to Fifa over their pursuit of the winger however, in a fresh twist, Calderon has stressed the club will not 'create any problems' for the Old Trafford side until they have the green light to formally approach the player.
Make a move
"We will not make a move until the team (Manchester United) says they want to sell the player," said Calderon. "Right now they are saying the contrary and there's little we can do.
"Once Ronaldo announces his future and once his club accept to sell him then we would have talks.
"Right now, he is a player of Manchester United and we will not interfere or create any problems.
"Ronaldo is under contract with another team and we cannot think about him but focus on the players we have."
Signings
Calderon went on to explain that Real will not be making wholesale changes over the summer.
"We will not even make two signings," he added. "We have a young team.
"We have made 19 signings in the last two years and what we really want is for the team that we have to consolidate itself.
"We have young players, who will grow and that is our hope"
What a joke. They've already done their dirty work. Now they're waiting on Ron to make the next move by asking for a transfer. Calderon acting all angelic, like....hypocritical cnuts
He seems to genuinely love Arsenal as well
You're right he is a class act.... can still be a bit of a cnut at times though
Playin for arsenal makes you a bit of a cnut automatically. something in the water down there. But you gotta admire the kid
How you can dislike Cristiano but love Ruud god only knows
It's impossible not to have liked Ruud. He could rip my face off, rape it, then piss all over it, and I'd still love him.
With Ronaldo, I constantly find myself defending his attitude to people, whilst secretly thinking they have a point, and all he seems to do is constantly back that point up. He's now chosen to do that by publicly declaring he doesn't want to play for United. Which means the part of me that wants to defend him, isn't really there anymore
Congrats to whoever got the 10k post.
That too.
Well he did hold talks with Real Madrid last summer behind Wenger's back.
Decided to stay straight after though
I have to agree with you on this one. I'm always defending him while deep down wishing he'd change the things that people hate about him. now I dont have the desire to do that anymore. I cant put my heart into defending a player that has behaved and said the things he has. and I dont remember feeling like that about a united player before
players or their agents are always talking to other clubs. they are always sounding out options. everyone knows that goes on. very few of them behave as badly as Christiano though. and Fabregas did'nt. as i said he will probably go sometime but I get the feeling he will leave the arsenal fans with a better taste in the mouth
ruud loved this club , that was obvious ... roanaldo clearly loves his own reflection has no class
Me neither.
Its never happened before, that's probably why.
It's quite easy not to like Ruud considering even to this day when asked he speaks about how hard it was to leave UTD even though SAF has confirmed on at least 2 times Ruud requested a transfer away from the club 2 years before he was eventually sold - two faced lying cnut!
Not disputing why you dislike Cristiano mind although all I will say is there's a difference between wanting to join another club and not wanting to play again for your current club and so far all Ronnie has done is said he wants to play for Madrid which we've all known is the case since the second he signed 5 years ago
bolllocks...asked to leave on 3 separate occasions before fergie let him go.
you can tell by his attitude and demeanor on the pitch. besides his first 2 years at united, he likes his time in la liga/spain more.
Understatement that, he's been utter shit during these euros.
that's why he stayed to celebrate when we won the mickey mouse cup and didn't walk off throwing a hissy fit.
Throwing a hissy fit every time he was dropped, not joining in the celebrations for the carling cup final, asking for a transfer three times, slagging of SAF as soon as he left and saying 'Man Utd are good but Real Madrid are the best team in the world and on another level' as soon as he left doesn't sound like somebody who loved the club to me.
I remember when we one the title last year, Ruud and Beckham interrupted a Real press conference in order to break the news to each other. He clearly loved, and still does love the club. Where as Ronaldo now happily spits on the club if it means getting his way
i hated being dropped too , he always gave his all ... anyway i'm not getting involved in this ... ronaldo has behaved questionably at best
Bottlers win
Worst team in the competition are out.
Worst team in the competition are out.
russian should rip the paellatwats.
russia blitzed spain the first 15 mins and hit the post. if that went in, it would be a different match.
german-russia final.
Lets agree to disagree then because a player who loved the club wouldn't ask for a transfer away from it on two separate occasions especially one of those times being right before an FA Cup final.
