It is but it seems like Barca are desperate to please the fans with a big signing because Real's little spending spree has caused some unrest.
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It is but it seems like Barca are desperate to please the fans with a big signing because Real's little spending spree has caused some unrest.
Crazy bid really, I think Eto'o compliments there style of play a lot more than Ibra as well.
Least this will put a couple of the ongoing transfer rumours to rest
Least this will put a couple of the ongoing transfer rumours to rest
Without question, I think between these 2 juggernauts of Spanish football it is all about making statements. It is almost like politics how they have presidents who must promise the fans big money signings to appease them helps them win votes to keep them in the office. I remember a time where Laporta promised David Beckham but ended up getting Ronaldinho instead which turned out to be a great success.
It is kind of sad in a way because it means that they manager may have to get players he does not truly even want just to send a message back to Madrid conveying no control over his own team.
Did the manager of Real Madrid even want all of these big money signings? Is he even allowed a say? In my opinion the Barca squad are perfect the way they are and are still growing in potential but that is just the way things work.
It is slightly like this over here for us as well. If Fergie did not buy anybody can you imagine all the hysteria and anger from the transfer muppets and the criticism from the media?
insane fee.
first of all, as a talent....eto'o is worth much more than 20 million. its only because he is in his last season of his contract that he is going for so cheap.
and on top of that, another 40...madness. a 27-28 year old zlatan, the 2nd most expensive footballer ever? wow.
and he's not even as good as eto'o. PR move by barca i imagine.
first of all, as a talent....eto'o is worth much more than 20 million. its only because he is in his last season of his contract that he is going for so cheap.
and on top of that, another 40...madness. a 27-28 year old zlatan, the 2nd most expensive footballer ever? wow.
and he's not even as good as eto'o. PR move by barca i imagine.
Barca insanity
Ay, for me Eto'o is the better player, there isn't too much difference in age, their contract situations are what causes the issue with Eto'o only having a year to run
I'm still not convinced this will go through, the club don't have all that much say in what Eto'o does now, he can stay for the final year and leave on a free, or he can pretty much decide the club he wants to go too and Barca will almost certainly accept to get any kind of fee for him, maybe with a minimum amount they'll accept of 10million plus on point of principle
Inter getting the better of this deal if it does go through though no question
I'm still not convinced this will go through, the club don't have all that much say in what Eto'o does now, he can stay for the final year and leave on a free, or he can pretty much decide the club he wants to go too and Barca will almost certainly accept to get any kind of fee for him, maybe with a minimum amount they'll accept of 10million plus on point of principle
Inter getting the better of this deal if it does go through though no question
You're the one that said that player swap deals are paper bollocks, right?
They usually are
Be interesting if Eto'o turns it down, whether Inter still go through with it if Barca whack another £15mill on their offer
For me, Zlatan is the better player.
I think Zlatan is more suited to Seria A and Eto is far more suited to Laliga and both Seria A with his pace which should be illustrated in the value of the players.
However they are world class so they can adapt to the leagues but they are not exactly getting younger. How much time would the fans or players afford for them, especially Zlatan who is costing an insane amount of money. Who knows though, he can turn out to be an instant success like Ronaldinho was when they bought him is very probable.
I agree with you, Eto'o is better than Zlatan and has been during their entire careers
Have no idea what you can be basing that on, can't be anything reflected in their respective careers to this point
Hang on, no one else is reporting the fee at 40 mill. Barca are shrewed they will never in a million years agree to this deal. Maybe the whole deal is worth 40 mill (eto'o valued at around 20 mill + an additional 20 mill) but no way will it be eto'o AND 40 mill. NOT A CHANCE!
Even if you're right, it would still be a joke.
EXACTLY! Eto'o has done it at the highest level (ACN + champions league), Zlatan just hasn't. I hate this perception that Zlatan is this classy player who's talented at world class level(but doesn't show it at the toughest level?) but Eto'o is a mere speed merchant?
Come back to me when Zlatan's scored in the knockout stages of the CL, let alone the final.
