Jadon Sancho - Chelsea (loan) watch | £5M opt-out fee

Not that he seems to have any concept of shame, but imagine being so poor your loan club thinks it's better to pay a penalty than 25m to make your transfer permanent.
 
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Brand Nubian said:
Genius strategy by Woodward and ETH. Sell Elanga with all the right skill-set to live with PL - pace, stamina, hard work, dedication, motivanion, productivity - on about 30k a week for measly 15mil pounds fee. Sign chubby, slow-ish, physically weak, unprofessionall, balloon inhaling idiot regularly late for training or often not even turning up for morning sessions Sancho - 70mil+ transfer fee on 250k weeks wages. The damage ETH (and Woody) did to this squad should be open to criminal investigation.
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Ole was in charge when we signed Jadon and that was all Woodward’s work anyway.

I’m also not sure why you are mentioning Elanga? Most fans at the time weren’t that sad to see him go. He is in a run of form at the moment that many quick players (Walcott, Lennon, James, Adama) go on where they look better than they really are.
If Elanga sustains this for the following 2 seasons after this one, we can say it’s a mistake selling him. But ultimately the mistake was ever signing Sancho to begin with.
 
Not gonna happen, but the mere fact that there's a non zero probability of it happening is hilarious. United apparently has Lionel Hutz on the Legal department.

It could have a silver lining though. In United's difficult economic situation and the prospect of likely being understaffed after the lay offs, INEOS could have a new income source by charging an extra £100 to have Sancho checking the tickets and then walking the fans to their seats.
 
Jim Beam said:
https://thebusinessmagazine.co.uk/c...-collyer-signs-for-manchester-united-reports/

Collyer for free was signed while Rangnick was interim. Otherwise, no, the man whose main duty should have been to guide/advise on transfers didn't get the chance to do any of it. Tbf to him he managed to take a dump on most of the team in his brief period here.
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So he has a 100% success rate then. Get him back ffs. His press conferences and 4-2-2-2 are exactly what we need for the future.
 
UsualSuspect said:
Why would they pay the penalty? A 20m outlay for a player who has had an okay start at the club and is worth an immediate profit. His wages will be much lower than at United as well so he will be very much a saleable asset.

The actual issue is that he's not the best profile for what Maresca wants out of his wingers but strangely I have been impressed by his defensive work rate. I'd like to see him given a few starts as a 10.
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I hope you're right, crack on and buy him then!
 
UsualSuspect said:
Why would they pay the penalty? A 20m outlay for a player who has had an okay start at the club and is worth an immediate profit. His wages will be much lower than at United as well so he will be very much a saleable asset.

The actual issue is that he's not the best profile for what Maresca wants out of his wingers but strangely I have been impressed by his defensive work rate. I'd like to see him given a few starts as a 10.
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I don't understand why you'd think that, as I can't think of a single club that would come close to giving Chelsea a profit if you bought him for £20 million in the summer.

If the clause is £10 million, then it makes alot of sense to send him back, as you wouldn't have the issue of selling him and he'd be off your wages.

I'd bet my last pound that United will struggle to sell him for £10 million in the summer, and another loan with us taking up the slack on his wages will no doubt happen.

Basically imo it benefits Chelsea alot more to pay the clause.
 
There are no details on the existence of, or lack thereof, the cancel/penalty clause. I think paranoia is spread because there would be penalty clause in most legal contracts assuming one party doesn’t fulfil their obligations. Would be pretty damning for Sancho if this ridiculous situation were to happen. Not that he seems like the player who has much shame.
 
Nickelodeon said:
There are no details on the existence of, or lack thereof, the cancel/penalty clause.
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There's as much "evidence" as with 99% of all other transfer fees, buyout clauses, options/obligations to buy that are reported which is that they're reported by a journalist. Clubs hardly ever confirm these things.

It just depends on how much cred give the journos. I'm this case, it's Ornstein who probably is the most "respected".
 
G97 said:
Ole was in charge when we signed Jadon and that was all Woodward’s work anyway.

I’m also not sure why you are mentioning Elanga? Most fans at the time weren’t that sad to see him go. He is in a run of form at the moment that many quick players (Walcott, Lennon, James, Adama) go on where they look better than they really are.
If Elanga sustains this for the following 2 seasons after this one, we can say it’s a mistake selling him. But ultimately the mistake was ever signing Sancho to begin with.
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And this proves what? Most fans at the time were excited about signing Sancho (Onana etc). Shows the majority of fans are not the best of judges. But they´re not paid big bucks to make decisions. Once the people in charge bow to the fans voice its the start of the ending.

Just checked, Elanga got a brace the other day. He is now on 5+8 in the league, fighting for Top 2-3 PL finish. But "not good enough for Man Utd purposses" acording to majority of supporters. Same with McT, Alvarez, maligned Amad by ETH, Pereira, even feckin Fred.

These should be the players to built a dynamic squad around. If these guys were on the bench pressuring starting 11 to play their best that would mean a starting line-up is feckin brilliant.

Polish friend of mine I shared a flat with while working in Dublin called it "a double joepardy." He always took an option to work on a Saturday. "Tom, its not 100 quid difference in my wallet, its actually 200e difference," Mr. Pašek said. "If I dont go, I´d be like you: 1-2 lets say 12 bottles of Czech Budvar, some weed, a kebab, a bet in Paddys on a random horse or a feckin greyhound. A hooker to boot. So I would end up with Zero in my pocket after a day like yours, now I have 200 quid."

This is what ETH (and Woodward) did. Getting rid of players with the right PL ingredience, while burden the club with slow, unathletic, has beens, legs going, low IQ footballers.
 
