PSG aren't as dominant as you think, the last 19 games:
PSG 14W 3D 2L
Lyon 12W 3D 4L
Lille 10W 6D 3L
Nice 10W 4D 5L
The first part of the season was a freak.
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PSG aren't as dominant as you think, the last 19 games:
PSG 14W 3D 2L
Lyon 12W 3D 4L
Lille 10W 6D 3L
Nice 10W 4D 5L
The first part of the season was a freak.
Do you not think they eased off once they knew they had no competition whatsoever.
PSG are and will continue to be utterly dominant.
They're 31 points ahead of second. How can they not be classed as completely dominant.
Is it not obvious why towards the end of a season won months ago their results dipped a bit? They've clearly eased up, the league's won and also they've taken ECL into consideration
Imagine the points gap if they'd have carried on at full intensity all season.
The way I see it, if we get another striker, it should be someone around the mid range of their career, still young enough to play for a fair few years at their highest level, but old enough to have the experience. Rooney should either be sold or moved into midfield. Also, bringing in a better striker than Rashford isn't a bad thing, it's a competition for places. People are just getting over excited over the name here.
It doesn't matter if we get him or not imo, it's pointless anyway, Van Gaal would play him as a feckin left back anyway.
Well, i guess i found one of the gloomy ones.
If you think Zlatan is a symbol of what's wrong with our team recently, i respectfully (or not, given your quite offensive nature) disagree with you. Youth have had plenty of chances, with some bright prospects, and others who'll probably be better off somewhere else . I think every youngster in our side understand Zlatan is not long term, and the likes of Rashford and Martial should be extatic about the posibility to learn from one of the best strikers in the modern era.
...but then again, we could also just lay all our eggs with rashford for 45 games next season.
Also, silly me. I thought "for free" actually meant Zlatan would treat us as a charity .
Well, of course he'll demand crazy wages. But it's not like any other world class signing would play on the cheap either. The point is you can afford the wages by not spending 50+ mill on someone less proven.
Since Ibra moved to PSG, Real Madrid have picked up more points and scored more goals in La Liga than PSG have done in France, how do you explain that?
Not really, they have two very close record, they lost against Lyon and Monaco in the second part of the season when Lyon and Monaco pulled their fingers from their backsides. The league table really is misleading because Lyon had off field and on field issues.
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Because they've been a better team over the last four years? Not sure you're getting my point. To be honest I've lost what yours is.
Your logic is far out, man. You don't want Zlatan because he'll stop youth getting av chance. Yet you'll want us to sign a mid-career player instead?
Please explain how to works out to be a better deal for our youngsters .
Because a mid career striker who isn't a superstar and wont demand to be played weekly will be happy with rotation and wont throw his toys out his pram. Imagine having an out of form Rooney and an out of form Zlatan and LVG still playing them every game because of their superstar status.
We should have just kept Hernandez.
A mid-career striker who's not a superstar. A striker, who wouldn't demand to play every game, despite being mid-career (which should translate to prime, no?). We might as well sign Giroud. Or Pellè. That'll win us the league. Surely.
Exactly!
4 bomb scares ffs
Tedious!
You said it's easy for Ibra to score because PSG are so dominant, and we should be wary of signing him because of it. The point I was trying to make is that Real have enjoyed a similar level of dominance, more in fact if you look at wins and goals scored and I don't think anybody would use the same argument against Ronaldo.
Neither would Ibra be playing every game too if he's here. Some people are reacting to such extremes that Rashford would get zero games. What Ibra can offer really complements well with our young forwards in Martial and Rashford, something Rooney could be doing if he hasn't gone so shite.
Then we'd be back to the strikers I mentioned which would be a £35-40M outlay at least, those players will then expect to be starters for the foreseeable future. I am not bothered about Ibra's name and I'm not enamored by his showman stuff either, it's fun but irrelevant. To me bringing him in suggests we have faith in our homegrown striker for the long term, which is great.
Yep we also have Europa league group games which Ibra probably wont play
Exactly, I am sure that despite the fact he has clearly looked after himself he'll find the PL a different beast physically and will need to rest more often than at PSG, and that's before we hit the crazy Christmas period. Rashford will get plenty of game time without the expectation of carrying the load.
I quote, "'If the coach had told me I would be his No 1 striker, I would never have left. But I wanted to play."
Anyway, you are basically saying we should sign a squad player. If there's one problem with our team right now, it is that there's already too many squad players.
I think we've just learnt to keep our targets mouths shut again. Since when has Raiola been so quick to brush off interest from United?
