Sam
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can't disagree
Unfortunately, they just happen to be the other two that should be leaving the club immediately, and who will hide behind LVG to excuse their own failings.
can't disagree
When things weren't working, he didn't change things up. Ivanovic was one of their worst players, and when he was fit, he started despite them having alternatives for the position.He wanted Griezmann, Stones and Pogba. He knew that Chelsea team wasn't right hence why his frustration.
He knew from the day they lost 5-2 to Spurs that the Chelsea team wasn't right. And he started parking the bus. That Chelsea team needed new players. If you don't refresh your team then you will stay back.
He had falling outs with players. I don't think he can do anything to Costa, when all Costa does is pretend to be tough and not score goals anymore. Hazard clearly showed he's a bottler just like Fabregas.
I think he'd give the players confidence and I think the players will love him. Maybe not Mata.
- Rooney as starterWhat would you all expect Mourinho to do with the squad? A few things I can think of:
- Mata sidelined pretty rapidly.
- We can probably forget Januzaj, Pereira, Wilson, Tuanzebe etc ever establishing themselves.
- Could see Valencia used on the right wing against stronger opponents quite often.
- I'd imagine Herrera would become first choice and we wouldn't see two DMFs at home to teams we should we beating anymore. He does favour a 4-2-3-1 but I think he'd realise that formation does not suit our squad.
- 3-5-2 never to be seen again.
- Don't think we'd see Blind at CB again.
They don't have a clue.Rooney and Giggs.
Bet your house on it.
FFS Damo, it is just a few months away that he won the title. Technically it is the past, but it is a very recent past.
And while he did worse than LVG in the league this season, he did better in UCL. In this season, both have been equally shit, but LVG has been mostly shit and irrelevant for the last 15 years while Mourinho has been brilliant for most of that time.
Yep, the stick Mourinho got for Eva while Pep did even worse and was mentioned for like 2 hours is interesting.
Btw, I prefer Pep to Mourinho, but I would be happy with either of them. Those two have been 2/3 best managers in the world in the last 10/15 years, and the other top 3 manager is retired. So unless Fergie is coming back, or Pep had said yes, Mourinho is the best next choice. Especially that the comparable choices are unavailable too (Ancelotti apparently in Bayern, and if we want to be generous, Klopp is at Pool while Simeone isn't thinking to change his job).
Regardless, is like not signing Ronaldo because Messi might be available. But if Messi goes to City, then we get stucked with Rooney. Or have to promote Wilson.
I would love to know what people are smoking.
exactly what i thought.Rooney and Giggs.
Bet your house on it.
I think he brings in a CB and a winger in january. and he starts to play round pegs in roung holes. I dont actually think mata will get thrown to the wolves either, he needs to galvanise the dressing room not split it.What would you all expect Mourinho to do with the squad? A few things I can think of:
- Mata sidelined pretty rapidly.
- We can probably forget Januzaj, Pereira, Wilson, Tuanzebe etc ever establishing themselves.
- Could see Valencia used on the right wing against stronger opponents quite often.
- I'd imagine Herrera would become first choice and we wouldn't see two DMFs at home to teams we should we beating anymore. He does favour a 4-2-3-1 but I think he'd realise that formation does not suit our squad.
- 3-5-2 never to be seen again.
- Don't think we'd see Blind at CB again.
- Rooney as starter
Is Mourinho stupid? Mourinho isn't stupid.
I don't buy this just because he wanted Rooney some years ago, he would play him now. Sure, there is a good chance that Rooney would play this season, but if he doesn't improve, he would get the Eto'o treatment in the summer.
However, if we appoint a new manager in the summer (not Pep who is absolutely ruthless), then we might see Rooney next season too.
Oh, yeah, I definitely think he'd make a 'stop gap' kind of signing at CB in January, which isn't a bad thing in truth.I think he brings in a CB and a winger in january. and he starts to play round pegs in roung holes. I dont actually think mata will get thrown to the wolves either, he needs to galvanise the dressing room not split it.