Eto'o isn't wanted at Barcelona. Not because he isnt a great player but he was one of the disturbing influences on the changing room in the past. He has made comments regarding the club in the past and would have been out the door last summer if he didnt basically refuse.
Of course he had a great season but Barcelona really fear that he will sit out his contract and leave for nothing. A player of his value to do that wouldn't be pleasing so to get 20mil for him is wise. But what you dont bank on is the mentality of Eto'o, he turned down City despite the massive wages on offer. But wages shouldnt really be too much of an issue, he'll walk into Zlatans pay package if the swap goes through which looks likely imo.
ANyway, Ibrahimovic will fit into the barcelona style whilst giving them a dimension they dont have currently. People talking about his individualist ways are quite wrong. Yes like any top player he has a selfishness about him and may over indulge in his own game from time to time but for the majority and certainly under Mourinho he was a real team player. He offers goals but Ibrahimovic as a creative center forward doesnt have an equal in the world, that is what makes him unique and that is why i think he will fit in very well at Barcelona.
No disrespect to Inter Milan but they didnt have many players even close to the same wavelengh as Ibrahimovic, at Barcelona once he settles in it'll be party football at the camp nou. Henry, Messi, Xavi, Iniesta and Ibrahimovic should be entertaining if nothing else.
Of course he had a great season but Barcelona really fear that he will sit out his contract and leave for nothing. A player of his value to do that wouldn't be pleasing so to get 20mil for him is wise. But what you dont bank on is the mentality of Eto'o, he turned down City despite the massive wages on offer. But wages shouldnt really be too much of an issue, he'll walk into Zlatans pay package if the swap goes through which looks likely imo.
ANyway, Ibrahimovic will fit into the barcelona style whilst giving them a dimension they dont have currently. People talking about his individualist ways are quite wrong. Yes like any top player he has a selfishness about him and may over indulge in his own game from time to time but for the majority and certainly under Mourinho he was a real team player. He offers goals but Ibrahimovic as a creative center forward doesnt have an equal in the world, that is what makes him unique and that is why i think he will fit in very well at Barcelona.
No disrespect to Inter Milan but they didnt have many players even close to the same wavelengh as Ibrahimovic, at Barcelona once he settles in it'll be party football at the camp nou. Henry, Messi, Xavi, Iniesta and Ibrahimovic should be entertaining if nothing else.
I would doubt them to reach the level they have last season.Eto'o provides hard work and pressing from up front aswell good finishing (despite all the chances he misses at times).
If they continue with the mentality that Guardiola has instilled then i cant see how that will change. He was the man who got the whole team pressing from the front. Losing Eto'o will not change the mentality of the coach.
EXACTLY! Eto'o has done it at the highest level (ACN + champions league), Zlatan just hasn't. I hate this perception that Zlatan is this classy player who's talented at world class level(but doesn't show it at the toughest level?) but Eto'o is a mere speed merchant?
Come back to me when Zlatan's scored in the knockout stages of the CL, let alone the final.
Anybody who calls Eto'o a mere speed merchant is just not worth a response in my opinion. He is world class and anyone who denys that is crazy. However I have always had one theory. When people have said Zlatan has not done it on the biggest stage it always seems that his team has not played particularly well either and has generally let him down. Nobody can seriously do it on their own. At Barcelona he would have enough creativity and people around him to help him excel on the grandest stages.
The 'big stage' thing is just one of those classic myths in football in my opinion just like the whole 'one man team' .
Boss is correct.
Of course when Zlatan does do it on the biggest stage it will be because he played in a great team...
It's a rediculous way to judge a player because a player like a team should be judged over the whole season.
If you compare him to Eto'o over the last season they have very simelar scoring records whilst zlatan will clearly have a greater number of assists. All whilst playing for a much weaker and less creative/attacking side.
Of course when Zlatan does do it on the biggest stage it will be because he played in a great team...
It's a rediculous way to judge a player because a player like a team should be judged over the whole season.