Becks now there's someone who loves the club
Guys what is more important for you, United's success or a player's respect? Remember United>any player. That should answer this question and why we should keep Ronaldo at all costs.
Becks asked for a transfer a good few months before he was sold.
Ruud's alternative was to behave like Ronaldo has decided to. He probably had too much respect for the club to do that though, so squared it with Sir Alex instead, like a grown up
Ruud's alternative was to behave like Ronaldo has decided to. He probably had too much respect for the club to do that though, so squared it with Sir Alex instead, like a grown up
Fergie cannot come back from his holiday soon enough. If there is one person who can bring a resolution to this saga, its him.
Real Madrid melons are already on their way to Old Trafford:
Having spoken to fellow reds in work, older reds
We all agree he's a horrible cnut and must leave
We all agree he's a horrible cnut and must leave
That MEN story is crap. Villa is better than Berbatov. Spurs would be laughing to the bank with that deal.
No, let the buggers (including Ronaldo) sweat. Come back when your holiday is over Sir Alex.
France went out a while ago...
Bingo!
Well done Brad
Why thank you Sults!
Aaah, there's nothing better than shafting a muppet all ends up! Hook the bait and wait for the catch...
So basically, they have done what they needed to do to turn his head, and now the stupid cnuts are gonna watch while he does the inevitable and then play the innocent
Totally agree. Fergie has kept beautifully quiet throughout this entire process. The press have made out that Ronaldo has 'snubbed' Fergie on a number of occasions, yet there has been no actual indication of this. If anything, Fergie has just been chilling in France, letting the whole saga unfold.
One thing is for sure, Ronaldo is on a hiding to nothing if he thinks that he can outmaneuver Fergie. He'll come back to Carrington and show that sniveling cnut who's boss.
Ramón Calderón stokes fire over Cristiano Ronaldo moveOliver Kay
Ramón Calderón, the Real Madrid president, has again invited the wrath of Manchester United by urging Cristiano Ronaldo not to weaken his resolve in the face of Sir Alex Ferguson’s fierce opposition to the forward’s proposed transfer to Spain.
Ronaldo is expected to issue a statement today or tomorrow to confirm his intention to move to Madrid and to plead with United to allow him to pursue his “dream” after five years’ loyal service, but Ferguson, who is on holiday in France, is unswerving in his stance that United will not sell and that the player’s dream will remain in the realms of fantasy.
Ferguson has so far avoided all temptation to speak directly to Ronaldo and maintains that he will not do so until he has returned to work next Monday or until the player makes the first move. To Real’s delight, the stand-off is adding to the tension between player and manager, with Ronaldo publicly urged by Calderón yesterday to remain strong.
“If the kid keeps himself in that strong position, the step he has taken [in expressing his wish to join Real] could be key,” Calderón said. “As we have already said many times, it is a problem between Manchester United and the player. If the two resolve the situation and Manchester United want to call us, then we will be happy and delighted with that because Cristiano is a great player. We can’t say anything more. We only talk about our own players – and Cristiano is Manchester United’s.”
The last statement would cause hilarity at Old Trafford were it not for the gravity of the situation. United have already made a formal complaint to Fifa, football’s governing body, about Real’s behaviour and their persistent and highly successful attempts to unsettle Ronaldo. Although United accept that there is no hard evidence of the illegal approach that they firmly suspect, they believe that repeated comments from Calderón, Bernd Schuster, the coach, and others at Real represent a concerted attempt to undermine the relationship between Ronaldo and his club, which is now close to breaking point.
Schuster was at it again yesterday, saying that Real should be prepared to pay whatever it takes – which is likely to mean a transfer fee in excess of £70 million and wages of £150,000 after tax – to sign Ronaldo. “For a player of this level, we must pay what is necessary,” Schuster said. “For us, what is most important is to win the Champions League and he can help us achieve that. But we understand that, when a club has a player of such quality, they don’t want to let him go.”
Ferguson’s mood will not be helped by renewed uncertainty over the future of his assistant, Carlos Queiroz, who is a contender to succeed Luiz Felipe Scolari as coach of the Portugal national team. There are other candidates, including José Pekerman, the former Argentina coach, and Zico, who recently left Fenerbahçe, but Queiroz, who would be happy to stay at Old Trafford if he were given assurances that he is in pole position to be United’s next manager when Ferguson retires, appears pleased to be associated with the Portugal vacancy. “It gives me great pleasure that my name is linked,” Queiroz said when approached by a Portuguese newspaper. “Have I been asked? I will make no comment.”
