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He's contracted to United but they keep talking about him non stop. FIFA is deaf and blind or what?
Fifa hates United and love Madrid.
He's contracted to United but they keep talking about him non stop. FIFA is deaf and blind or what?
There is no way tapping a player could be proved. That's the whole point of it.
Maybe not tapping up but it's very strange how RM like to talk about other players (Kaka, Ronaldo etc)
Becks asked for a transfer a good few months before he was sold.
Ruud's alternative was to behave like Ronaldo has decided to. He probably had too much respect for the club to do that though, so squared it with Sir Alex instead, like a grown up
Shocking story, haven't read it before. Won't make him popular amongst fans, if it's true that is. It reminded me of when we were going to collect our CL trophy and Ronaldo pets Sir Bobby on the head, like a father does to his son. Seemed a bit condescending and awkward, which you could see in Bobby's facial expression as well. Maybe he had January 8th in his head..has anyone else read this ? sorry if it was posted in the preceeding 10,000 posts
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/06/21/why_united_should_let_this_ego.html
Why United should let this ego walk off to Madrid
Ronaldo's sound bites have become increasingly strategic, as if he thinks we cannot see what he is doing
Daniel Taylor
June 21, 2008 12:54 AM
Shocking story, haven't read it before. Won't make him popular amongst fans. It reminded me of when we were going to collect our CL trophy and Ronaldo pets Sir Bobby on the head, like a father does to his son. Seemed a bit condescending and awkward, which you could see in Bobby's facial expression as well. Maybe he had January 8th in his head..
I know it might be picky, I just didn't like that moment particularly much. Of course Ronnie didn't mean anything by it, it's just the arrogance that kind of annoys me.Oh for the love of god I've read it all now
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The thing is, Real Madrid have always done this and will always continue to. This year they're working their evil hoodoo on Ronaldo, and they'll get their way. He'll be a Madrid player come August most likely.
What's most annoying is that they'll do it again, as they've done it before. Not content with unsettling and then taking Ronaldo, they'll bitch-slap Milan and steal Kaká. They do it to every major club in the world, because they genuinly seem to feel that it's their God-given right to do so.
Who's to say that they won't be back in three years doing the exact same thing to Nani, or Fabregas at Arsenal? It'll anger me whenever I see them doing it from now on; even if it's shafting our rivals, and not us.
has anyone else read this ? sorry if it was posted in the preceeding 10,000 posts
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/06/21/why_united_should_let_this_ego.html
Why United should let this ego walk off to Madrid
Ronaldo's sound bites have become increasingly strategic, as if he thinks we cannot see what he is doing
Daniel Taylor
June 21, 2008 12:54 AM
First of all a little story to tell you what kind of man we are talking about. It is January 9, 2008, and in an upstairs room at Manchester United's training ground five elderly men in smart blazers are struggling with their emotions in front of a hushed audience. It is the club's media day building up to the 50th anniversary of the Munich air disaster and Sir Bobby Charlton's polite smile does not hide the fact he is trembling as he takes his seat. Bill Foulkes is straight-backed and dignified but only a couple of questions have been asked before the tears appear in his eyes and he reaches for a glass of water.
In an adjacent room Wayne Rooney has agreed to offer a modern-day perspective of that seminal day when 23 people, including eight members of Sir Matt Busby's team, were killed in the wreckage of the burnt-out BEA Elizabethan. It is not his specialist subject but he handles the occasion with dignity and more eloquence than some people might imagine. But then Cristiano Ronaldo comes through the double doors and the mood is broken.
He is wearing a white suit jacket and ripped jeans, looking every bit the boy-band hunk, but it is very obvious he is in a bad mood. He begins by berating Karen Shotbolt, the club's press officer, because he is waiting for Rooney and the event has over-run. He is banging his watch with his hand, flapping his arms and gesturing in the way that Portuguese footballers usually reserve for fussy referees and, at first, he is so animated it appears as if it might be a wind-up.
When he flounces back through the doors, cursing loudly, it is very obvious he is being deadly serious. Rooney is professional enough to carry on with his tribute but the attention is no longer exclusively on him. Thirty seconds later Ronaldo appears again, first rapping his forefinger against the glass in the door, then opening it by a fraction and starting to whistle at Rooney in the way that a farmer beckons his sheepdog.
It was such an unpleasant scene the journalists decided not to write about it because we had been invited to the training ground to cover a far more important subject and, when you have sat with men as noble as Charlton, Foulkes, Albert Scanlon, Harry Gregg and Kenny Morgans and seen the hurt in their eyes, it felt incongruous to veer off-track. But coming away from Carrington that day it was difficult not to wonder what had become of the pimply teenager with the braces on his teeth who had been photographed, in his first few weeks as a United player, holding hands with his mother, Dolores, as they crossed a busy Manchester street.
