What does Maguire "playing well" even mean anymore? Seems some think him doing the very basis is "playing well". The standards for him are on the floor. I really hope he leaves soon.
Bizarre people are saying “he played well” for not fecking up in the second half like he did in the first to give away a goal. Literally the bare minimum for a defender is to not make unforced errors. And he couldn’t even do that.
It's like a trouble maker at school getting praised for going a day without getting into trouble. He gets praised for doing well just for going 45 minutes without being a calamityWhat does Maguire "playing well" even mean anymore? Seems some think him doing the very basis is "playing well". The standards for him are on the floor. I really hope he leaves soon.
...in the second half.That's it. Imagine saying the world's most expensive CB played well because he didn't feck up...
I don't think he was any good in the 2nd tbh, that's where we must differ.I didn't see the first half so I can't comment on what happened in that, but there was noting wrong with the second half performance, does it mean he's good enough to be at United, no it doesn't, but if you're gonna point out the shite then you should also do the same with the good
Maguire always keeps both teams on their toes so yeah we need a couple more threads.Do we have enough Maguire threads? Nah we need a couple more.
...in the second half.
I wouldn’t say his career is over, more like it’s over with us, he’s West Ham/Everton standard.. he’d actually do well at Newcastle, could see him there and scoring against us.He's finished and deservedly so. He thinks he's brilliant and has nothing to prove, his career is over.
I don't know what you're waffling on about - and I'm not going to read all that. Woodward said no to Maguire initially when Moyes wanted to pursue him - and then again when Mourinho wanted to. Woodward just wasn't feeling Maguire, it's OK
Moyes said: "We didn’t try to sign him [when at Man United] but we flagged him up at that time.
"I was very aware of the players in the lower leagues and had a made good career out of bringing them to Everton - whether that be Tim Cahill or all the ones we did through the years.
"Harry Maguire was another one I recognised. He played against Preston North End at home in a league game and I watched him and thought he played really well but at that time he was really big – he had a big a***.
To be fair he looks in terrific shape and he hasn’t changed at all really. When I went to United, we had Vidic, Rio, Jonny Evans, Michael Keane, Phil Jones, Chris Smalling
"So for us to go and buy another young centre-half wasn’t the biggest thing we needed at the time.
"And Harry Maguire has had to go on his journey. Sometimes the players need the journey to get to where they have to go. He might have struggled then."
I'm not his biggest defender, he apparently fecked up in the first half but I'm not going to comment and be critical on something I didn't see, he didn't feck up in the second half which I did see, does that mean he's good enough, no it doesn't, should be sold, yes he should, does he deserve all the crap he gets, not IMOIt's honestly hilarious. Funny that his biggest defender on here also claims he missed the first half, and thought he was totally fine in the second half, so couldn't understand the criticism.
We did play half of the second half a man up.I'm not his biggest defender, he apparently fecked up in the first half but I'm not going to comment and be critical on something I didn't see, he didn't feck up in the second half which I did see, does that mean he's good enough, no it doesn't, should be sold, yes he should, does he deserve all the crap he gets, not IMO
Bizarre people are saying “he played well” for not fecking up in the second half like he did in the first to give away a goal. Literally the bare minimum for a defender is to not make unforced errors. And he couldn’t even do that.
I'm not his biggest defender, he apparently fecked up in the first half but I'm not going to comment and be critical on something I didn't see, he didn't feck up in the second half which I did see, does that mean he's good enough, no it doesn't, should be sold, yes he should, does he deserve all the crap he gets, not IMO
Not a chance in hell if someone actually watched the first half.Agree. It is a bit sad and a bit funny at the same time that Maguire can have a good game when he didnt give a goal away in one half of football. If the goalkeeper had saved the goal his game would even be called a good game despite giving away a huge chance. Compare that to the standard some other players have to live up to...
Strange because you mentioned something I saidNot sure what this rant is about tbh, as it wasn't directed at you.
Not sure why some are pretending that Woodward meddled, one of the root causes for the lack of value from the money we’ve spent over the years on transfers, and wages, is that we’ve gone to extreme lengths to sign whoever the, quite different, managers wanted at the time, rather than having a clear plan for the type of football we want to play and bringing in suitable players identified by our scouts. If Moyes had actually wanted Maguire at the time, we’d have signed him.
Strange because you mentioned something I said
McTominay b2b is actually excellent for them, to be fair, so it makes sense. He also doesn't come with confidence issues - quite sure he'd go there and thrive.Homegrown is apparently a big concern for them that is constraining their squad size currently, I read, they'd definitely need to add a couple of those... Buying British is maybe not just Moyes being an old conservative fool though to be fair I did read a passionate plea from a fan that buying expensive PL veterans with no resale value is a problem, economics-wise.
Some think that McTominay would be a good complement to Alvarez in that midfield playing the B2B piston. He counts as homegrown (right ?), is not too old yet and probably is at the right level of wages for them even with a raise. I think West Ham will continue showing interest this window and can probably go so far as 35m£ for him which I think is fair (if below United asking price).
As people usually say... I'd drive them down to London if we got 60 million for them both
This kind of money would be absolutely outstanding business. A lot more than I thought we would be getting. I'd immediately ship them, before West Ham change their mind.
that's a fuking no brainer if you can get 60m for the two of them
Ask for £35 mill for Maguire and offer £5 mill to Maguire to sweeten the loss of wages. This might give him the nudge and we still get the money to buy Amrabat.
Same here. In fact I'm ready to give them Maguire for free given his wages. Really good business if we could sell him and McT for that money.This kind of money would be absolutely outstanding business. A lot more than I thought we would be getting. I'd immediately ship them, before West Ham change their mind.
