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Should we sign Ibra on a free this summer ?

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Von Mistelroum said:
I don't bet, but if I did, I wouldn't know which of those to actually bet on anyway. Just seems to me that he's playing us to get a better deal elsewhere.
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The bookies can be wrong of course. But they're generally fairly on the ball.

He's about best priced 1/8 to move to us. Meaning if you put on £10 and he did come here you'd get a profit of about £1.25. Milan LA Galaxy are second favourites at 5/1 meaning you'd get a profit of £50 if he moved there and you had a tenner on it. The favourite Chinese club is Guangzhou at 50/1 meaning you'd get a profite of £500 on your tenner.

Now bookies can be wrong. But looking at that, it's very likely he'll be a United player next season.
 
Rory 7 said:
Am I the only who is not getting excited by this? I mean great player and all that but he's 34.
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I dont think we are 1 short term striker away from the title to be honest. Id rather sign a top young striker to play with Martial and Rashford for years to come than a 34 year old who will have a good year in him. But thats just me.

Zlatan probably has more impact year one. Year 2? Hard to say, he might not wven be here. Year 3? Zlatan will be modeling sunglasses in LA.

Im fine with signing Zlatan, he will come in and bring goals and media hype for a while. Its just a very short term move for a team that is crying out for long term vision
 
Rory 7 said:
Am I the only who is not getting excited by this? I mean great player and all that but he's 34.
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I'm not excited by it, but still hope it happens.

I reckon he will provide about 10-15 league goals. Don't think he will set the league alight.

Actually think his personality will be more of an influence on the team than his on the pitch performances.
 
Tiber said:
I dont think we are 1 short term striker away from the title to be honest. Id rather sign a top young striker to play with Martial and Rashford for years to come than a 34 year old who will have a good year in him. But thats just me.

Zlatan probably has more impact year one. Year 2? Hard to say, he might not wven be here. Year 3? Zlatan will be modeling sunglasses in LA.

Im fine with signing Zlatan, he will come in and bring goals and media hype for a while. Its just a very short term move for a team that is crying out for long term vision
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We have 2 very promising strikers under 21 years old, bringing in a 3rd young striker will definitely impact their development. Striker is a position we definitely need a short term fix in until Martial or Rashford become 20+ EPL goals per seasons strikers.
 
KiD MoYeS said:
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Rory 7 said:
Am I the only who is not getting excited by this? I mean great player and all that but he's 34.
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Seeking fellow posters sharing age-related concerns in this thread, is like an Arsenal fan going through the last 12 seasons of football and wondering if they were in a 4th place battle at any point.
 
Rory 7 said:
Am I the only who is not getting excited by this? I mean great player and all that but he's 34.
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He is still one of the best strikers in the world, a huge personality and a leader on the pitch and in the dressing room.
He has loyalty to Jose and is exactly what we need right now...a world class striker who will give us a year or two while Rashford and co develop. Plus he is coming on a free!

It is a win/win for all parties.
 
unitedbhoy said:
I'm not excited by it, but still hope it happens.

I reckon he will provide about 10-15 league goals. Don't think he will set the league alight.

Actually think his personality will be more of an influence on the team than his on the pitch performances.
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If he comes in it will be because his attitude as much as anything, to impart a winning mentality on the young players. He wont accept misplaced passes etc like Keane and Cantona.

Some of you say that the club is thinking short-term but are they really? Maybe the fans against it are thinking short term?

The impact ibra could have is potentially immense. We need a few more winners like him
 
I completely understand why so many are excited over this deal potentially happening, but I think others can be forgiven for not being all for it due to his age so I don't get the venomous critique of those not jumping for joy at the prospect.

Fact is no one, not even Zlatan himself, could guarantee that he'd be a success here. Despite the season he's just had, he's a gamble, all transfers are but him more than most given the circumstances.
 
spenzo said:
I completely understand why so many are excited over this deal potentially happening, but I think others can be forgiven for not being all for it due to his age so I don't get the venomous critique of those not jumping for joy at the prospect.

Fact is no one, not even Zlatan himself, could guarantee that he'd be a success here. Despite the season he's just had, he's a gamble, all transfers are but him more than most given the circumstances.
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its not more than most risk considering hes free.
 
TrustInJanuzai said:
its not more than most risk considering hes free.
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He'll also automatically become our highest paid player, not like there's no money involved although yes I know the club has more than enough in the bank. I meant more so just the risk of him flopping than the financial risk though.
 
Assuming he has agreed a deal with us, why has it not been announced yet? He knows he's going to leave PSG, knows who he signing for (presumably meaning he's signed terms) so why not announce it?
 
It would be awesome for the PL if he did join us. However, I do believe he still has reservations about the PL and is holding out for a Milan move, where he is certain to be well appreciated. I hope I'm wrong and that he gives himself the ultimate challenge.
 
My assumption is the hesitation is on our side. I reckon if we paid his wages he'd come. But I reckon Mourinho is weighting up whether he's better off making a longer term appointment, and indeed if a suitable longer term appointment is available.

I reckon he'll come in the end because I don't think we have (m)any better options.
 
Personally hope we don't look at any other options - not only will he bring goals but, a personality like him is what we desperately are missing on the pitch. There are some other options - most younger but, when you look at the benefits of what Ibra brings coupled with giving Rashford, Martial to become big time strikers of their own - getting anyone else at this point doesn't make sense. Ibra will be the difference in games against the likes of the Sunderlands and West Broms which we've struggled to put away in recent seasons.

