His statement for buying Chelsea is also much more generous and compelling than the shit he put out to try and buy us. If he was a United fan first he certainly isn't anymore.
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The first cable package anywhere to show English football matches abroad was not launched until the 94-95 season and the SA broadcast didn't get it until the deal with sky when one of the Rugby leagues went pro in 1995.
SJR reportedly around 4bln
Qatar reportedly around 5bln with funding to increase and also invest in the areas needed.
Still not selling his bid enough,need to hear talk about stadium investment that competes with Qatar
There was documentary that showed how a father could install illegal cable TV on February 7th 1991 - Lisa and The Eight Commandments - so it may have been possible?
You'll notice he got that to watch American football, not English football!
No we don’t.
I bet folk had the internet back then on the sly.
The best candidate who isn't Qatar or Saudi Arabia (or any other state).
United's debt was major concern for all fans for years.
"We want club without debt!!"
Then comes a news where a guy will buy a club with another debt without clearing current debt.
Same fans; "Not every debt is bad". Ffs
"We want club without debt!!"
Then comes a news where a guy will buy a club with another debt without clearing current debt.
Same fans; "Not every debt is bad". Ffs
So you’re saying all those FA Cup finals and big division 1 as well as early PL matches we watched live in the 80’s and early 90’s on our National free TV here in Malaysia were, in fact, deep fake or AI generated content?
I think that will be entirely up to the buyer. I would assume INEOS wouldn’t list as they aren’t listed themselves. I don’t know how the Qatar bid would proceed.
We won’t be able to come close to their level of spending should they win this case against the PL. That essentially unshackles them from any spending restraints they currently have in place.
Yeah will agree it should have been stopped before City got bought in 2008,however it's now part of modern football ownership so accept the situation
To be fair the PL only invented football in 1992 and it didn’t exist before then so it’s possible.
I suggest you reread the comment you're replying to and have a little think.
I have zero issue with the idea that he could have been supporting United in the early 90's or before.
It is however quite fortuitous that the year he became a United fan was '92, a year in the club's history that has already been heavily branded in recent times, allowing him to incorporate that concept into his his bid. And it will seem even more fortuitous if, purely hypothetically, any members of the class of 92 who have no issue taking Qatari money lend their name to this ownership group in the future.
But hey, maybe I'm just unfairly cynical about the sincerity of this totally-not-state-backed good samaritan with a mysterious pool of cash.
It is however quite fortuitous that the year he became a United fan was '92, a year in the club's history that has already been heavily branded in recent times, allowing him to incorporate that concept into his his bid. And it will seem even more fortuitous if, purely hypothetically, any members of the class of 92 who have no issue taking Qatari money lend their name to this ownership group in the future.
But hey, maybe I'm just unfairly cynical about the sincerity of this totally-not-state-backed good samaritan with a mysterious pool of cash.
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My story too
Thank you for your interference, why don't you just feck off.
As I explained, of the two bids we know of, the Qatar bid is far, far superior to Jimbo/Ineos. I will resereve the right to change my mind if circumstances change rather than make a decision and stick by it whatever.
My bad, did not notice the emphasis on Cable TV.
Insulting another member
To be honest, I couldn't give a feck about you and the other so-called moralists. You, Wum et al can all feck off.This bloke was agreeing State ownership was absolutely despicable and hated everything those clubs stand for (along with the fans that support them), yet all it took was a Qatari bid for United to make him change his mind.
Someone becoming fan around 91 or 92 makes sense since it matches with a continental trophy. At the time you were more likely to see foreign clubs in continental competitions.
I would have thought if only the Glazer shares are bought then the remaining shares, at least, would still need to be listed?
Trouble is state ownership has aready been allowed, the horse has bolted.
To be fair the PL only invented football in 1992 and it didn’t exist before then so it’s possible.
Yes, I got it, thank you!
I mean, you have to laugh at people questioning the credibility of of support of someone who’s willing to cough up somewhere between £4b-£6b to purchase the club. For me, you could have started supporting United 10 minutes ago after supporting Liverpool all your life, but the second you cough up that amount of money to purchase the club makes you a pretty staunch supporter regardless I’d say.
So come on then you plastic bastards, you might have been supporting United for years but when was the last time you spent £5b on the club?
So come on then you plastic bastards, you might have been supporting United for years but when was the last time you spent £5b on the club?
Stretty News posted this opinion piece earlier, it's since been edited, but you can read the original here.
Not sure how we can accept comments like the one this twitter user has highlighted as a fan base to be honest. How are trans supporters of the club supposed to feel reading bile like this?
@Rampant Red Rodriguez I really don’t feel the need to prove anything, I’m not here to argue or posture - but here is the information I was referring to. As you can see the debt is simply for liquidity and on INEOS books not the clubs, and the current glazer debt is specifically referred to. To my mind this means United would be debt free.
I think the Ratcliffe bid has loads of questions to answer, but I also don’t really see the idea he went to watch Chelsea a lot as as much of a problem as it’s being made to be - particularly by weirdos online who are comparing it with that Qatar dude wearing this seasons United shirt as some kinda Gotcha!… people who like football go and watch football, in places where there’s a lot of football on. Often at the closest convenience. I know loads of people who go to non-United games. I’ve done it. My dad does it… My great uncle’s partner got a season ticket to Brentford despite supporting Arsenal cos he lived closer and it was easier. it’s not necessarily some great hypocrisy, particularly among older people who grew up in 60s supporter culture… Unless he was standing in the shed end in a Chelsea shirt singing their one song, it seems kinda immaterial…. The kind of thing some supporters who don’t go to a lot of games think matters more than it does to supporters who do.
None of which is saying his bid is faultless of course.
None of which is saying his bid is faultless of course.
Unless I missed something, these aren't ITKs. But a group of fans that read articles and share their opinions. IIRC it's the ones that were protesting at Woodward's house.
Who is accepting it though, its one writers opinion and there will always be people full of stupid ideas. We're a club with millions of fans, there are always going to be idiots in that group, every club has them.
Stretty News are for a start.
We really do not know this. It is possible that it is a full buyout. In fact, the board of directors can decide a fixed price for share to sell the club. The shareholders must agree, but with Glazers controlling most of the shares, only the votes of them matter. So the other investors would be forced to sell even if they do not want*. It is actually what happened when the Glazers bought the club (or for example, when Musk bought Twitter).
* In truth, they would be glad to sell for around twice the club’s value a few months back. It is why many people bought shares in anticipation for this takeover.
What about him bidding to buy Chelsea last year? Do you see it as a problem for a self-proclaimed United fan?
The last week has entirely justified why I have become more ambivalent to the Glazers’ ownership of our clubs. They are parasitic leeches, who should have never been able to buy us in the manner they did, but we could have far worse owners. If Qatar buys us, we will have become everything we hate.
It’s sad to see many just pretending the Qatari regime isn’t what it is, and are suddenly willing to twerk for them if it means United being super charged financially once again. With the size United are now, you are very unlikely to find a super clean owner, but if the choice if between Radcliffe and Qatar then there would be no choice to be made. And Radcliffe is hypocritical, Brexit supporting prick.
It’s sad to see many just pretending the Qatari regime isn’t what it is, and are suddenly willing to twerk for them if it means United being super charged financially once again. With the size United are now, you are very unlikely to find a super clean owner, but if the choice if between Radcliffe and Qatar then there would be no choice to be made. And Radcliffe is hypocritical, Brexit supporting prick.
Worrying that we're already seeing comments like this and they haven't even completed the take over yet. utdreport one of the biggest United fan accounts also posted this article.
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