Playing poorly and winning, only shots on target was the two goals. Penalty the games turning point and it might have been a draw but for the needless red card but then again it's Arsenal and they'd probably find a way to lose.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
I think he got a toe to the ball as well as the player, that tiny touch stops VAR getting involved because it removes the ‘clear and obvious’
Becuase it ain’t clear and obvious if the keeper gets even the slightest touch.
Where as the penalty for City that it’s being compared with is pretty stone wall, the leg out and pulling the shirt to boot, so var was right to get involved there. It’s an unfair comparison
All your own fault. Gabriels first yellow card was idiotic. Especially for a CB.
Can't seriously think that... How on earth does Ederson foul on Odeegard is not a penalty? Bernardo's one is a clear dive, no matter if they're pulling his shirt it has no consequence on him falling at all.
How does anyone with eyes can come to the conclusion that VAR made no mistake is beyond me.
Feel strange after that. Proud the team played well when it was 11 vs 11, feel robbed but can't actually argue with the decisions, & just gutted we lost that last minute goal.
Much better team. Should have won 10v11 nevermind 11v11.
Don’t understand how the city penalty was a clear and obvious error when Arsenals wasn’t.
Don’t understand how Gabriel gets a yellow card a few minutes after his first for that challenge on the halfway line either. Yes it was a foul but not yellow card worthy especially so soon after his first.
Not surprised at all though, seems to be a different approach when it comes to Man City and refereeing, this is just one example of many throughout every season.
I don't see how Arsenal were robbed. The foul by Xhaka was a penalty and a typical braindead tackle by him, Ederson got the ball, was not a penalty for Arsenal.
Arsenal only have themselves to blame. They should've been 3 up at half time. Martinelli the next R9 also missed a sitter in the second half seconds before Gabriel was (rightly) sent off.
Arsenal only have themselves to blame. They should've been 3 up at half time. Martinelli the next R9 also missed a sitter in the second half seconds before Gabriel was (rightly) sent off.
Commentators call him Rodri despite his shirt saying Rodrigo
Definitely a penalty and 2 very stupid yellows and martinelli missing an open goal. Arsenal with noone to blame but themselves.
Think the difference in the penalty decisions is one was a clear and obvious error, one wasn't.
How Rodri was still on the pitch by the end is anyones guess, numerous yellow card offences he had already got away with, then takes his shirt off (yellow card) then also incites the crowd (another yellow card) after numerous of those famous 'tactical fouls' that he is immune from getting booked for.
Think the difference in the penalty decisions is one was a clear and obvious error, one wasn't.
How Rodri was still on the pitch by the end is anyones guess, numerous yellow card offences he had already got away with, then takes his shirt off (yellow card) then also incites the crowd (another yellow card) after numerous of those famous 'tactical fouls' that he is immune from getting booked for.
The commentary on that Arsenal and City game was abysmal. Trying so desperately hard to find controversy. A blatant penalty and the Arsenal player was rightly sent off. What am I missing? The ref did feck all wrong.
That doesn't really matter, does it? It's a foul even if he doesn't go down. Certain pen for me. Red card also correct. Would have given the Arsenal pen, though
If you fairly score more goals than the opposition then I suppose you are not playing poorly, by definition. You can do cartwheels all game but if you don't score enough then that's that.
Agreed
Yes, Arsenal should have had a penalty in the first half. However, it was a clear penalty for City. The ref made a mistake on both occasions. VAR did their job correctly for once and had his decision overturned. The 2 yellows were well deserved. You should direct your irritation towards your player.
Absolute nonsense. Bloody Arsenal fans. Exactly like their team.
Two correct decisions by the referee. Arsenal cocked it up...again.
Would he still get yellow card if the goal didn't stand?Very risky celebrating like that before VAR has confirmed anything
The Arsenal penalty is the only one that could be disputed. We need to do away with clear and obvious as a get out card. Obviously the ref didn’t see that Ederson kicked the player to play the ball. Even then though you don’t always get them as pens even when it’s a defender making the challenge.
I think it could’ve been given especially after a review but still think it would be interpretation on that.
The others were all 100% correct.
Bernardo's one was given because Xhaka's knee collided with Bernardo's knee not because of the shirt pull, was a blatant penalty. Ederson got a touch on the ball which automatically doesn't make it a clear and obvious error. Take away your biases and look again clearly. If those things happened against United I'd say the same thing.
Arsenal had a clear penalty in the first half. Everything else was spot on from the officials.
That City penalty was a penalty. He’s holding his shirt. He does dive though, but apparently that’s just acceptable nowadays.
I like BT Sports self-fulfilling prophecy about VAR controversy.
It's obviously going to be 'controversial' when the broadcaster makes every decision out to be controversial.
It's obviously going to be 'controversial' when the broadcaster makes every decision out to be controversial.
Lee Dixon thinks it wasnt a penalty
He is having a meltdown on TV
He is having a meltdown on TV
Knowing he was on a card, what he did for his 2nd was a disgrace
"End of the day, you pull anyone's shirt anywhere else on the pitch and it's a penalty" - Rio Ferdinand
Why? We were second last season. I don't get why the first finger is pointed to Liverpool and Chelsea when we were the ones who finished 2nd last year, bought Sancho Varane and Ronaldo and managed to just pull our own pants down 1/3rd of the way into the season.
The first embarrassment of a title challenge is us. At least Liverpool and Chlesea are/were somewhat in the conversation until now.
Soft red card but can make a case about it.
If the penalties were called backwards do you think VAR would have reversed them?
Silva's penalty would have never been called by VAR if not by the referee. Referees are so egocentric that they look for anything to backup their decision and not correct it even when it's clear they feck it, in this case it was the shirt pulling.
City got 2 yellows at the 94' (Rodri showing his abs to London) and B.Silva for whatever at the 95'. I think that's what is annoying many, that City can avoid so many cards consistently.
You will see many Odegaard fouls given as a penalty in the coming months without a doubt. Gabriel's first yellow is stupid from him, and the second one is even dumber, just let him go or someone else take the card.
BT is reminding me of when they were focusing on the penalty which put us 7-0 up against Southampton in that 9-0 win last season
Yeah, probably best not to point fingers at other teams when we've been pathetic this season ourselves.
The City pen wasn't called by the ref, that was VAR, no?
Gabriel 2nd's card wasn't deserved
?They'll be needing that soon if we go into another lockdown.
The red was for 2 stonewall yellows.
The ref didn't call the Silva foul, he thought it was a dive, it was VAR that called him on it.
The way it is with this 'clear and obvious' bollox I think it'd be fairer if they did away with the on-field decision for penalty incidents, then they wouldn't have anyone to protect and could be more objective in their decisions on penalty incidents.
"End of the day, you pull anyone's shirt anywhere else on the pitch and it's a penalty" - Rio Ferdinand
too much to ask for any kind of result by Watford today?
Hahaha I noticed that too. So much drama over everything. Take it like a man and crack on.
Looks like City is immune to yellow cards as well as COVID.