It'll be interesting to see how many people that voted for Ibra's signing simultaneously rejected James's for being too slow (not the only criticism of James, but one of the most commonly cited ones).
How is a lanky target man having limited pace (he's actually pretty quick fwiw) comparable to an advanced midfielder having limited pace? Apples and oranges.
We're showing Van Gaal respect before he leaves for good and moves into his villa in Portugal.
It wasn't meant to be a comparison of Zlatan and James as much as a question of play style.
From what I've read over the past few months, most people seem to think we need additional pace and goal threat in forward positions. Hence the clamouring for Griezmann, who would meet the criteria while representing a substantial upgrade over Rooney, Mata and Lingard. If Zlatan were to be signed, it wouldn't be for his pace. That's fine by me, because I don't think pace is the be all and end all, and I do think Zlatan could bring a real positive contribution to this team in many ways.
My point is that pace is no longer a reason to reject James if we're prepared to break that policy to sign Zlatan.
That clash won't end well for the scouser
I don't think Ibra is that slow and I don't think James is as slow as people here are claiming to be either. However, James' attitude/off field concerns along with him admitting that he didn't like the physicality of EPL, and the fact that Real will want a very high transfer fee for him, are all big factors which make me lean towards not signing him. But I'm not necessarily against the idea of signing a relatively young, potentially world class No. 10. Just like people who have their reservations about Zlatan (age, pace, whatever) shouldn't be completely against the idea of signing a top 5 player in the world, especially on a free transfer.
In that case, Vangle would be the first one in the queue.
Ibra maybe arrogant but he has the goods to back it up. Too many soft cnuts in our team now.
Yup! With him on the pitch, opposition dare not try to bully our players. He will be on to anyone or everyone who tries to act smart.
He can have his own Ibra-gif thread. Would be epic if we can get all his previous ones in one thread
People who are against the signing, which striker would you prefer to be brought in? Realistically of course.
I can't recall. Usually he lets guys like di Marzio do the job to disseminate what he wants the media to write. The main question is what United offered Ibra as deal - I read it as if the duration of the contract isn't 'factual' but not that he dismissed an offer as such.
From what I remember, it wasn't exactly the case that he wanted to be the number one striker - it was the case that Rooney would always be the number one striker (despite it not being the case later) - meaning that Hernandez will be behind Rooney even if he was in better form.
If it was true, it's horrible management and it's not the first time I've heard something similar from him.
Anyhow, I'd love Zlatan here - it'll bring the fear factor back to United and he's a perfect signing for the likes of Rashford and Wilson. Zlatan as the first choice striker with Rashford and Wilson as the backups - I'd love that.
He missed something like 14 league games last season to injuries and suspension so there's good reason why his stats have sky-rocketed when you compare it to this year. He got 26 goals and 15 assists in 33 games the season before that.
Dear god no.
People saying Ibra only scores a lot in France cos PSG are dominating ignore the fact that PSG doninates because they have Ibra up front! You think Madrid would score over 100 goals a season in the league if they didnt have Ronaldo score 40+ a season? It all works together.
The season before Ibra went to PSG, they spent 180m and actually lost the league to Montpellier....
The season before Ibra went to PSG, they spent 180m and actually lost the league to Montpellier....
Yea exactly Rashford can play the league cup, Fa cup and EL games and be used as a sub for Zlatan in the PL. He'll get plenty of game time in the first team for an 18 year old and if he needs game time that cant be offered in the first team he can still play in the under 21s, I mean he is 18 year old for crying out loud.
So true
Fact is he scores a shitload at whatever club he is at. He did so at Ajax, Inter, Barca, Milan, He does for sweden, obviously he also does for PSG.
He is just a gifted player that can score in any team and his goals have made all his teams better and win stuff.
But I guess the PL is magical and Vardy can score goals in it but a star player with an average of more than 30 goals a season in his career cant because of reasons...
Higuain would be my first choice. Then Lacazette.
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I had to say yes cause he's free and at the end of the day it's close to zero risk. But it's not a prospect that fills me with a great deal of excitement. If there's a younger, faster and more dynamic option I'd rather we went that way.
We've had our fair share of old greats looking for their final paycheck in recent years. One day one of them will work out I suppose.
We've had our fair share of old greats looking for their final paycheck in recent years. One day one of them will work out I suppose.
Oh dear god, we are going to have Rooney bfs and carrick in midfield next season aren't we............like last of the summer wine but even less funny. All we need now is Rooney holding his shorts up with a piece of string while carrick slides down the stretty in a bathtub! Plus Nora batty is just Wayne's type.
What's the risk in football apart from cost? When that is removed this deal is the definition of no brainer.
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