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It is what it is. We should support him and hope that Martinez stays fit whole season.
You just can’t have a manager be in their final year. The level of uncertainty does no one good. It’s not just him, it’s his staff and it’s the players. Even if we sacked him halfway through next season without extending the contract we have to pay him off. Very doubtful we’ll be raising his termination clause so it’s not making it ‘doubly’ expensive.When you came close to sacking the manager you can't make it more expensive for yourself to do so should the need arise, giving him a couple of years more will make it doubly more expensive and given his incompetence we might need to exercise that option as early as November. We should keep all our options open and if he can't manage in the uncertain situation his performances put him in then so be it. But then we have the idiots upstairs who watch him shit the bed for 9 months and think that deserves another season because he won a 6 game tournament.
If De Zerbi had a season as impressive as 22/23 again I think he would have got the job.Oh ffs. De Zerbi is free.
Time to get behind the manager and hope for the best, but I'm not optimistic. Feels like we are just wasting another season while INEOS sort out the upper management.
You better believe I’m pulling for Ipswich this season. I want him to be as good as I think he is.Warm the seat for McKenna.
Just kidding
It's a weird narrative to try and spin, isn't it?He didn’t fecking play ! Are we really trying to spin this as a ETH positive? It’s okay lads even if you support him you don’t have to spin everything, like I said he did well integrating Garnacho and Mainoo but was poor in how he handled Amad
If Ten Hag gets a new contract they'll build all sorts of break clauses into it to ensure if there's cause to fire him it'll be cheaper. If he's that keen to stay he'll sign it. He's independently wealthy and he should believe there will never be another 8th placed finish or anything close to it.When you came close to sacking the manager you can't make it more expensive for yourself to do so should the need arise, giving him a couple of years more will make it doubly more expensive and given his incompetence we might need to exercise that option as early as November. We should keep all our options open and if he can't manage in the uncertain situation his performances put him in then so be it. But then we have the idiots upstairs who watch him shit the bed for 9 months and think that deserves another season because he won a 6 game tournament.
Wait til we find out they didnt sack him cos Southgate is under contract until December….If the alternative was Southgate then I’m happy.
When has this ever been the excuse? He's been backed massively and got the players he wanted (unfortunately) most of the time.Another wasted year of crap football awaits us, along with all the excuses people will come with again.
The main one will be they didn't get him the players he wanted, we'll be reading this all winter. He wasn't backed
Without a contact extension he is a lame duck coach. There is an element of that even now.Can someone explain to me why the hell
Would we be negotiating a contract extension at this point? We made this same mistake with Ole last time around, extending him when there was no one interested in him and just made our own sacking more expensive.
No one wants to take him from us, let the guy see out his contract and extend him if its all going well.
It will be this winter when we are still crap and the injuries excuse is gone.When has this ever been the excuse? He's been backed massively and got the players he wanted (unfortunately) most of the time.
He played very well, but so did Antony who also scored by the way. Amad wasn’t ‘banished’, he was not a starter. Besides, he got a second yellow.How about the goal against pool followed by further banishment? I wonder if I'm even living in the same dimension as some of you ETH cultists.
Like who?What alternatives are you hoping for next season? Some of the most respected coaches not named Pep or Jurgen, were available. It'll be years until somebody of that calibre comes along again, so Ten Hag can fail miserably again and he'll stay. Or we'll get Southgate to scratch that itch they apparently have.
Make no bones about it though, if anther top class coach comes along anytime soon then it's far from guaranteed they'd want to come here given that all the best clubs in Europe will have a spot for them.
So you're...creating ideas in your head and getting annoyed by them? Alright then, normal.It will be this winter when we are still crap and the injuries excuse is gone.
If that’s the case I might just sign out from being a hardcore supporter and just pop in to matchdays occasionallyWait til we find out they didnt sack him cos Southgate is under contract until December….
I think that Mckenna is very good as well. I think that a ton of teams will be in for him at the end of this season.You better believe I’m pulling for Ipswich this season. I want him to be as good as I think he is.
He was injured, had to get match fitness, had some underwhelming cameos, played great in the Pool game, was suspended. Relax.He didn’t fecking play ! Are we really trying to spin this as a ETH positive? It’s okay lads even if you support him you don’t have to spin everything, like I said he did well integrating Garnacho and Mainoo but was poor in how he handled Amad
There are any number of potential reasons:Can someone explain to me why the hell
Would we be negotiating a contract extension at this point? We made this same mistake with Ole last time around, extending him when there was no one interested in him and just made our own sacking more expensive.
No one wants to take him from us, let the guy see out his contract and extend him if its all going well.
Does that suddenly change by giving him a further 2 years after all of Europe have known that we were having dinner with every available suitable managerial candidate this month?Without a contact extension he is a lame duck coach. There is an element of that even now.
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We've also changed managers 6 times over the last decade. I'm struggling to see which times saved the following seasons?People saying we wasted next season. I disagree.
Next season depends on how the transfer window goes, not on the manager.
Better than any manager post-Fergie, yet, there are coaches that are backed more, like Pep, like Arteta. Those are the better build squads in the Premier League, and we really need to bring in quality players in order to catch up with them. Giving Ten Hag such a sway over transfers was clearly a mistake. Not even Klop was able to make the right transfers when he volunteered for that task. Let him coach, advise him on the plans of which players you want to bring in, but don't give him the final say.What do you mean by this, is our squad not a reflection of his input already?
He's genuinely been backed better in the market than any manager post-Fergie, we've spent massive amounts on players simply off his recommendations
Consistency, innit...I can find a similar video clip from a 1-2 loss at home to Fulham.
And a similar video clip from a 1-3 loss at home to Brighton.
And a similar video clip from a 0-3 loss at home to Bournemouth.
Which one should I dig out?
We learned a lot about our squad last season. Now we need to show what we learned in the transfer window.People saying we wasted next season. I disagree.
Next season depends on how the transfer window goes, not on the manager.
Yes, losing 7-0 to Liverpool screams high standards.The thing I like the most about him is how he has demanded high standards
A status he more than deserves given the debacle of a season he presided over. If he can't manage under the circumstances of his own making in addition to not being able to play decent football without Martinez maybe he isn't worth all the trouble as his league performances this season have shown. We are run by utter idiots to even consider keeping him let alone give him another contract.Without a contact extension he is a lame duck coach. There is an element of that even now.
How is sticking with a guy who finished fecking 8th with a negative goal difference a big club move exactly?The best decision we’ve made post Sir Alex. This is the biggest football club in the world, maybe, finally, we will start to act like it.