If you compare him to Eto'o over the last season they have very simelar scoring records whilst zlatan will clearly have a greater number of assists. All whilst playing for a much weaker and less creative/attacking side.
Can't see Barca reaching the heights of last season myself. Zlatan is a good player, but I can't see him suiting the Barca style of play as well as Eto'o did. He's not going to be the focal point of the team, no one will outshine Messi and Iniesta and he's not a prolific a goalscorer as Eto'o was.
£35m + Eto'o is a great deal for Inter.
£35m + Eto'o is a great deal for Inter.
If it's true, Zlatan will surpass E'too in a Barca shirt. I assure thee. Meanwhile E'too himself will set some records in the Serie A too.
Stop talking rubbish.
http://www.goal.com/en/news/12/spai...er-officials-have-spoken-to-samuel-etoo-agent
Eto agent react angrily to the swap deal, can't see this deal happening
Eto agent react angrily to the swap deal, can't see this deal happening
I wouldnt assure anyone that Ibrahimovic will surpass Eto'o however i think he is a better all round player and so will be more benificial to the team.
Eto'o is a fantastic striker, for a couple of years he was the best in the world. Personally i dont think he's ever reached the standards of 05/06 even last season, he started on fire but the whole team did, despite his goals he wasnt the standout in the team.
Eto'o is a fantastic striker, for a couple of years he was the best in the world. Personally i dont think he's ever reached the standards of 05/06 even last season, he started on fire but the whole team did, despite his goals he wasnt the standout in the team.
Sometimes clubs show no loyalty to players. Imagine negotiating a proposed swap deal without mentioning a word to the actual player himself. For somebody who as helped Barcelona achieve so much and put them back up their with the best clubs in Europe, has scored over 100 goals,scored in two seperate champions league finals, there is just not enough respect being shown.
Without Eto'o the Barcelona revitalization would not have been possible and I think Laporta needs to remember this.
Without Eto'o the Barcelona revitalization would not have been possible and I think Laporta needs to remember this.
Spare me your usual know it all bullshit pal. It's not my fault you are stupid enough to doubt that Zlatan is a far more talented and better all round player than E'too.Zlatan will score almost as much and create far more than Etoo has ever done for the Catalans, if he signs for Barcelona. Of this I have little doubt.
Zlatan will score almost as much and create far more than Etoo has ever done for the Catalans, if he signs for Barcelona. Of this I have little doubt.
Holy shit.
How can you not see the irony there?
I never said that Eto'o's better than Ibrahimovic. Didn't imply it either.
Zlatan will score almost as much and create far more than Etoo has ever done for the Catalans, if he signs for Barcelona. Of this I have little doubt.
You're a bit of an idiot. However good a player he may or may not be, nothings ever guaranteed when you go to a new team in a new league. Especially one where the stakes are so much higher at a club of Barca's stature
Besides which, Eto'o scored 36 goals for Barca last season according to the stats I'm looking at. Ibrahimovic has never trouble the 30 mark, in fact this is the first season in his career the 27 year old has passed 22 goals. And he's going to outscore Eto'o for certain is he?!
Typical Brad. Right on cue When the player has the experience of another big club anda top league and is at the peak of his footballing powers, that argument doens't hold water and you know it. Only off the field issues and injury could ever cause such a player a problem. If they don't come into play negatively that player will definitely succeed on the pitch.
Suggesting otherwise is up there with labeling Eto'o a mere speed merchant or those who claim Roanldo will flop at REAL because Rooney is not there. It's ludicrous.
I pray, you "wise sage", please show me where I claimed Zlatan would outscore Et'oo"?
If you can't then you are truly the on who is an idiot.
You've hit the nail on the head there pretty much, but I'd go slightly further and say that it definitely is politics, there's no maybe about it. It's all about image, and they're both trying to better one another.
Typical
Sure.
You're clearly missing the point here.
Tell me, why do you think I told you to stop talking rubbish? What part of your quote was I calling rubbish?
Think about it, it's really quite simple, and then you'll see what I'm talking about.
