justsomebloke
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PSG is a shitshow of a club - everything I hope we do not turn into.Why would anyone want some loser whose leading a 7th place Nice when they can get the serial winners at PSG?
PSG is a shitshow of a club - everything I hope we do not turn into.Why would anyone want some loser whose leading a 7th place Nice when they can get the serial winners at PSG?
The principle won't change. FFP hasn't disappeared. Earned income will dictate the spendingof course. But it was always earned income. Not from a benefactor.
Maybe give it time before condemning ownershiphttps://www.theguardian.com/footbal...d-be-a-disaster-just-look-at-the-state-of-psg
Man's got a point. PSG is a shitshow, and it's sooooo easy envisaging how quickly United would become the same kind if shitshow under the Qataris.
So we have to rely on hope just as we hope that the 800m loan from JP Morgan won't hurt us and that the Chelsea season ticket holder has united's best interests at heartProbably non. But it doesn’t mean their / his intentions are the same for United.
One can also that Man Utd is a far far bigger than PSG at the time of their purchase so we are in uncharted territory.PSG is a shitshow of a club - everything I hope we do not turn into.
What is Nice FC state?https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...d-be-a-disaster-just-look-at-the-state-of-psg
Man's got a point. PSG is a shitshow, and it's sooooo easy envisaging how quickly United would become the same kind if shitshow under the Qataris.
So who do you want to own usFeel the same way. Especially because its all so unnecessary. Even with the Glazer handicap we have won stuff with SAF and under Ten Hag we will again. Even with the Glazers, I reckon Ten Hag would get us there. All we need is someone to remove the Glazer handicap and let us flourish. We don't need piles of cash chucked our way on the condition that we sell our souls to Qatar.
Screw that. No point having an opinion once it's done. And they've owned PSG for years.Maybe give it time before condemning ownership
They absolutely benefited. But the funny thing is they are still chaotic.That's what I meant basically. PSG was still a big club but truly chaotic, inconsistent and nowhere as recognized and loved as right now.
The Qataris have their fault and have done many wrong things but overall ? There is no way to say PSG hasn't benefited from their ownership. It would be idiotic to do so
Did I make a point about Nice?What is Nice FC state?
And how are Nice doing in that league.https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...d-be-a-disaster-just-look-at-the-state-of-psg
Man's got a point. PSG is a shitshow, and it's sooooo easy envisaging how quickly United would become the same kind if shitshow under the Qataris.
No point having an opinion now either then. These proceedings are beyond us now and always but our opinions can still be expressedScrew that. No point having an opinion once it's done. And they've owned PSG for years.
Not in the same way you are a Man United fan or I am a Chelsea fan.6. Ratcliffe is lifelong Man Utd fan, Jassim is lifelong Man Utd fan.
He needs to start laying out his plans IF he has any hopes of moving voters away from QatarRegarding SJ, what I read from twitter a few days back the loan amount is only to clear the existing debt and not the 5m being rumoured. Will ofcourse have to wait for any official information on that
yeah. They were taken from the brink of bankruptcy and turned into a megaclub. We on the other hand already are a megaclub. And they ARE a shitshow. All celebrity star power, no substance.That's what I meant basically. PSG was still a big club but truly chaotic, inconsistent and nowhere as recognized and loved as right now.
The Qataris have their fault and have done many wrong things but overall ? There is no way to say PSG hasn't benefited from their ownership. It would be idiotic to do so
no idea what anyone’s intentions are.What makes you think that the goal with United will change?
Now that years ago is a huge difference. At the time it went through rather smoothlyDon't be ridiculous. You didn't care, maybe. But in the real world there has been loads of ongoing coverage of their finances since day one, resulting in the stack of charges they are facing.
This is the part I'm interested in. What can be done with a club like ours.You have to wonder just what they could achieve with an already well established behemoth in United.
True. Once could say they managed their team (giving power to superstars basically) this way because they knew they were the best team in France most of the time.They absolutely benefited. But the funny thing is they are still chaotic.