The answer, of course, is that Ronaldo has fallen in love with his own reflection and, as United are currently finding out, that ego is in danger of spiralling out of control. Nor, sadly, is this story a one-off. One member of staff at Old Trafford reports being shocked by his rudeness when sorting out his travel arrangements for a club trip last season. And then there was last season's Football Writers' Association's annual dinner when, with barely any notice, its player of the year demanded that space was made for five of his friends to attend and that he would like them all to be on the top table with him. He got his way, as superstars often do, but the organisers were unimpressed, to say the least.
This is not to say that Ronaldo is all bad. He won a court case against the Sun earlier this week after it was reported that he had been fined for breaking club rules by using his phone during training: a story that was obvious baloney to anyone who has followed the player's career. Ronaldo, in many ways, is the consummate professional when it comes to improving himself on the pitch. He is not a man for nightclubs or raucous evenings out among the Manchester glitterati and there is something deeply impressive about the way he has come from his humble beginnings, growing up in Madeira in a house so small the washing machine was on the roof, to become the most penetrative attacking footballer in the world.
And yet United's more loyal and thoughtful supporters would by now be entitled to think it would be better for Sir Alex Ferguson and the Glazer family to end this shabby saga and let the previously unthinkable happen. To them, his constant prevaricating about his future, his flirting with the Spanish media and his apparent disregard for Manchester United, must smack of a man who has started to think he is bigger than the club.
His sound bites have become increasingly strategic, as if he thinks we cannot see what he is doing, yet nobody will have been surprised that the sweat had barely dried on his brow after Portugal's defeat by Germany on Thursday before he had re-iterated his desire to leave Old Trafford - just as Real Madrid had requested. United insist they will not allow themselves to be bullied into a corner but, when a player is acting like this and would so obviously be resentful and unsettled if he is denied the transfer he craves, the question should be: what is the point in keeping him?
It was such an unpleasant scene the journalists decided not to write about it because we had been invited to the training ground to cover a far more important subject
in an upstairs room at Manchester United's training ground five elderly men in smart blazers are struggling with their emotions in front of a hushed audience. It is the club's media day building up to the 50th anniversary of the Munich air disaster and Sir Bobby Charlton's polite smile does not hide the fact he is trembling as he takes his seat. Bill Foulkes is straight-backed and dignified but only a couple of questions have been asked before the tears appear in his eyes and he reaches for a glass of water.
When he flounces back through the doors, cursing loudly, it is very obvious he is being deadly serious. Rooney is professional enough to carry on with his tribute but the attention is no longer exclusively on him. Thirty seconds later Ronaldo appears again, first rapping his forefinger against the glass in the door, then opening it by a fraction and starting to whistle at Rooney in the way that a farmer beckons his sheepdog.
30 pages back. Instigated a lot of discussion if you're interested.has anyone else read this ? sorry if it was posted in the preceeding 10,000 posts
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/06/21/why_united_should_let_this_ego.html
Why United should let this ego walk off to Madrid
Ronaldo's sound bites have become increasingly strategic, as if he thinks we cannot see what he is doing
Daniel Taylor
June 21, 2008 12:54 AM
First of all a little story to tell you what kind of man we are talking about. It is January 9, 2008, and in an upstairs room at Manchester United's training ground five elderly men in smart blazers are struggling with their emotions in front of a hushed audience. It is the club's media day building up to the 50th anniversary of the Munich air disaster and Sir Bobby Charlton's polite smile does not hide the fact he is trembling as he takes his seat. Bill Foulkes is straight-backed and dignified but only a couple of questions have been asked before the tears appear in his eyes and he reaches for a glass of water.
In an adjacent room Wayne Rooney has agreed to offer a modern-day perspective of that seminal day when 23 people, including eight members of Sir Matt Busby's team, were killed in the wreckage of the burnt-out BEA Elizabethan. It is not his specialist subject but he handles the occasion with dignity and more eloquence than some people might imagine. But then Cristiano Ronaldo comes through the double doors and the mood is broken.
He is wearing a white suit jacket and ripped jeans, looking every bit the boy-band hunk, but it is very obvious he is in a bad mood. He begins by berating Karen Shotbolt, the club's press officer, because he is waiting for Rooney and the event has over-run. He is banging his watch with his hand, flapping his arms and gesturing in the way that Portuguese footballers usually reserve for fussy referees and, at first, he is so animated it appears as if it might be a wind-up.
When he flounces back through the doors, cursing loudly, it is very obvious he is being deadly serious. Rooney is professional enough to carry on with his tribute but the attention is no longer exclusively on him. Thirty seconds later Ronaldo appears again, first rapping his forefinger against the glass in the door, then opening it by a fraction and starting to whistle at Rooney in the way that a farmer beckons his sheepdog.
