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Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion
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Jesus fecking christ
That thread wouldn't make it past a couple of pages.
I said "stronger and closer alliance" with these regimes. I never said that other European governments were free of the blame.Yep, you'd certainly never see Germany or France (or Sweden!) selling arms to Middle Eastern countries involved in war or having close relations to despotic regimes. Never.
We're going to end up with two parallel worlds where sanctioned countries all trade with each other (mostly Russia and China (assuming the Chinese eventually invade Taiwan)), whilst non-sanctioned countries have to develop alternative trade routes to trade amongst themselves.
A good reminder that international football is not club football.
No shit!
Guys who built my house were all from Ukraine, except for the supervisor who was Polish. Just called them to see how they are coping and they have all either gone back home already or are on their way now, to join the army and fight. They accept they may never come back.
I was eating pizza and drinking beer with those dudes a year ago in the exact spot I'm sitting in right now. Feels surreal.
I was eating pizza and drinking beer with those dudes a year ago in the exact spot I'm sitting in right now. Feels surreal.
I feel for the Ukrainians. Having been caught in an invasion it's a losing feeling. Nothing you can do except hide.
The reality will be that the largest corporations will continue their trades with Russia, China and whoever they want, that's what they have always done.
As opposed to the 5 he already has.
No. No they wouldn’t militarily
What is the fallout if someone was to assasinate Putin?
Can you take the anti-UK posts somewhere else now. Not saying you can’t say it (we in the UK do so it’d be hypocritical) but not so much in this thread?
China won’t risk its trade with the US, it’s goal is stay neutral as long as possible whilst doing what NATO does i.e. indirectly helping others that weaken their rivals.
On tenterhooks for Romano to give the Here We Go treatment.Tanc in the Russia/Ukraine thread
The next guy may be even worse? (seems unlikely though… so roll the dice if needed)
Obviously. I thought it was obvious that it was a ludicrous suggestion.
Wrong thread.
Yes I know we are at fault there as well. But sadly enough, someone else, much stronger and with veto power at the UNSC, is doing much more to enable the saudis. And that someone has been protecting this despicable regime for decades.
This will be my last answer on this. Please let's not derail this topic.
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Utter fecking joke. Look at the proportion of Sweden's arm sales going to Pakistan and UAE alone, it's pretty much identical to the proportion of UK arms that go to the ME. The difference being the UK sells 15x more overall.
Why is Sky news showing this rubbish?
I do believe that while it might not be very difficult for Russia to invade and take hold of Ukraine, it might well be much more difficult to hold onto it in the longer term. Especially because of the size of the country.
I am hopeful that there will be a strong Ukrainian resistance movement that will continue to attack and disrupt the occupying forces.
And that this resistance movement will be progressively supported by the rest of the Western countries to the extent that, much like Afghanistan, they eventually have to retreat.
I imagine this is a calculation of Russian interests long term that wouldn't change no matter how many of their leaders were killed and replaced by guys of the same ideology
Not really though. Sweden's largest exports go to Pakistan and UAE. Germany actually exports more arms than the UK does, including to UAE and Egypt. France just signed a huge deal with the UAE for billions of dollars of jets, as well as ongoing support to the Saudis.
You're all twats who look out for yourselves is the crux of this really. Hilarious to try to paint one western country as being majorly out of step with others in terms of how bad they are.
Medvedev would replace him and avenge the assassination of his supreme leader?
Haven't done any meaningful work in two days...
Of that lot France are the largest arm sellers and have no issue selling almost anything to anyone.
Serious escalation. As much as I hate Putin, this wouldn't change the situation for the better. short term.
No one knows. Why, you up for it?
Difficult to know really but I don't think you're going to get a more reasonable Russia following an assassination, especially if its somehow coming from an external power.
You can sometimes end up with a situation far worse than what you had before too. Sisi in Egypt for instance is worse than Mubarak was before him.
He's not going to get assassinated anyway.
If you strike him down he will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine
on a serious note probably Russia launches nukes and we all die
Would depend who does it.
World leaders rarely engage in that stuff for a reason. It's a pretty dangerous precedent for them.
Looking at Putin's head these days and all I can think of is Andy Cole. I wonder if he experiencing renal failure. It's a condition that can include serious mental health issues as a side effect as well.
No way they launch nukes for that. Only zombie Putin would launch nukes because Putin has been assassinated. They might come together and get even more aggressive, though. Or they might not be able to come together internally, and who knows where that leads.
I think there would be a collective sigh of relief, followed by a short lived power struggle between residual elites and popular pro-democracy masses in Russia, and the latter would quickly crush the elites. In either case, the world will breathe a collective sigh of relief when this deranged lunatic moves on.