Musk | Fascist | Leader of the Free World

Nah, it needs to be totally wrecked. Let him stay on.
Also, he would still have a large ownership share even if he stepped down as CEO.
Expect he will go the James Watt route of “non-CEOship”
 
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Activists sprayed paint on the exterior of a Tesla dealership in Montreal on Wednesday, as cases of vandalism climb in the United States and around the world against Elon Musk's electric car company.
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Out of shape Nazis should be doing crunches down at the Nuremberg gymnasium.
 
Hey, don't laugh. X has loads more active users than ever before and that's just a fact. Take a look at the top posts on one of his last tweets and you'll see how active these active users are.

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Well they clearly haven't as there is no stabbing on a bus. Clearly just yet more shit stirring and propaganda being spread to further their agenda.

The amount of replies taking their word as truth just shows what a shit place we are in.
That's the worrying thing, people believing anything and not bothering to do even some brief researching (And that includes Musk).
 
Nah, it would be nice to see his legacy getting totally shredded to hell.

This. Also it's about time that overvalued company with its piece of shit cars is going down. Is there any other example of a stock being so incredibly overrated as the Tesla Stock?
 
This. Also it's about time that overvalued company with its piece of shit cars is going down. Is there any other example of a stock being so incredibly overrated as the Tesla Stock?
Palantir. Whose main shareholder is Peter Thiel.
 
Palantir. Whose main shareholder is Peter Thiel.

The current UK government is giving them contracts galore, including the personal data for pretty much every person in the country via the NHS. Its a license to print money, so while I agree that palantir is a rubbish company, they are going to justfy that share price because they basically own starmer and streeting.
 
The current UK government is giving them contracts galore, including the personal data for pretty much every person in the country via the NHS. Its a license to print money, so while I agree that palantir is a rubbish company, they are going to justfy that share price because they basically own starmer and streeting.
They have a 500 PE ratio*, by far the highest from established companies.

* For people not familiar with stocks, that means that the company is evaluated at 500 times its last annual profits. The average US company is at around 21 or so. In other words, Palantir needs to increase their profits 25 fold for the ratio between the company’s value and profits to be around the same as the average S&P500. But Vance is a Thiel creature, so who knows, their stock will probably be crazy high as long as Vance is there.

For comparison, Tesla’s PE is crazy high at 120, still around 4 times lower than Palantir’s.
 
They have a 500 PE ratio*, by far the highest from established companies.

* For people not familiar with stocks, that means that the company is evaluated at 500 times its last annual profits. The average US company is at around 21 or so. In other words, Palantir needs to increase their profits 25 fold for the ratio between the company’s value and profits to be around the same as the average S&P500. But Vance is a Thiel creature, so who knows, their stock will probably be crazy high as long as Vance is there.

For comparison, Tesla’s PE is crazy high at 120, still around 4 times lower than Palantir’s.

PE doesn’t matter much for Tesla since the stock behaves differently than a majority of other tradable assets. In this case its rise was based largely on Musk hype and its fall has likewise been a direct consequence of Musk’s public behavior. It’s the worst trading stock in the S&P this year. Palantir on the other hand, is doing quite well since it’s up a staggering 140% this year.
 
PE doesn’t matter much for Tesla since the stock behaves differently than a majority of other tradable assets. In this case its rise was based largely on Musk hype and its fall has likewise been a direct consequence of Musk’s public behavior. It’s the worst trading stock in the S&P this year. Palantir on the other hand, is doing quite well since it’s up a staggering 140% this year.

Apparently Tesla was the original Game Stop, where there were a ton of shorts and a bunch of internet nerds decided to try a short squeeze. It caused the price to go crazy when the squeeze succeeded.

 
Oof, the stock has sunk another 17% through this buying streak.

Tesla’s Retail Fans Buy the Stock at a Pace Never Seen Before​



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Honestly don't see how it comes back in it's current ownership and leadership structure. Model S is a dozen years old (and should be the cash cow), Model 3 is rocking up the years, X too, Y still looks like dog's ass and the less said about the "truck" the better.

Right now they'd do well to become an established car maker with a second generation line up, never mind the game changer it was (and is) valued as. Ford also sold nearly 10 F150 for every Cybertruck sold last year and that was despite there being a 5 year build up of orders on them...
 
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Honestly don't see how it comes back in its current ownership and leadership structure. Model S is a dozen years old (and should be the cash cow), Model 3 is rocking up the years, X too, Y still looks like dog's ass and the less said about the "truck" the better.