It was such an unpleasant scene the journalists decided not to write about it because we had been invited to the training ground to cover a far more important subject and, when you have sat with men as noble as Charlton, Foulkes, Albert Scanlon, Harry Gregg and Kenny Morgans and seen the hurt in their eyes, it felt incongruous to veer off-track. But coming away from Carrington that day it was difficult not to wonder what had become of the pimply teenager with the braces on his teeth who had been photographed, in his first few weeks as a United player, holding hands with his mother, Dolores, as they crossed a busy Manchester street.
The answer, of course, is that Ronaldo has fallen in love with his own reflection and, as United are currently finding out, that ego is in danger of spiralling out of control. Nor, sadly, is this story a one-off. One member of staff at Old Trafford reports being shocked by his rudeness when sorting out his travel arrangements for a club trip last season. And then there was last season's Football Writers' Association's annual dinner when, with barely any notice, its player of the year demanded that space was made for five of his friends to attend and that he would like them all to be on the top table with him. He got his way, as superstars often do, but the organisers were unimpressed, to say the least.
This is not to say that Ronaldo is all bad. He won a court case against the Sun earlier this week after it was reported that he had been fined for breaking club rules by using his phone during training: a story that was obvious baloney to anyone who has followed the player's career. Ronaldo, in many ways, is the consummate professional when it comes to improving himself on the pitch. He is not a man for nightclubs or raucous evenings out among the Manchester glitterati and there is something deeply impressive about the way he has come from his humble beginnings, growing up in Madeira in a house so small the washing machine was on the roof, to become the most penetrative attacking footballer in the world.
And yet United's more loyal and thoughtful supporters would by now be entitled to think it would be better for Sir Alex Ferguson and the Glazer family to end this shabby saga and let the previously unthinkable happen. To them, his constant prevaricating about his future, his flirting with the Spanish media and his apparent disregard for Manchester United, must smack of a man who has started to think he is bigger than the club.
His sound bites have become increasingly strategic, as if he thinks we cannot see what he is doing, yet nobody will have been surprised that the sweat had barely dried on his brow after Portugal's defeat by Germany on Thursday before he had re-iterated his desire to leave Old Trafford - just as Real Madrid had requested. United insist they will not allow themselves to be bullied into a corner but, when a player is acting like this and would so obviously be resentful and unsettled if he is denied the transfer he craves, the question should be: what is the point in keeping him?
Please don't tell me anyone on this board is stupid enough to fall for a clear propaganda piece like this. Crying Busby survivors FFS.
Bullshit. If this did happen the british media would not fecking flinch in reporting it.
If you were a thick cnut like 99% of the popoulation these two cleverly designed paragraphs will have made you subconciously, or even conciously, came to a moral conclussion.
I'm not defending Ronaldo for his actions in wanting to go to Madrid but it should be illegal for journalists to just invent shit like that. Hitler would be proud of it.
Not doubt there's a bunch lemmings around the nation reading now cursing Ronaldo for shitting on the munich survivors though.
Look who's talking?I'm not defending Ronaldo for his actions in wanting to go to Madrid but it should be illegal for journalists to just invent shit like that. Hitler would be proud of it.
30 pages back. Instigated a lot of discussion if you're interested.
I know it might be picky, I just didn't like that moment particularly much. Of course Ronnie didn't mean anything by it, it's just the arrogance that kind of annoys me.
If anything I found the gesture quite endearing, not patronising arrogant or anything else negative
Newspapers don't exagerate, come on.I remember the sun at the time saying they had attended the event. So if it was true, why did they have to make up fake stories about Ronaldo texting in training? You know what they are like, they would have loved to write about that. Also, why would Sir Bobby continue to praise Ronnie (which he did) if thats how Ronaldo had behaved. When a story comes out six months later, I am always suspicious. I also think if any of it is true, it has been exagerated
Maybe he had January 8th in his head..
You mean July 31st ?By Jan 8th I presume you mean Feb 6th ?
I meant the date stated in the article. Which was Jan 9th, sorry. Obviously it sounds pretty unbelievable, and I'm tired. But if someone would do something like that I wouldn't be surprised if it was him. Doesn't mean he wants to shit on the survivors or anything, could just be ignorance or his usual ego look being misinterpreted.By Jan 8th I presume you mean Feb 6th ?
has anyone else read this ? sorry if it was posted in the preceeding 10,000 posts
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/06/21/why_united_should_let_this_ego.html
Why United should let this ego walk off to Madrid
Ronaldo's sound bites have become increasingly strategic, as if he thinks we cannot see what he is doing
Daniel Taylor
June 21, 2008 12:54 AM
First of all a little story to tell you what kind of man we are talking about. It is January 9, 2008, and in an upstairs room at Manchester United's training ground five elderly men in smart blazers are struggling with their emotions in front of a hushed audience. It is the club's media day building up to the 50th anniversary of the Munich air disaster and Sir Bobby Charlton's polite smile does not hide the fact he is trembling as he takes his seat. Bill Foulkes is straight-backed and dignified but only a couple of questions have been asked before the tears appear in his eyes and he reaches for a glass of water.
