Literally all three.
VAR and Refs | General Discussion
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How was Joelinton deemed not to have fouled Gabriel ?
Standard Howard Webb VAR apology coming tomorrow by to Arsenal.
Because Gabriel blatantly dived as soon as he realised the ball was going over his head.
Ah so you're full of shit then.
Vince McMahon decided it wasn't a foul
They told BBC commentators that they couldn’t draw the lines as there were too many players in the way.
That’s now the second offside call given against us where it’s been confirmed that the lines simply haven’t been drawn.
It doesn't matter what he was doing, that was a clear foul by Joelinton. This is the exact opposite of players creating a contact inside the box for a pen when they anticipate a defender tackling.
Our goal against Brighton should have stood.
We have been shite but in half our PL games, the refs have been a joke and you barely hear a thing about it. Meanwhile, the scousers get one unlucky break and they're ready to sue.
We had the Brighton goal, the Spurs penalty, the Arsenal goal and then the City penalty.
All of these decisions were key and we could easily have another 3-6 points more and be level with the Arse. Absolutely criminal from the refs.
And funnily enough, it's Newcastle and City who always seem to get the benefit of the doubt.
We have been shite but in half our PL games, the refs have been a joke and you barely hear a thing about it. Meanwhile, the scousers get one unlucky break and they're ready to sue.
We had the Brighton goal, the Spurs penalty, the Arsenal goal and then the City penalty.
All of these decisions were key and we could easily have another 3-6 points more and be level with the Arse. Absolutely criminal from the refs.
And funnily enough, it's Newcastle and City who always seem to get the benefit of the doubt.
But but it all evens out in the end, is what we are told
Yep. That’s the only possible explanation, well done mate.
No way.
Joe Linton pushes him blatantly in the back.
Bad day for Var today
Gabriel was looking for a foul. Not giving him one was definitely not a “clear and obvious error” that’s for sure.
I know you hate arse with a passion but come on now, its very obvious push
Neville said they couldn't determine the point at which Joelinton made contact with the ball so they couldn't adjudicate on the offside one way or the other.
Just amazes me TV companies regularly boast about endless camera angles in games they cover. Yet they can't find one to define whether a goal goes out on the touchline clearly?
If you can put them on goallines then they should have some hovering over the corner flags that give clear images on when balls go in/out.
Was same in World cup with the goal Japan scored v Germany which looked clearly out.
If you can put them on goallines then they should have some hovering over the corner flags that give clear images on when balls go in/out.
Was same in World cup with the goal Japan scored v Germany which looked clearly out.
Looking for a foul has never been a reason not to give a foul
If you push an opponent in the back with both hand when he’s defending on the goal line, it’s a foul. Whether Gabriel was “looking for it” is irrelevant.
You don't seem interested in elaborating on how it's clear and obvious that the ball is over the line so I can only assume you're just having a general moan because your team just had the clear and obvious bar work against you.
If you look at the incident Gabriel isn't pushed over. He leans forward by himself to try to head the ball behind him. The arms are in the back but they're not the reason he ends up in that position.
You’re free to assume what you like.
You don't seem to be wanting to prove me wrong.
We all know and can see that that's a foul
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Eh, no. We all can’t.
It looked like Gabriel felt the hands on this back and threw his legs back into Joelinton. As the goal had been given there wasn't enough in it to over-rule the onfield decision.
To be honest, I'm happy enough they decided they didn't have enough evidence to rule the goal out. It'd be preferable if they admitted this and let other marginal goals stand. It seems like some of them guess and rule out goals unnecessarily.
Sorry for those who cant.
They know nothing about football.
It seems Var decide who they want to win. Absolutely zero consistency. Get rid of it now!! It's ruined the game.
https://www.nbcsports.com/watch/soccer/premier-league/gordon-gives-newcastle-1-0-lead-v-arsenal
Has the full video of the goal and VAR in full detail as it happened. Gabriel hadn't even had/made an attempt to head the ball while Joelinton was pushing into his back.
Has the full video of the goal and VAR in full detail as it happened. Gabriel hadn't even had/made an attempt to head the ball while Joelinton was pushing into his back.
That’s correct.
It doesn't seem like it , that's exactly what they do
Good one. You’ve played a lot of football, have you?
Horrific day for it, again.
Why does Old Trafford have a camera along the touchline and St. Mohammed bin Salman Park doesn't?
You can clearly see grass inbetween the ball and the line.
Hard to see how they deem insufficient evidence that the ball was out, but had a different ruling for Hojlund's goal vs Palace.
The two look pretty much identical, no?
The two look pretty much identical, no?
I’d love to see a Hawkeye view of it because I’d bet it would show the whole ball wasn’t over the line.