All and all, the current PSG owners made tons of errors. The fact it's easy to dominate in France with so much money helped mask it partly. It would have been embarrassingly exposed in a stronger league.
inios revinue is 61bil. Any loan is chump change to them.So we have to rely on hope just as we hope that the 800m loan from JP Morgan won't hurt us and that the Chelsea season ticket holder has united's best interests at heart
The fact that United are far bigger and have the natural resources to compete.What makes you think that the goal with United will change?
Well then why are you bothering me at all for having one?No point having an opinion now either then. These proceedings are beyond us now and always but our opinions can still be expressed
Agreed. I found it absurd two weeks ago when people here rejected INOES because Nice are not having a great season and it's the same with other potential owners.The problem we have is that we are trying to draw conclusions from previous ownerships at different clubs (Nice and PSG) with very different situations than at Utd.
You actually think the impressivess of the statenent telks us something meaningful about....anything?This is the part I'm interested in. What can be done with a club like ours.
I must say, just by thier statement, Jassime sounded impressive. The emphasis on youth and community, alongside side all of the teams progress, was the one.
Just by the work they did on the statement, and the rest that followed by Mike Keegan, you can tell they're not here to mess about. They'll do things correctly.
Poor bloke will get belted from Ratcliffe's biggest supporters about the fact he didn't start supporting them until 92. Forgetting the fact he was not born until 82Not in the same way you are a Man United fan or I am a Chelsea fan.
Ratcliffe is a Chelsea season ticket holder and even tried to buy them. I'm sure he has some affection for Man United but let's not pretend he really gives that much of a shit.
As for Jassim I don't know. He might well be flying over to OT all the time, he's certainly got the resources to do it!
I just don't understand why some of the fans have convinced themselves that this Qatari group will reproduce the same model of ownership (star player based). Anything is possible, they could also be looking at what's happened at PSG and decide to do things a little differentlyyeah. They were taken from the brink of bankruptcy and turned into a megaclub. We on the other hand already are a megaclub. And they ARE a shitshow. All celebrity star power, no substance.
It's a crazy way of looking at things. The certainty of it all is based on feck allAgreed. I found it absurd two weeks ago when people here rejected INOES because Nice are not having a great season and it's the same with other potential owners.
Certainly sounds that way but unless by some absolute miracle they can prove it's funded by private investors then no way will they win over some fansThis is the part I'm interested in. What can be done with a club like ours.
I must say, just by thier statement, Jassime sounded impressive. The emphasis on youth and community, alongside side all of the teams progress, was the one.
Just by the work they did on the statement, and the rest that followed by Mike Keegan, you can tell they're not here to mess about. They'll do things correctly.
Progress destroyed in an instant? Blimeyhttps://www.theguardian.com/footbal...d-be-a-disaster-just-look-at-the-state-of-psg
Man's got a point. PSG is a shitshow, and it's sooooo easy envisaging how quickly United would become the same kind if shitshow under the Qataris.
It was the running of his current club which worried me at first,however it's now other thingsIt's a crazy way of looking at things. The certainty of it all is based on feck all
Yes.You actually think the impressivess of the statenent telks us something meaningful about....anything?
Some will not be swayed. That's their perogative. The fans who will stay will be the important ones.Certainly sounds that way but unless by some absolute miracle they can prove it's funded by private investors then no way will they win over some fans
Being concerned is understandable tbh.It was the running of his current club which worried me at first,however it's now other things
The Glazers has shown that United is still a huge global brand even if its a top 4 club. That's enough for a company engaged in a greenwashing process. What makes you think that Ratcliffe will dig deep in his financial pockets to seriously compete with the ME etc? He cannot be bothered to compete anywhere elseThe fact that United are far bigger and have the natural resources to compete.
I don't see why anyone would want to own a underpar United. It would be to the owners detriment.
People look at rich owners as banks who should buy clubs in order to pump huge money into them. But a guy can buy Nice and invest some money without trying to make them into another PSG.
Yet Ratcliffe is still borrowing money to get us and once he kick the bucket Ineos will have a club with no emotional ties to and who had saddled it with 800m debtinios revinue is 61bil. Any loan is chump change to them.
Pretty decent, 4 points off a European spot, ten away from third.And how are Nice doing in that league.