There has been little good news for United since they lifted the European Cup in Moscow on May 21 – a match that Ronaldo is adamant will be his last for the club – but, contrary to reports yesterday, they are expected to secure the long-term future of Carlos Tévez. The Argentina forward is said to be concerned that talks have not started over an extension to his loan arrangement, which runs until next summer, but United officials say that this will be addressed soon.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/manchester_united/article4193500.ece
Ramón Calderón, the Real Madrid president, has again invited the wrath of Manchester United by urging Cristiano Ronaldo not to weaken his resolve in the face of Sir Alex Ferguson’s fierce opposition to the forward’s proposed transfer to Spain.
Ronaldo is expected to issue a statement today or tomorrow to confirm his intention to move to Madrid and to plead with United to allow him to pursue his “dream” after five years’ loyal service, but Ferguson, who is on holiday in France, is unswerving in his stance that United will not sell and that the player’s dream will remain in the realms of fantasy.
Ferguson has so far avoided all temptation to speak directly to Ronaldo and maintains that he will not do so until he has returned to work next Monday or until the player makes the first move. To Real’s delight, the stand-off is adding to the tension between player and manager, with Ronaldo publicly urged by Calderón yesterday to remain strong.
“If the kid keeps himself in that strong position, the step he has taken [in expressing his wish to join Real] could be key,” Calderón said. “As we have already said many times, it is a problem between Manchester United and the player. If the two resolve the situation and Manchester United want to call us, then we will be happy and delighted with that because Cristiano is a great player. We can’t say anything more. We only talk about our own players – and Cristiano is Manchester United’s.”
The last statement would cause hilarity at Old Trafford were it not for the gravity of the situation. United have already made a formal complaint to Fifa, football’s governing body, about Real’s behaviour and their persistent and highly successful attempts to unsettle Ronaldo. Although United accept that there is no hard evidence of the illegal approach that they firmly suspect, they believe that repeated comments from Calderón, Bernd Schuster, the coach, and others at Real represent a concerted attempt to undermine the relationship between Ronaldo and his club, which is now close to breaking point.
Schuster was at it again yesterday, saying that Real should be prepared to pay whatever it takes – which is likely to mean a transfer fee in excess of £70 million and wages of £150,000 after tax – to sign Ronaldo. “For a player of this level, we must pay what is necessary,” Schuster said. “For us, what is most important is to win the Champions League and he can help us achieve that. But we understand that, when a club has a player of such quality, they don’t want to let him go.”
Ferguson’s mood will not be helped by renewed uncertainty over the future of his assistant, Carlos Queiroz, who is a contender to succeed Luiz Felipe Scolari as coach of the Portugal national team. There are other candidates, including José Pekerman, the former Argentina coach, and Zico, who recently left Fenerbahçe, but Queiroz, who would be happy to stay at Old Trafford if he were given assurances that he is in pole position to be United’s next manager when Ferguson retires, appears pleased to be associated with the Portugal vacancy. “It gives me great pleasure that my name is linked,” Queiroz said when approached by a Portuguese newspaper. “Have I been asked? I will make no comment.”
There has been little good news for United since they lifted the European Cup in Moscow on May 21 – a match that Ronaldo is adamant will be his last for the club – but, contrary to reports yesterday, they are expected to secure the long-term future of Carlos Tévez. The Argentina forward is said to be concerned that talks have not started over an extension to his loan arrangement, which runs until next summer, but United officials say that this will be addressed soon.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/manchester_united/article4193500.ece
feck of Calderon
I reckon majority are now coming round to believe Ronaldo is a c**t.
Better late, and all that...
