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Day 12 | England v Slovenia + Denmark v Serbia | France v Poland + Netherlands v Austria
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
By a team that can score more than one goal in a game, presumably.
Well... nope.
Fixed.
Should have given Ralf time of day Erik, also couldn't understand not keeping Sabitzer either
As Slovenia didn't lose a win against Serbia in last second of the game. It's football.
We are not playing with that same spirit of 2021
Managing Austria and Schalke is not the same as managing Manchester United, there was zero chance Ralf was getting a full season as a manager on the back of the end of his tenure, it looked grim.
I mean as bad as we were last season under Ten Hag he obviously still had the players on his side, resulting in results that would’ve been impossible to achieve otherwise, beating Liverpool in the FA Cup, then beating City in the final).
Ten Hag never lost the players, Ralf lost them after two months.
Unless you were referring to his job as “consultant” or a director of some sort, I don’t think that was on the cards once Austria came calling?
Slovenia is what people thought Hungary would be on this Euro.
With all the talk about the format, in the end the better teams are through.
A: Germany and Switzerland
B: Spain and Italy
C: England and Denmark
D: France and the Netherlands
F: Portugal
There will always be some teams that are not that good but end up in the second half of the tournament. That’s not new.
My issue is not with the format or the number of teams overall, but with the low quality shown so far by some of the teams in the above list, particularly France, Italy and Denmark. Croatia is also disappointing; no where near its 2018 level. England is not looking good either, but I don’t tend to have high expectations of them anyway, and so I’m not that surprised.
I look forward to the next round after tomorrow’s games. Let’s see if these teams can finally start showing a much more convincing form.
A: Germany and Switzerland
B: Spain and Italy
C: England and Denmark
D: France and the Netherlands
F: Portugal
There will always be some teams that are not that good but end up in the second half of the tournament. That’s not new.
My issue is not with the format or the number of teams overall, but with the low quality shown so far by some of the teams in the above list, particularly France, Italy and Denmark. Croatia is also disappointing; no where near its 2018 level. England is not looking good either, but I don’t tend to have high expectations of them anyway, and so I’m not that surprised.
I look forward to the next round after tomorrow’s games. Let’s see if these teams can finally start showing a much more convincing form.
You have to be crazy to think we are capable of producing that kind of run in the knockouts
We had much better shape and pressing than before, we had a few moves where the positioning had to be a little better at the end, next match very winnable, we have great attacking subs, they had no chances, all to play for.
I’m not saying England are playing well enough to win the tournament but if that’s the only marker of whether football’s any fun, well, I can’t subscribe to that.
Well done Slovenia!
I have little faith in England to do anything in the knockout stage.
England play shite football and Southgate is a rubbish manager.
Anyone who wanted him at Utd is a moron.
Anyone who wanted him at Utd is a moron.
England are pathetic. 
This is the worst group in the Euro. There isn't a single match that will be remembered once the championship is over.
Imagine topping your group and still playing France because they came 2nd. That sets a decent game up for the next round.
No, the format is bad too. Third place teams have no business going into the knockouts. Just makes group games boring because teams play not to lose.
Either go back to 16 teams or just do 32 teams
That is not how the Balkans work.
Well there weren’t many other distractions!!
Rather than England Southgate is pathetic.England are pathetic.
That is not how the Balkans work.
This cracked me up!
shitty tournament so far. I don't expect knockout stage to be much better since they allow 3rd place teams to advance
What a brutal group group C was, thank God it's over. I don't know about Denmark's coach but Southgate's and Stojkovic's sides are terrible to watch. Slovenia only ones doing well (were expected to finish 4th with 0/1 point) and congrats to them if they progress (not confirmed yet I guess?).
Also well done to Ralf Rangnick, Austria may be team of the tournament so far.
Also well done to Ralf Rangnick, Austria may be team of the tournament so far.
He's getting some criticism as well. Denmark has an issue with player quality for sure, but yesterday it just seems like we didn't really go for it. Way too hesitant to take the risks on the counter-attacks and so on. It was a frustrating watch, but I do acknowledge that he doesn't have a lot of great creative tools anymore. Eriksen can't do it all, and there are no really good forwards to pass to. All the quality of the Danish team is in the midfielders and central defenders.
Austria is what people thought Hungary would be on this Euro
It's confirmed that they're through, just not confirmed how high they finish in the 3rd place table. If Czech Republic win they'll knock Hungary out and go above Slovenia in 3rd on the table.
Austria is what anyone who watched international football the past year and a half thought Austria would be.
I can't actually even remember, I was mostly just using that as a joke about Luke Shaw being the glue.
Yeah no. Nobody thought they would win their group.
Oh I see, thank you. I thought that group with Belgium, Romania etc could disrupt Slovenia's finish but obviously Hungary got worst goal difference.
I see. Yeah last night in 2nd half it felt like you were just holding on a draw and it could've backfired on you, England weren't much different in 1st game. There was even great position to shoot for Milinković-Savić in stoppage time but his shot was too weak to make it difficult for Schmeichel.
As Serbian, congratulations on getting to knockout stage. Back in 1992 coming to euros instead of Yugoslavia you won the thing so why not do it once more
Who do England come up agains next?
Depends how the final two groups play out. Either it will be the Netherlands or which ever team finishes third in Group E, which can be any of Romania, Belgium, Slovakia or Ukraine.
England should have a reasonable chance against any of those sides, I know they havent sparkled so far but they should improve
Ingerlund - pass the Dutchies will be a good game.
Well, that's barely a sport so no.
It wouldn't have been unreasonable for England to have drawn against Serbia and lost against Denmark, given the performances. It's been the worst group showing under Southgate, and dramatic improvement is going to be needed to beat whoever it is we face in the next round.
Without improvement, I'd expect both Netherlands and Belgium to beat us in normal time, and extra-time and/or penalties against either Romania or Ukraine, which could go either way, given how leggy we've looked.
France plays Group E 2nd next round.