Whether it's mentoned or not I have no idea, I know it's something referees have been using since I started watching football
Premier League Gameweek 11
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
That doesn't prove that all of the ball was over the line given the spherical nature of a football. They really ought to have the kind of technology and camera angles that Serie A have though.
Nketiah Jorginho and Havertz is a fair amount of dross they’re carrying
Yeah but you are looking from the wrong angle under the curvature of the ball. It's genuinely not possible from that angle, so giving the benefit of the doubt is correct. Which is why it's so dumbfounding they didn't do the same for Garnacho against Brighton.
That doesn’t mean it’s out
. Do you not know how spheres work?That doesn't mean the whole ball was out, it's spherical
No because it isn't proof the whole ball is out, which is the rule.
The question is why they have a rule that they can't possibly determine with the technology they have.
Exactly - that’s what made the decision at Brighton a disgrace. There was no conclusive proof either went out - so have to stick with on field decision
It is just dumb the whole thing. Other sports use it for specific things or times, most of those sports have natural stoppages to the game that allows the tech not to have severe consequences to the flow of the game, football go all in and are. making it up week by week.
Why was fixing the human element not the focus, bring that standard up then slowly introduce tech through careful trialing
Camera isn’t in line though. Impossible to tell if it is out from that angle. I also don’t think it is a clear and obvious foul tbh. Not sure on the offside.
angles and spheres are difficult ey?If the camera was straight down the line and you could see grass between ball and line that's fine. But the camera is at a stupid angle so you would be able to see grass even if about 1/4, maybe even 1/2 on the line.
Would this goal have been given if it was us? Would it feck
Stopping play as the Newcastle player was walking off injured? What's that about?
Poor lad has only just come on and looks like his shoulder has gone again.
Why is he stopping the game for a shoulder, just let him walk off the pitch FFS.
It is the rule.
Remember that goal Sancho scored against Chelsea on the break where Rashford was doing Rashford things and standing offside, so Sancho couldn't pass to him.
Eddie Howe leaning on Murphy's shoulder then patting him on it too
That's the gap between the base of the ball and the line. The base of the ball isn't the part of the ball that is furthest forward.
You'd need a 3D image with a line drawn down from the centre of the ball to accurately tell.
Show a bit of mercy for the love of God
The problem as always, is consistency. You can’t have them saying it’s impossible to tell on some and then guessing for others.
Not sure why you're asking. We know the answer - see the Brighton game
But that's the only angle they have, and they ruled out a goal for Garnacho because of it.That doesn’t mean it’s out
Arteta has an Havertz equalizer fantasy in his head and will not let anything gets in the way
Straight arm with full extension in the back WTF?
Either way it's always guessing, they guessed it didn't go out now, they guessed it did with Garnacho. It's the shitty grey area of football we're forced to accept
My favorite part of lurking here is seeing this board turn every event of every other game into a pity party about man utd.
That's not out according to the rules. It is out if you imagine looking from the top of the ball and you can see green between the ball and the line. Basically the projection of the circumference of the ball onto the pitch.
Arsenal look bereft of ideas.
You are up against a country which actively promotes modern slavery and another country that butchers journalists and pack them into suitcase. Do you think these people ego will let them lose football matches? Any game that involves City and Newcastle will have decisions which will look odd. That sequence of checks would have resulted in no goal if it was Arsenal or Manutd.
This was not even checked
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/s/1dLL5c3wdv
I assume you’re referring to the Rashford one against Brighton? That’s the point though, they shouldn’t be guessing. If they aren’t sure it went out, play on.
Again, sounds like an easy fix.
It's almost like you're on a Manchester United forum.My favorite part of lurking here is seeing this board turn every event of every other game into a pity party about man utd.
That's the craziest part
Such an easy foul to callIf they’re saying they can’t conclusively tell whether the ball is out of play, why bother including that in the VAR check?
We’ve literally had a goal disallowed in the same circumstances this season.My favorite part of lurking here is seeing this board turn every event of every other game into a pity party about man utd.
Because most of the time, they can tell.
How ? The entirely of the pitch would have to be 3D and have quick time rendering. I don't think it's that easy
Hard to feel sorry for them given what Gabriel got away with vs Hojlund and the Rice foul on Evans in their winning goal.That's the craziest part