I donr think I’ve ever felt such a lack of attachment to a United player than I have felt with this guy. Even the likes on Antony, they may not be great, but Sancho is another level of character. Self entitled, overrated and now been found out because it’s not just United that are not interested. If we can’t shift him this summer, I’d pay out his remaining contract (at a discount) and finally draw a close to his embarrassing association to the club.
 
Sancho was a brillant transfer at the time. Of course it would have helped if United had known in advance what type of player he was and that signing him was pointless if you don't plan to implement a system that plays to his strengths but in general, it was a very good piece of business. You had been away from the top for a good while back then, Sancho was one of the most wanted youngsters in the world - english on top of that - and you even got him for a fee much below what was discussed in the previous years.

It wasn't foreseeable that he'd turn out like this, even if played in a unfitting system. There have been many United transfers that were very difficult to understand right from the start but this wasn't one of them, IMO.
 
Still get a laugh remembering when his biggest fan in the world said in here that he has the potential to be the best player in the league.
 
Brand Nubian said:
And this proves what? Most fans at the time were excited about signing Sancho (Onana etc). Shows the majority of fans are not the best of judges. But they´re not paid big bucks to make decisions. Once the people in charge bow to the fans voice its the start of the ending.

Just checked, Elanga got a brace the other day. He is now on 5+8 in the league, fighting for Top 2-3 PL finish. But "not good enough for Man Utd purposses" acording to majority of supporters. Same with McT, Alvarez, maligned Amad by ETH, Pereira, even feckin Fred.

These should be the players to built a dynamic squad around. If these guys were on the bench pressuring starting 11 to play their best that would mean a starting line-up is feckin brilliant.

Polish friend of mine I shared a flat with while working in Dublin called it "a double joepardy." He always took an option to work on a Saturday. "Tom, its not 100 quid difference in my wallet, its actually 200e difference," Mr. Pašek said. "If I dont go, I´d be like you: 1-2 lets say 12 bottles of Czech Budvar, some weed, a kebab, a bet in Paddys on a random horse or a feckin greyhound. A hooker to boot. So I would end up with Zero in my pocket after a day like yours, now I have 200 quid."

This is what ETH (and Woodward) did. Getting rid of players with the right PL ingredience, while burden the club with slow, unathletic, has beens, legs going, low IQ footballers.
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It proves that anything is easy in hindsight.

None of these players were good enough for us. Selling them was correct.
The mistakes are who we replace these players them with.
 
Another insipid performance. There is absolutely nothing about him right now that would be remotely appealing to any potential suitors.

Chelsea would've been better keeping Sterling, but Boehly just cannot help himself.

We have to ensure he does not come back at all costs.
 
my goodness.

What a nothing player. Its insane we spent so much on him.

And its terrific if we can get Chelsea to sign him up for 25m. Whoever set this up deserves a statue.
 
No dog in him, if it is easy he can be decent, as soon as its not he vanishes.

Worthless really.
 
Brand Nubian said:
Genius strategy by Woodward and ETH. Sell Elanga with all the right skill-set to live with PL - pace, stamina, hard work, dedication, motivanion, productivity - on about 30k a week for measly 15mil pounds fee. Sign chubby, slow-ish, physically weak, unprofessionall, balloon inhaling idiot regularly late for training or often not even turning up for morning sessions Sancho - 70mil+ transfer fee on 250k weeks wages. The damage ETH (and Woody) did to this squad should be open to criminal investigation.
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The power of hindsight, isn’t it? Sancho was, rightly so, considered to be one of the brightest talents in the world, performing not just in Bundesliga but in Champions League as well. Elanga wasn’t really good enough to start games for us at the time and he would’ve never developed into the player he is now at United.

It was one of the few transfers that made almost perfect sense on paper. The only issue was stylistic incomparability as we’ve played vertical counter-attacking football but we were supposedly moving to another direction.

Sadly, Sancho’s mentality turned out to be even worse than reported at Dortmund and we were also probably the worst environment for such players — low standards, complacency, stardom, a bunch of overpaid and underperforming first teamers…
 
What’s the penalty clause?
Surely has to be at least 50% of the deal. They are backing out of a signed contract.
 
ThatGreyKit said:
Still get a laugh remembering when his biggest fan in the world said in here that he has the potential to be the best player in the league.
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One could argue that he did indeed have the POTENTIAL to be the best player in the league. Lacking the mentality to achieve that has been his downfall though, and should have been more seriously taken into account by our scouting/management team before signing him.
 
Still think Chelsea are buying him. Though they may well just immediately bin him off to another team somehow
 
IrishRedDevil said:
What’s the penalty clause?
Surely has to be at least 50% of the deal. They are backing out of a signed contract.
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He isn’t shit enough to warrant breaking a contract and all the shit that comes with it. If the obligation was 100m I could see it, but they’re getting him for James Trafford money. Surely it isn’t worth it.
 
2 man midfield said:
He isn’t shit enough to warrant breaking a contract and all the shit that comes with it. If the obligation was 100m I could see it, but they’re getting him for James Trafford money. Surely it isn’t worth it.
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I imagine this is all being hyped up by the media and he will be a Chelsea player permanently but if the option was spending a few million not to have Jadon Sancho or £24m plus his wages to have Sancho then I'd take the penalty to feck him off. He's utter dogshit and seems to also just be a massive twat who doesn't realise how far he's fallen.
 
No debate about his mental health on Sky Sports then? funny that, if he was still wearing a red shirt we would be hearing soundbites from all the geniuses.

But nobody gives a shit when he has another bang average performance these days...that's the Freedom he was talking about I guess.
 
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