Better late, and all that...
what a nice picture:
feck OFF Calderon
He's contracted to United but they keep talking about him non stop. FIFA is deaf and blind or what?
has anyone else read this ? sorry if it was posted in the preceeding 10,000 posts
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/06/21/why_united_should_let_this_ego.html
Why United should let this ego walk off to Madrid
Ronaldo's sound bites have become increasingly strategic, as if he thinks we cannot see what he is doing
Daniel Taylor
June 21, 2008 12:54 AM
First of all a little story to tell you what kind of man we are talking about. It is January 9, 2008, and in an upstairs room at Manchester United's training ground five elderly men in smart blazers are struggling with their emotions in front of a hushed audience. It is the club's media day building up to the 50th anniversary of the Munich air disaster and Sir Bobby Charlton's polite smile does not hide the fact he is trembling as he takes his seat. Bill Foulkes is straight-backed and dignified but only a couple of questions have been asked before the tears appear in his eyes and he reaches for a glass of water.
In an adjacent room Wayne Rooney has agreed to offer a modern-day perspective of that seminal day when 23 people, including eight members of Sir Matt Busby's team, were killed in the wreckage of the burnt-out BEA Elizabethan. It is not his specialist subject but he handles the occasion with dignity and more eloquence than some people might imagine. But then Cristiano Ronaldo comes through the double doors and the mood is broken.
He is wearing a white suit jacket and ripped jeans, looking every bit the boy-band hunk, but it is very obvious he is in a bad mood. He begins by berating Karen Shotbolt, the club's press officer, because he is waiting for Rooney and the event has over-run. He is banging his watch with his hand, flapping his arms and gesturing in the way that Portuguese footballers usually reserve for fussy referees and, at first, he is so animated it appears as if it might be a wind-up.
When he flounces back through the doors, cursing loudly, it is very obvious he is being deadly serious. Rooney is professional enough to carry on with his tribute but the attention is no longer exclusively on him. Thirty seconds later Ronaldo appears again, first rapping his forefinger against the glass in the door, then opening it by a fraction and starting to whistle at Rooney in the way that a farmer beckons his sheepdog.
It was such an unpleasant scene the journalists decided not to write about it because we had been invited to the training ground to cover a far more important subject and, when you have sat with men as noble as Charlton, Foulkes, Albert Scanlon, Harry Gregg and Kenny Morgans and seen the hurt in their eyes, it felt incongruous to veer off-track. But coming away from Carrington that day it was difficult not to wonder what had become of the pimply teenager with the braces on his teeth who had been photographed, in his first few weeks as a United player, holding hands with his mother, Dolores, as they crossed a busy Manchester street.
The answer, of course, is that Ronaldo has fallen in love with his own reflection and, as United are currently finding out, that ego is in danger of spiralling out of control. Nor, sadly, is this story a one-off. One member of staff at Old Trafford reports being shocked by his rudeness when sorting out his travel arrangements for a club trip last season. And then there was last season's Football Writers' Association's annual dinner when, with barely any notice, its player of the year demanded that space was made for five of his friends to attend and that he would like them all to be on the top table with him. He got his way, as superstars often do, but the organisers were unimpressed, to say the least.
This is not to say that Ronaldo is all bad. He won a court case against the Sun earlier this week after it was reported that he had been fined for breaking club rules by using his phone during training: a story that was obvious baloney to anyone who has followed the player's career. Ronaldo, in many ways, is the consummate professional when it comes to improving himself on the pitch. He is not a man for nightclubs or raucous evenings out among the Manchester glitterati and there is something deeply impressive about the way he has come from his humble beginnings, growing up in Madeira in a house so small the washing machine was on the roof, to become the most penetrative attacking footballer in the world.
And yet United's more loyal and thoughtful supporters would by now be entitled to think it would be better for Sir Alex Ferguson and the Glazer family to end this shabby saga and let the previously unthinkable happen. To them, his constant prevaricating about his future, his flirting with the Spanish media and his apparent disregard for Manchester United, must smack of a man who has started to think he is bigger than the club.
His sound bites have become increasingly strategic, as if he thinks we cannot see what he is doing, yet nobody will have been surprised that the sweat had barely dried on his brow after Portugal's defeat by Germany on Thursday before he had re-iterated his desire to leave Old Trafford - just as Real Madrid had requested. United insist they will not allow themselves to be bullied into a corner but, when a player is acting like this and would so obviously be resentful and unsettled if he is denied the transfer he craves, the question should be: what is the point in keeping him?
