All that says is that managers think he's good
Maguire | he stays!
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran are here to talk about a frustrating 2 points dropped at Crystal Palace. They then discuss the regeneration of Old Trafford. Finally, Nik is joined by special guest Michael Statham from the Football Oranje podcast - who gives us a more in depth look at our EL opposition FC Twente, and then runs through the (many) Dutch connections currently at United.
They should have been doing that before the window even opened,we lost out on a fantastic CB because couldn't sell him
I think West Ham are looking at Sutalo as is Arsenal so I think they have moved away from Maguire and they were likely the only show in town. We are stuck with another player here until that bumper contract runs out.
Shamrock Rovers would take him I reckon.
We all know Phil Jagielka was the real GOAT CB to Moyes
Should've taken the 20m.
It’s come to a point where I’m not sure if he’s trying to tank his value or not.
Surely it’s not Maguire himself blocking a move away. He’s not blind to the level of criticism that comes his way in a United shirt and he’s looked bereft of confidence on the pitch for a long time now, despite what he says in interviews.
Ah man not doing his price tag any good is he
Paycuts are not easy to take
Take the 20 million and run
Yep. He’s won the lottery at Utd. Unbelievably incompetent bit of business by the club. Another gift from Ed Woodward.
Every second he plays drives his price down further. Should've just given his minutes to some youngster and let clubs fall into the trap of "Maybe he could fit us?"
If the conspiracy theory about playing Sancho as false 9 to show the owners we need a new striker is true, then ETH is surely playing Maguire to convince owners to take whatever offer is on the table and run.
Why are you so sure? If i had a big money contract i would try to do my best to keep it. I dont think Maguire is too happy to give up a big contract, the commercial opportunities a Manchester United receives and the prestige of being a Manchester United player to become a West Ham player for David Moyes? I wouldnt. I dont like Maguire and i want him gone but i can fully understand if he decides to stay. I dont blame him one bit for that.
Why is he even being given minutes? ETH should tell him that fighting for his place is no longer an option, and to find a new club or rot in the reserves.
He just set up United's goal!
Pay up cnuts
Too bad he’s at fault for the first
I wonder how many goals he’s costs us passing out from the back thinking he’s prime Rio
Got two assists today.
I'd take 50m minimum
I'd take 50m minimum
So he’s playing 4d chess. Moyes could do with a target man.
Maguire's value has now gone up due to his last second assist 
Cool, I guess that invalidates everything I've ever said about him not being good enough
Assist against Bilbao. That’s fecking £10m additional on the price tag since everyone plays that game
No, it just means give him credit when due and shit when it's also due
Correction, he actually has two assists today.Assist against Bilbao. That’s fecking £10m additional on the price tag since everyone plays that game
Im willing to bet 99% of professional footballers have an high opinion of themselves and you only have to look at the statements hes released to see that but that aside, the fact he beleives he can still force his way in to the managers plans despite clearly not being fancied shows he clearly has more faith in his abilites than most of us do.
West Ham (or any buying club) can sweet talk a player all they want with high wages and how much they want a player only to make a crap bid they know probably wont be accepted. Understandable any player would be annoyed in that situation.
True enough, but he doesn’t strike me as a proper pay cheque player. Not to the extent that he’s willing to take the level of abuse he gets and destroy his career.
I mean, I’m not sure, but he must know there is no prestige whatsoever in his position right now. There is far more prestige for him in playing for England and that’s already being questioned, it’s only a matter of time until he loses that if things carry on as they are. He can continue to play for England at West Ham, not so much when he’s benchwarming and getting second-string runouts in the League Cup.
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I don't think this overall awful performance with an assist will make people feel any different.
Great job getting an assist to his name, other than that, he was below-below average. He just always looks stiff, awkward and a problem waiting to explode whenever he has to pass, defend anyone or literally do anything on the pitch.
Again, nice job on the assist though I guess?
Hardly what happened. We said no to Mourinho’s transfer wishes because the relationship with the manager was turning sour and all the players he wanted at the club ended up performing badly, to the point where he wanted them replaced. Hell bent on signing Sanchez, who ended up playing (badly) on the left wing and having a negative impact on both Rashford and Martials form, a star signing underperforming so badly, and at extreme wages, it was hardly much of a surprise that the higher ups weren’t eager to jump on any of his other wishes. We had just spent large fees on both Bailly and Lindelof, neither of them performing well, and then his solution was to spend a record fee on a player that he could’ve signed instead of either Bailly or Lindelof, for much less money, as Maguire moved to for around £12mill the same year we spent £30mill on Lindelof, a year after we signed Bailly for over £30mill.
In terms of Maguire now, he’s in a hole he’s never digging himself out of, his performances are miles below what he’s capable of but he looks devoid of any confidence whatsoever.
I dont get the point in playing him. Keep him from the squad like Bailly and Fred so he gets the message that he is not wanted anymore.
First it giveth, then it taketh away…
We need to get an acceptable bid for him to let him go. No point selling him if it does not make sense according to ffp rules
I didn't see the first half so I can't comment on what happened in that, but there was noting wrong with the second half performance, does it mean he's good enough to be at United, no it doesn't, but if you're gonna point out the shite then you should also do the same with the good
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Send him to a distant outpost. Alaska. By the end of the day. Just send him his clothes.
He made the odd error but played pretty well especially at the end. To say he played like a captain wouldn’t be inaccurate imo. If he goes to the right club he will do very well, surely.
An acceptable bid is presumably the amortized amount of what remains on the original transfer fee. So, something like 1/3 of £80m.
It looks a bit high given his age & because he was never actually worth £80m, but might be workable.
I don't know what you're waffling on about - and I'm not going to read all that. Woodward said no to Maguire initially when Moyes wanted to pursue him - and then again when Mourinho wanted to. Woodward just wasn't feeling Maguire, it's OK
Yup, just about.
That ofcourse includes variable factors such as WHU matching his wages or him accepting a paycut. Not to mention him considering himself not to be above the level of the current europa champions.
Footballers have a limited span for when they can make living off of playing, so can understand when players tend to look at making what they can in that time span and also being at one of the top clubs in the world same holds true also for players that they have a limited time on when they will be able play day in and day out. Easy enough to say but, at this point, with pretty much everything stacked against him as it is, manager on his pecking order amongst CBs, the fans overall and his continued mistakes on the pitch for the club, if I was him I'd be looking to compromise on the money enough to get out, go somewhere where a manager wants him as the starting CB.
Almost feel sorry for him, seems an honest enough person but, he has to recognize his time really is up here and do what he can to get to a team where he will play, especially with Euros next year, the last major tournament he might have a shot at being a starter with a manager who will give him every chance.
Almost feel sorry for him, seems an honest enough person but, he has to recognize his time really is up here and do what he can to get to a team where he will play, especially with Euros next year, the last major tournament he might have a shot at being a starter with a manager who will give him every chance.