In an adjacent room Wayne Rooney has agreed to offer a modern-day perspective of that seminal day when 23 people, including eight members of Sir Matt Busby's team, were killed in the wreckage of the burnt-out BEA Elizabethan. It is not his specialist subject but he handles the occasion with dignity and more eloquence than some people might imagine. But then Cristiano Ronaldo comes through the double doors and the mood is broken.
He is wearing a white suit jacket and ripped jeans, looking every bit the boy-band hunk, but it is very obvious he is in a bad mood. He begins by berating Karen Shotbolt, the club's press officer, because he is waiting for Rooney and the event has over-run. He is banging his watch with his hand, flapping his arms and gesturing in the way that Portuguese footballers usually reserve for fussy referees and, at first, he is so animated it appears as if it might be a wind-up.
When he flounces back through the doors, cursing loudly, it is very obvious he is being deadly serious. Rooney is professional enough to carry on with his tribute but the attention is no longer exclusively on him. Thirty seconds later Ronaldo appears again, first rapping his forefinger against the glass in the door, then opening it by a fraction and starting to whistle at Rooney in the way that a farmer beckons his sheepdog.
It was such an unpleasant scene the journalists decided not to write about it because we had been invited to the training ground to cover a far more important subject and, when you have sat with men as noble as Charlton, Foulkes, Albert Scanlon, Harry Gregg and Kenny Morgans and seen the hurt in their eyes, it felt incongruous to veer off-track. But coming away from Carrington that day it was difficult not to wonder what had become of the pimply teenager with the braces on his teeth who had been photographed, in his first few weeks as a United player, holding hands with his mother, Dolores, as they crossed a busy Manchester street.
The answer, of course, is that Ronaldo has fallen in love with his own reflection and, as United are currently finding out, that ego is in danger of spiralling out of control. Nor, sadly, is this story a one-off. One member of staff at Old Trafford reports being shocked by his rudeness when sorting out his travel arrangements for a club trip last season. And then there was last season's Football Writers' Association's annual dinner when, with barely any notice, its player of the year demanded that space was made for five of his friends to attend and that he would like them all to be on the top table with him. He got his way, as superstars often do, but the organisers were unimpressed, to say the least.
This is not to say that Ronaldo is all bad. He won a court case against the Sun earlier this week after it was reported that he had been fined for breaking club rules by using his phone during training: a story that was obvious baloney to anyone who has followed the player's career. Ronaldo, in many ways, is the consummate professional when it comes to improving himself on the pitch. He is not a man for nightclubs or raucous evenings out among the Manchester glitterati and there is something deeply impressive about the way he has come from his humble beginnings, growing up in Madeira in a house so small the washing machine was on the roof, to become the most penetrative attacking footballer in the world.
And yet United's more loyal and thoughtful supporters would by now be entitled to think it would be better for Sir Alex Ferguson and the Glazer family to end this shabby saga and let the previously unthinkable happen. To them, his constant prevaricating about his future, his flirting with the Spanish media and his apparent disregard for Manchester United, must smack of a man who has started to think he is bigger than the club.
His sound bites have become increasingly strategic, as if he thinks we cannot see what he is doing, yet nobody will have been surprised that the sweat had barely dried on his brow after Portugal's defeat by Germany on Thursday before he had re-iterated his desire to leave Old Trafford - just as Real Madrid had requested. United insist they will not allow themselves to be bullied into a corner but, when a player is acting like this and would so obviously be resentful and unsettled if he is denied the transfer he craves, the question should be: what is the point in keeping him?
If the article about the munich survivors wasn't true then I'm sure Ronaldo would sue the paper claiming Defamation. If he doesn't sue them then you can be pretty confident that the story is accurate.
Ronaldo publicly urged by Calderón yesterday to remain strong.
“If the kid keeps himself in that strong position, the step he has taken [in expressing his wish to join Real] could be key,” Calderón said. “As we have already said many times, it is a problem between Manchester United and the player. If the two resolve the situation and Manchester United want to call us,
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/manchester_united/article4193500.ece
Is he worth it, that £80m Real Madrid are supposedly willing to pay for him? You suspect that in marketing terms he probably is; widely regarded as the second-best player in the world and lucky the best, Lionel Messi, has a face like a shovel.
I thought Ronaldo's cheeky look to his left during minute 34 of the game against West Ham was a clear sign of disrespect towards Sir Alex Ferguson. Saw this coming from then really.
whenwasdat?