Three of the five players you mentioned are all but gone.
Maguire | he stays!
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Three of the five players you mentioned are all but gone.
Maguire is great when he’s in a left back position…. left back in the dressing room 
He probably isn’t. It isn’t a priority position in terms of incomings, and you’re not finding a better fourth choice centre half than Maguire with great ease.
I doubt Ten Hag is too arsed either way, to be honest. Next summer may well be different, though.
Wasn't ETH asked the question about Harry being in his plans by a journalist? To say “no comment” or something along them lines is maybe as bad as saying nothing.
I don’t think he’s been asked about Fred, Elanga etc as the media don’t give a f about them.
In terms of Maguire staying, as a 4th choice CB its not ideal, but not exactly season defining. Tbh our wages handling has been terrible and probably why we can’t shift him. Hopefully we’ve learnt our lesson going forward.
Or right back.....right back behind the standsMaguire is great when he’s in a left back position…. left back in the dressing room
As i mentioned couple of times already, that is the only thing which i don't like with Erik so far. I am delighted with his reign but i don't like the fact that he is doing exact thing what Ole did. He wants huge squad depth and he will keep expensive player (who is not even suited for his system) as backup of the backup just because he wants to have numbers.
Maguire is 30 years old. His value will drop in a year because of lack of games and because of his age. If you are keeping him for emergency (potential injuries) then it is not good business for club. That is why our sales are so bad. We sell only players who are completely out of manager's plans. And those are the ones who worth nothing usually.
I do understand Erik's thinking there. His job is on the line so of course that he plays it safe. Who wouldn't want to have Maguire as 5th option? But that is situation where DoF and CEO must step up. They must say to him; "Sorry Erik but it is bad business for club".
Or centre back...Or right back.....right back behind the stands
Cent 'im back home?
I'll leave.
I don’t think he wants ‘huge squad depth’. I think what he wants is four good centre halves. Who wouldn’t?
If the club receives a large enough offer for Maguire then there’s no doubt it will do business. But Maguire would need to agree to it, and then we’d need to bring in a replacement. There’s a lot of variables.
Ten Hag has little to do with whether or not Maguire leaves, ultimately. The only things he can do is play other players ahead of him and choose a new captain, which he has done already.
Spot on. As a manager this is his way of showing him the door. Then it's up to the agents, the management and the board to get him out of the club. But Maguire has million of reasons to stay...
except the window is now open and maguire hasn't been getting games - so not similar at all, if you ask me
so what's going on, genius? you think if ETH says he wants Maguire to stay, someone will suddenly bid £30m for him?
and you think someone will be fooled by that? and will magcially suddenly think: "wow, maguire is worth £30m, let's buy him"
Well he’s hardly going to say “I want slabhead gone, hopefully we can con someone into paying a fee for him and get his rid of him and his massive wages”.
If they can’t sell him, he will be left with a disgruntled former captain stinking the place next year. Look at Eddie Howe, “we want Maxi to stay”; the following day they had agreed a deal (albeit with their owners).
yeh... I think that bit in brackets makes a huge difference - it also, of course could give Newcastle extra Fair Play protection. And to be fair, I reckon Saint Max is a somewhat better player than Maguire. No one is going to be fooled by ETH saying: "Oh, actually, Maguire is a brilliant player, I just didn't play him because I didn't feel like it..."
Just search what he said about Ronaldo and De Gea.
No serious professional will publicly disclose his plans and intentions.
and he got a total of £0.00 for that pair
Different circumstances and still massive net positive for the club.
More bothered about the 800k a week off the wage bill I’d say….
Harry out and Jonny in as the new 5th choice really wouldn’t be too bad. Would fill a gap for the season until we invest in a young CB next summer.
Keep pushing Moyeseh
I agree with this. I've seen a lot of posters questioning the Evans signing but I think he would be a good replacement for Maguire. Can play both rcb and lcb too.
Better not be a loan
Push harder lads, like £30m more harder.
I’m blanking out, who’s 4th choice? Shaw?
Set a price to expire a few days before deadline and he’ll come back on deadline day with £5m more.
Easy money…….
West Ham should give us £70m and we will send them Maguire, and McTominay. £35m each is not too shabby at all.
yeah should be the going rate for both. West Ham are cheap cnuts so they’ll probably bid 5-10m for Maguire, if they do bid. Feckers wanted him on loan, the audacity.
If we can get £30-35m for him, we should grab it with both hands.
At this point, whenever he starts or comes on in defence, a sense of nervousness comes over most fans, he doesn’t suit our current style and a fresh start somewhere else will do him some good.
My guess is Uniteds “He is a key player” stance is just a way of not under valuing him and they hope to get a decent fee closer to the end of the transfer window.
At this point, whenever he starts or comes on in defence, a sense of nervousness comes over most fans, he doesn’t suit our current style and a fresh start somewhere else will do him some good.
My guess is Uniteds “He is a key player” stance is just a way of not under valuing him and they hope to get a decent fee closer to the end of the transfer window.
I mean West Ham initially wanted a loan with us paying half the wages their probably offering some garbage fee
Well go back a couple fo months and there were a fair few people sayin ghe is 3 and rubbish and we wont get over 20m for him with the "tell me who would take him then". Friends at work who are Hammers fans dont want him and think they already have better centre backs....which I find funny....
I never wanted us to sign Maguie at the time. There were several better centre backs we could have gone for at the time, and nearly all of them would have been cheaper, several far cheaper. There is no avoiding the fact he has been very poor in a United shirt beyod a reasonable start....I thought it was a case of his confidence shattered and feeling the pressure, but you listen to him in interviews and he genuinely seems that deluded that I dont think that is the case....but
I still feel, he is a good defender and would actually be a really good signing for several sides, decent sides that could afford him SPurs, Newcastle, West Ham....think he would actually do well at any of them....I get the feeling we probably do want a little too much just because of wht we spent...but I think £25m+ considering his age we should be accepting, even though in the current market as bad as he has been he should still be £30-40m....Maguire/Bailly/Telles sales should in itself be decent enough fees to buy a good young centre back, think there ar eplenty of them about and we dont need and other defenders other than a second choice centre back I feel....the need for a right back isnt so paramount I feel now. Bissaka is starting to progress towards the signing I originally thought he would be whenwe boght him, unlike Maguire, he was a signin gI was really happy we made at the time
Maguire should be sold if just so the pre match punditry of every game he’s given a start in doesn’t revolve around how this is a great opportunity to prove ten Hag wrong and he’s an England international and we just feel bad for the situation he’s in and he’s a great lad who just wants to play football
I hope United negotiators don’t overplay their hand with “very important squad players” and trying to big up their value.
Both should be sold and we can’t afford to turn the only takers away by playing games.
Both should be sold and we can’t afford to turn the only takers away by playing games.
I cannot wait to play this man when he signs for some relegation fodder. He has to stay in the prem. (In before he scores against us).
He's a fullback, he may have covered CB very well, but he is not our 3rd choice CB. There's a reason we were after CBs earlier in the season, we want natural ones. If Maguire leaves we'll get another.
Come on moyseh, finally do some good for United.
I do actually think he’ll improve West Ham to be honest
I do actually think he’ll improve West Ham to be honest
Why not? People complain we give players away for peanuts, and considering West Ham is recently minted, they should cough up.
I think Harry will thrive in the Moyes setup.
He’d be a fantastic signing for them. Seems to be getting lost in the meme bullshit in here. Mctominay I’m not convinced by - Newcastle seem a better fit with their style.