No. He's a businessmen. He's probably a casual United fan. I don't see it an issue. More importantly his bid looks a bit weak, the rest is irrelevant.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
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No. He's a businessmen. He's probably a casual United fan. I don't see it an issue. More importantly his bid looks a bit weak, the rest is irrelevant.
fecking hell that's shocking. Completely misses the point as well that the West aren't trying to force their values on Qatar. Qatar are coming to the West of their own free will this time around.
Thanks for the more easily readable comparison than the one in my link!
I became a United fan in July/august 92. Spent a few years before switching every 5 minutes so decided to base it purely on what kit I liked best, loved the blue away with black crest so bought that and became a fan.
That is true, but if Qatar really want the club I’m fairly confident they’ll outbid anyone.
I agree with this. I do not see much problems with that, but I also do not see why he should get bonus points cause he is ‘a United fan’. He is a businessman doing what is best for his businesses (same as other biders). The bid should be judged on merits on how much investment they will make at United and the local community, not on whose team they support or how far from Old Trafford was the hospital where they will born.
No. Why should it? It didn’t seem likely United would be up for sale then and it would’ve naturally been at a more competitive price anyway. Also if bidding or buying other clubs is exclusionary, then I’ve some news about Qatar.
Personally I think both charm offensives are largely irrelevant, and also very much elaborated. But if we’re GOING to do that whole thing, the one with a proven track record of obviously really liking football seems a better offensive than “look, he’s wearing this seasons shirt!”…. in the scheme of things
And a guy says he will clear all the debt and put every profit into helping the club is being forensically examined on the authenticity of his claim to be a fan. Welcome to Redcafe.United's debt was major concern for all fans for years.
"We want club without debt!!"
Then comes a news where a guy will buy a club with another debt without clearing current debt.
Same fans; "Not every debt is bad". Ffs
Think Bloomberg posted an article last week about how Qatar were interested in investing in an NBA franchise and how Qatar's Emir was a big basketball fan.
I suppose what I find most startling is how so many Utd fans seem to take the Qataris for their word yet don't take anyone else for their word.
Like when Ratcliffe said that Ineos would take on the debt, not Utd. We have Utd fans on here then saying that they're skeptical and that the debt will end up on Utd's books in the long-run.
If you're so cynical about Ratcliffe and "hedge funds" (Put these in inverted commas as I'm fairly sure there are people on here who couldn't accurately define what it is that an actual hedge fund actually does; they just end up conflating hedge funds with private equity, and private equity with 1980s-style leveraged buyouts), why drop the cynicism when it comes to the Qataris?
I suppose what I find most startling is how so many Utd fans seem to take the Qataris for their word yet don't take anyone else for their word.
Like when Ratcliffe said that Ineos would take on the debt, not Utd. We have Utd fans on here then saying that they're skeptical and that the debt will end up on Utd's books in the long-run.
If you're so cynical about Ratcliffe and "hedge funds" (Put these in inverted commas as I'm fairly sure there are people on here who couldn't accurately define what it is that an actual hedge fund actually does; they just end up conflating hedge funds with private equity, and private equity with 1980s-style leveraged buyouts), why drop the cynicism when it comes to the Qataris?
One look at the replies to Adam's tweets make me question how he does it every day. It's constant homophobia.
I personally do not care what team they support. I just find hypocritical this PR that Radcliffe is this big United fan (who was a season ticket holder at Chelsea and wanted to buy them) while that sheikh cannot be a United fan.
Who cares if they are or not. The important thing is what is the vision for United and how much they are willing to invest in United and the local community in Manchester.
Yeah he's got thicker skin that I have
"I listen to the little boy within – and he screamed Man United.
- Sheikh Jassim bin Hamad al-Thani
- Sheikh Jassim bin Hamad al-Thani
I love the Irish guy saying he'd prefer a local owner to a foreign one.
I don’t want to watch.
Jim wants United ideally but he's interested in various sports and a PL club is top of his list. It's not uncommon for people to move and adopt a second team. He's a rich guy in west London, into top sports, of course he has a ticket at Chelsea and mingles with lots of others.
He's also grumbled about the cost of PL clubs, United have not been for sale for a long time and he had a belated attempt at Chelsea and also he's been involved in two other clubs to learn how to run for the eventual big club. It's really top sports he wants for branding and personal involvement/interest, He's involved F1 Mercedes.
Lewis Hamilton is not a fan of United but is keen to invest in various clubs given the opportunity. It's about business, having a vested interest in top sport, doing something with your life and money so when the opportunity arises you make an attempt even if it's not your preferred team. Sir Jim has other motives with branding Ineos. If he fails this move he could easily turn his attention to other PL clubs.
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Sterling was rumoured to be a United fan, yet he played for both Liverpool and City (Added Chelsea in also).
Sounded Northern Irish to me, so same passport and all!
He once hit a tree from 100 yards away and just walked away with a smile on his face.
We have already tried to match them and now we are in a bit of financial mess. While for City, it doesn’t matter.
We cant match City financially for a long term period without causing financial issues. Question is do we need to?
Ratcliffe should consider financing Middlesbrough fc or a Scottish team. Ineos pollute there the most
Nothing wrong with that.
Look at Nice and look at PSG. All this talk of SJR won’t do the same to Man Utd as he’s done to Nice, there’s no guarantees. I would say there is evidence to suggest the Qataris will back up what they say.
Lets say SJR wins the bid, does he load even more debt on his company for the stadium and training ground? Where’s the money coming from for that? Or is a loan taken on by the club?
If you wanted additional funding for transfers to be provided by the owners, SJR is less likely to do that.
Sprinkle a little bit of borderline racism in there at the end by the Irish geezer. He wants Ratcliffe a “local” owner (from London) as opposed to a “foreign” guy coming in. I wonder if that fan wants Utd to have all local players as well and a local manager rather than these foreign players we keep bringing over.
He said that he had split allegiance a bit like a true man utd supporter who also supports Liverpool or City
He's from Manchester I don't know how many times people need telling, and there's nothing racist about what he said.
Yeah, after seeing all this shit about Jim's offer; nothing much will change around the club.
Qatar PR is top notch
Ratcliffe is from the Greater Manchester, now he does live abroad.
And just ignore the part about him wanting no one “foreign”?
I think leaving out the rest of the debate, Ratcliffe is not a stupid man, but he left it until beyond the deadline to bid for Chelsea. I would say that it was just as possible that it was very intentional as a signal to the Glazers.
Is that going to be an issue for Qatar? PSG celebrates LGBTQ+ community events and has better women team than United.
Laurie Whitwell was just on Sky and he seems to think there could be more bidders out there. Also mentioned that Glazers staying is a possibility if they don't get the right price. Qatar and Ratcliffe won't overpay.
It's about as racist as preferring to support local when choosing a restaurant.
Your Just searching for attention by playing the racism card.
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