Well he constantly played Ivanovic despite him being past it and Chelsea having sufficient replacements. Mourinho has his favourites and it wasn't that long ago he wanted Rooney - two years ago? I'd be surprised if he dropped him to the bench personally.
Certainly (like every manager). But Rooney isn't his favourite. He was back then a great player who was playing in some rival club. Now him being an awful player changes the equation. He certainly isn't Drogba, with whom Mourinho had a great relationship.Well he constantly played Ivanovic despite him being past it and Chelsea having sufficient replacements. Mourinho has his favourites and it wasn't that long ago he wanted Rooney - two years ago? I'd be surprised if he dropped him to the bench personally.
Ivanovic did not seem past it today by any standards. Also, Baba Rahman was awful whenever he played to the point that Mourinho had to play Kennedy (an even younger and less experienced player) out of position.Well he constantly played Ivanovic despite him being past it and Chelsea having sufficient replacements. Mourinho has his favourites and it wasn't that long ago he wanted Rooney - two years ago? I'd be surprised if he dropped him to the bench personally.
Mata would be very joyful at the idea of Mourinho coming in...
LvG is a significant part of the problem, but the problem runs much deeper.
Bollocks. Yes we would.Still win the league? We could bring in any of Mourinho, Guardiola or Ancelotti right now, and sign Neymar on 1st Jan, and we still wouldn't win the league.
Mata would be very joyful at the idea of Mourinho coming in...
Mata would be very joyful at the idea of Mourinho coming in...
Still win the league? We could bring in any of Mourinho, Guardiola or Ancelotti right now, and sign Neymar on 1st Jan, and we still wouldn't win the league.
LvG is a significant part of the problem, but the problem runs much deeper.
Bollocks. Yes we would.
I think it would yeah. Long way to go and the teams above aren't great. It won't happen anyway. We need to just get a manager in who will give it a real go, have us finish up there and maybe win a cup.A good manager plus Neymar would be enough to paper over not having any fullbacks fit for the foreseeable future, no right winger and only one dependable centre back in the squad? Not just paper over, but propel us to the summit and win the whole thing, despite being 9 points behind currently? I don't see it.
I think he brings in a CB and a winger in january. and he starts to play round pegs in roung holes. I dont actually think mata will get thrown to the wolves either, he needs to galvanise the dressing room not split it.
We could at least challenge. Leicester are top!Bollocks. Yes we would.
m. If things go bad I won't call him a fraud, a con artist, a cancer to the club who plays 'millionaires with disabilities' as some wanker said.
For me though, our problems run deeper than van Gaal and bringing in Mourinho won't magically make things go well again.
Pep is off to City. At least that is what it seems to the outsider, given how they seem to have made the club tailormade for his needs - the people he knows, the English "La Masia", funds, a squad full of superstars and so on.
Carlo off to Bayern, Klopp is at Liverpool. The only top manager with a history of winning anything is out Mourinho, and he allegedly wants the United job. Let's not overthink this from a "tradition" or "values" or "philosophy" angle again, and mess it up. As a brand, we can't just afford to not win.
No brainer, really. Mourinho will be the next manager of Manchester United, and I would love to see his intensity show here, long term or not.
#MourINho
Maybe Perez has gottne in touch with Mendez.Why haven't we appointed Jose yet?
Why does it take so long?
Woody, move it!
Pep is off to City. At least that is what it seems to the outsider, given how they seem to have made the club tailormade for his needs - the people he knows, the English "La Masia", funds, a squad full of superstars and so on.
Carlo off to Bayern, Klopp is at Liverpool. The only top manager with a history of winning anything is out Mourinho, and he allegedly wants the United job. Let's not overthink this from a "tradition" or "values" or "philosophy" angle again, and mess it up. As a brand, we can't just afford to not win.
No brainer, really. Mourinho will be the next manager of Manchester United, and I would love to see his intensity show here, long term or not.
#MourINho