You must have a pretty interesting definition of 'surpassing' if that's not what you meant then
Sure. Because I'm not giving the response you wish I could right?
I already told you. I have no need of repeating it. Read my previous post again if you missed it the first time.
Like I need to spell it out for you.
Rather it's pretty simple really. You were being your usual annoying self. Only someone trying to be pedantic can deny that a Zlatan scoring almost as much and creating more than Eto'o, which would be surpassing Eto'o, is rubbish
Especially when every one on here except the extremly blinkered know for sure Zlatan creates more than Eto'o and can score almost as many goals.
Last season they had very simelar strike rates whilst Zlatan was intigral to everything good about Inter. Barca had Messi and Iniesta having their best ever seasons and they were the outstanding players in the team.
Another point people seem to be missing is that they want Zlatan for a reason, not to be another Eto'o but to give another dimension to their play. They know that at times they might need to have a target and Ibrahimovic is one of the best. He showed how good his hold up play was against United when he was as isolated a player as i've ever seen.
They are losing a more natural goal getter but they will be getting a player who can adapt to situations, equally adept with flair as he is with route one football.
THis is the reason Guardiola and co want Ibrahimovic. It just so happens that Eto'o wont sign a new contract and it is now or never for Barcelona to get something for him or risk losing him for nothing.
Of course we dont know if he'll be great or not. I think he will be but then i'm his mother
Another point people seem to be missing is that they want Zlatan for a reason, not to be another Eto'o but to give another dimension to their play. They know that at times they might need to have a target and Ibrahimovic is one of the best. He showed how good his hold up play was against United when he was as isolated a player as i've ever seen.
They are losing a more natural goal getter but they will be getting a player who can adapt to situations, equally adept with flair as he is with route one football.
THis is the reason Guardiola and co want Ibrahimovic. It just so happens that Eto'o wont sign a new contract and it is now or never for Barcelona to get something for him or risk losing him for nothing.
Of course we dont know if he'll be great or not. I think he will be but then i'm his mother
There we go, there's that key word that was missing last time - can.
Zlatan can surpass Eto'o, he has the ability to.
That's entirely different from saying he will surpass him, of which you've assured us he will.
You can't know that, football's unpredictable. You can't assure us of anything that could happen in the future.
I was never saying that Zlatan won't surpass Eto'o, or that he's not the better player. So clearly you did need it spelled out for me, and you wouldn't have been able to spell it out for me at all.
Yep. You and I are just his relatives promoting his agenda. None of what we say can be true as a result.Last season they had very simelar strike rates whilst Zlatan was intigral to everything good about Inter. Barca had Messi and Iniesta having their best ever seasons and they were the outstanding players in the team.
Another point people seem to be missing is that they want Zlatan for a reason, not to be another Eto'o but to give another dimension to their play. They know that at times they might need to have a target and Ibrahimovic is one of the best. He showed how good his hold up play was against United when he was as isolated a player as i've ever seen.
They are losing a more natural goal getter but they will be getting a player who can adapt to situations, equally adept with flair as he is with route one football.
THis is the reason Guardiola and co want Ibrahimovic. It just so happens that Eto'o wont sign a new contract and it is now or never for Barcelona to get something for him or risk losing him for nothing.
Of course we dont know if he'll be great or not. I think he will be but then i'm his mother
Christ, that's possibly the most insane transfer I've ever seen.
Zlatan is a year younger than Eto'o and has never proven it at the level that Eto'o has, so Barca are swapping them, giving Inter 30m, and Hleb on loan.
feck. Me. Sideways
Zlatan is a year younger than Eto'o and has never proven it at the level that Eto'o has, so Barca are swapping them, giving Inter 30m, and Hleb on loan.
feck. Me. Sideways
I wonder what wonderful excuses his worshippers will come out with if he moves to Barca and bombs, and yet he's still brilliant / the best in the world. They won't be able to use that already frankly bollocks one about all his team mates being shit and not up to his level like at Inter! Must be running out of them at some point...
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