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/06/21/why_united_should_let_this_ego.html
Why United should let this ego walk off to Madrid
Ronaldo's sound bites have become increasingly strategic, as if he thinks we cannot see what he is doing
Daniel Taylor
June 21, 2008 12:54 AM
First of all a little story to tell you what kind of man we are talking about. It is January 9, 2008, and in an upstairs room at Manchester United's training ground five elderly men in smart blazers are struggling with their emotions in front of a hushed audience. It is the club's media day building up to the 50th anniversary of the Munich air disaster and Sir Bobby Charlton's polite smile does not hide the fact he is trembling as he takes his seat. Bill Foulkes is straight-backed and dignified but only a couple of questions have been asked before the tears appear in his eyes and he reaches for a glass of water.
In an adjacent room Wayne Rooney has agreed to offer a modern-day perspective of that seminal day when 23 people, including eight members of Sir Matt Busby's team, were killed in the wreckage of the burnt-out BEA Elizabethan. It is not his specialist subject but he handles the occasion with dignity and more eloquence than some people might imagine. But then Cristiano Ronaldo comes through the double doors and the mood is broken.
He is wearing a white suit jacket and ripped jeans, looking every bit the boy-band hunk, but it is very obvious he is in a bad mood. He begins by berating Karen Shotbolt, the club's press officer, because he is waiting for Rooney and the event has over-run. He is banging his watch with his hand, flapping his arms and gesturing in the way that Portuguese footballers usually reserve for fussy referees and, at first, he is so animated it appears as if it might be a wind-up.
When he flounces back through the doors, cursing loudly, it is very obvious he is being deadly serious. Rooney is professional enough to carry on with his tribute but the attention is no longer exclusively on him. Thirty seconds later Ronaldo appears again, first rapping his forefinger against the glass in the door, then opening it by a fraction and starting to whistle at Rooney in the way that a farmer beckons his sheepdog.
It was such an unpleasant scene the journalists decided not to write about it because we had been invited to the training ground to cover a far more important subject and, when you have sat with men as noble as Charlton, Foulkes, Albert Scanlon, Harry Gregg and Kenny Morgans and seen the hurt in their eyes, it felt incongruous to veer off-track. But coming away from Carrington that day it was difficult not to wonder what had become of the pimply teenager with the braces on his teeth who had been photographed, in his first few weeks as a United player, holding hands with his mother, Dolores, as they crossed a busy Manchester street.
The answer, of course, is that Ronaldo has fallen in love with his own reflection and, as United are currently finding out, that ego is in danger of spiralling out of control. Nor, sadly, is this story a one-off. One member of staff at Old Trafford reports being shocked by his rudeness when sorting out his travel arrangements for a club trip last season. And then there was last season's Football Writers' Association's annual dinner when, with barely any notice, its player of the year demanded that space was made for five of his friends to attend and that he would like them all to be on the top table with him. He got his way, as superstars often do, but the organisers were unimpressed, to say the least.
This is not to say that Ronaldo is all bad. He won a court case against the Sun earlier this week after it was reported that he had been fined for breaking club rules by using his phone during training: a story that was obvious baloney to anyone who has followed the player's career. Ronaldo, in many ways, is the consummate professional when it comes to improving himself on the pitch. He is not a man for nightclubs or raucous evenings out among the Manchester glitterati and there is something deeply impressive about the way he has come from his humble beginnings, growing up in Madeira in a house so small the washing machine was on the roof, to become the most penetrative attacking footballer in the world.
And yet United's more loyal and thoughtful supporters would by now be entitled to think it would be better for Sir Alex Ferguson and the Glazer family to end this shabby saga and let the previously unthinkable happen. To them, his constant prevaricating about his future, his flirting with the Spanish media and his apparent disregard for Manchester United, must smack of a man who has started to think he is bigger than the club.
His sound bites have become increasingly strategic, as if he thinks we cannot see what he is doing, yet nobody will have been surprised that the sweat had barely dried on his brow after Portugal's defeat by Germany on Thursday before he had re-iterated his desire to leave Old Trafford - just as Real Madrid had requested. United insist they will not allow themselves to be bullied into a corner but, when a player is acting like this and would so obviously be resentful and unsettled if he is denied the transfer he craves, the question should be: what is the point in keeping him?
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