Right now they'd do well to become an established car maker with a second generation line up, never mind the game changer it was (and is) valued as. Ford also sold nearly 10 F150 for every Cybertruck sold last year and that was despite there being a 5 year build up of orders on them...

The Model Y and 3 are by far the company’s best sellers. The Y was apparently the #1 car in the US in 2023 and sells ten times as many cars as the Models S or X, which are both twice as expensive.

It doesn’t really matter how old the various models are as long as they are refreshed every 4-5 years, which has happened with both the Y and 3 recently, and the S in the early 2020s.
 
The Model Y and 3 are by far the company’s best sellers. The Y was apparently the #1 car in the US in 2023 and sells ten times as many cars as the Models S or X, which are both twice as expensive.

It doesn’t really matter how old the various models are as long as they are refreshed every 4-5 years, which has happened with both the Y and 3 recently, and the S in the early 2020s.
They got some new headlights. If you are selling premium vehicles you are selling desirability. My brother has had a p85d for 7 years now and he sees no reason to buy a newer model s because there is no reason to do so (even though I don't think he'd buy a tesla again right now anyway, he would have done 9 months ago). He replaced the infotainment and screens for like 5k a couple of years ago. I know 2 further former model S owners who went for the model 3 as a replacement. Both are very convinced of tesla (or at least used to be when I last talked to them about it) too. They are where Tesla should be making it's money and it's just not.
 
They got some new headlights. If you are selling premium vehicles you are selling desirability. My brother has had a p85d for 7 years now and he sees no reason to buy a newer model s because there is no reason to do so (even though I don't think he'd buy a tesla again right now anyway, he would have done 9 months ago). He replaced the infotainment and screens for like 5k a couple of years ago. I know 2 further former model S owners who went for the model 3 as a replacement. Both are very convinced of tesla (or at least used to be when I last talked to them about it) too. They are where Tesla should be making it's money and it's just not.

That's usually what refreshes are - same model with updated software and a few external tweaks. The models Y and 3 should will still probably sell because Musk as reduced their prices for various reasons over the past 12 months. Buying a new Model S now qualifies for free life time supercharging, which is probably a harbinger that Musk is thinking of getting rid of it soon.
 
Do we know when margin calls against Tesla’s stock hit? Was it at 190? That could be fun…

There's a new article out that does a deep dive on the margin call story. Turns out its a bit of misinformation since Musk didn't end up using Tesla as collatoral to buy Twitter at all. He apparently used a consortium of foreign investors (such as the Saudi Prince and others) alongside his own sale of about $22b of Tesla stock at the time get to the 45 or so billion required to buy it.
 
That's usually what refreshes are - same model with updated software and a few external tweaks. The models Y and 3 should will still probably sell because Musk as reduced their prices for various reasons over the past 12 months. Buying a new Model S now qualifies for free life time supercharging, which is probably a harbinger that Musk is thinking of getting rid of it soon.
As long as Elon doesn't completely ruin it's image I agree with model 3 and Y probably continuing to sell well for some time to come.

Free supercharging has been a thing for a long time for the model S(might be depending on market, don't know), and it's actually kind of brilliant, because those that dish out for the S don't really care enough to abuse it, but they give Tesla credit for sticking with it for years...
 
As long as Elon doesn't completely ruin it's image I agree with model 3 and Y probably continuing to sell well for some time to come.

Free supercharging has been a thing for a long time for the model S(might be depending on market, don't know), and it's actually kind of brilliant, because those that dish out for the S don't really care enough to abuse it, but they give Tesla credit for sticking with it for years...

100% . I had an Uber driver with a mid 2010s Model S, who only bought it because Tesla offered free lifetime supercharging at the time. In terms of how present day Tesla's look, the Model S is definitely the least unattractive of the models.
 
As long as Elon doesn't completely ruin it's image I agree with model 3 and Y probably continuing to sell well for some time to come.

Free supercharging has been a thing for a long time for the model S(might be depending on market, don't know), and it's actually kind of brilliant, because those that dish out for the S don't really care enough to abuse it, but they give Tesla credit for sticking with it for years...
I think this already happened in Europe.
 
Is the show any good?
The first few seasons were marginally better where he was pretending to be Tony Stark, and had some moral values but it’s fallen off an edge these last few years. Hope it gets cancelled after this season.