Hope he is announced soon so we can focus on targets like a new CB and right side player which will probably more complicated to get.
 
TrustInJanuzai said:
its not more than most risk considering hes free.
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The risk is in the fact that with the salary he's on he'd be playing every week, almost irrespective of form. He'll certainly be given 6 months constant game time whether he's performing or looks completely shot.

The last thing we need is two aged player's on £250k a week with a guaranteed starting position irrespective of form, one is bad enough.

That's the difference in risk between a 24 year old and Zlatan. The former after 10 games performing poorly you can take him out of the limelight for a few months, play him in the cup competitions and hope he finds his form. The latter will have to be played for 40 games next season regardless (barring iniury).

On the flip side though if he continues his current form he'd be a great signing, particularly with Rashford hopefully developing into a first choice quality striker in the mean time.
 
finneh said:
The risk is in the fact that with the salary he's on he'd be playing every week, almost irrespective of form. He'll certainly be given 6 months constant game time whether he's performing or looks completely shot.

The last thing we need is two aged player's on £250k a week with a guaranteed starting position irrespective of form, one is bad enough.

That's the difference in risk between a 24 year old and Zlatan. The former after 10 games performing poorly you can take him out of the limelight for a few months, play him in the cup competitions and hope he finds his form. The latter will have to be played for 40 games next season irrespective (barring iniury).

On the flip side though if he continues his current form he'd be a great signing, particularly with Rashford hopefully developing into a first choice quality striker in the mean time.
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Like Falcao at Chelsea?
 
Cassidy said:
Like Falcao at Chelsea?
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No. Like Falcao at United.

Falcao at Chelsea was a somewhat inexpensive gamble (I believe in the region of £7m), whereas reports are that for Ibrahimovich it'd be £20m for one season or £25m for two.
 
finneh said:
No. Like Falcao at United.

Falcao at Chelsea was a somewhat inexpensive gamble (I believe in the region of £7m), whereas reports are that for Ibrahimovich it'd be £20m for one season or £25m for two.
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Falcao hardly played at United due to his form.
 
finneh said:
No. Like Falcao at United.

Falcao at Chelsea was a somewhat inexpensive gamble (I believe in the region of £7m), whereas reports are that for Ibrahimovich it'd be £20m for one season or £25m for two.
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But the point is you can easily drop him because he has no long term ties to the club. Regardless I don't see him flopping as long as we get a couple more players around him.
 
M Bison said:
Assuming he has agreed a deal with us, why has it not been announced yet? He knows he's going to leave PSG, knows who he signing for (presumably meaning he's signed terms) so why not announce it?
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Someone answer this mans question
 
Rory 7 said:
Am I the only who is not getting excited by this? I mean great player and all that but he's 34.
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That should indicate we're going to give time for Rashford and Martial to develop and expect them to be ready in 12-24 months
 
Mourinho isn't about to play someone purely based on the wages they're getting.
 
Cassidy said:
Falcao hardly played at United due to his form.
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He featured in the vast majority of games he was fit to play in - 26/38 games despite being injured for several weeks. This from a player that it was patently clear was woeful after maybe 5 appearances. He also started 3 of our 5 FA Cup fixtures. Also bear in mind he wasn't match fit when he arrived so that limited his starts (thankfully).

Only 6 outfield player's featured in more league games than him despite his injury (Rooney, Mata, Valencia, Fellaini, Di Maria and RVP - the latter 3 by 1 solitary appearance).

TrustInJanuzai said:
But the point is you can easily drop him because he has no long term ties to the club. Regardless I don't see him flopping as long as we get a couple more players around him.
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I don't see it as that easy. You commit £20m for a season and you have to give him every chance of succeeding.

Irrespective of form he'll be given 20 starts to show he can justify the few. After that he'll be given numerous appearances from the bench to show it.

He's also the type of character who wouldn't take him failing magnanimously. If things are going right he'll be an inspiration and a leader. if things are going wrong I could forsee dressing room unrest, with him blaming others for his problems.
He could be great, but it's a big gamble.
 
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Tiber said:
I dont think we are 1 short term striker away from the title to be honest. Id rather sign a top young striker to play with Martial and Rashford for years to come than a 34 year old who will have a good year in him. But thats just me.

Zlatan probably has more impact year one. Year 2? Hard to say, he might not wven be here. Year 3? Zlatan will be modeling sunglasses in LA.

Im fine with signing Zlatan, he will come in and bring goals and media hype for a while. Its just a very short term move for a team that is crying out for long term vision
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Signing a top young striker so that Rashford will not have any consistent game time for a decade seems more short term than signing an experienced world class striker that will leave when Rashford is 20 and ready.
 
dasty said:
Signing a top young striker so that Rashford will not have any consistent game time for a decade seems more short term than signing an experienced world class striker that will leave when Rashford is 20 and ready.
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You need more than 2 strikers. We had 4 pretty decent ones in 1999.
 
dasty said:
Signing a top young striker so that Rashford will not have any consistent game time for a decade seems more short term than signing an experienced world class striker that will leave when Rashford is 20 and ready.
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How do you know Rashford will be here for a decade?

Macheda was predicted for great things too. Let's wait and see with Rashford before we get a head of ourselves.
 
Bojan11 said:
How do you know Rashford will be here for a decade?

Macheda was predicted for great things too. Let's wait and see with Rashford before we get a head of ourselves.
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You can't seriously compare him to Macheada after what he's already achieved and shown us. The point is if we sign a young striker Rashford may never get his chance, player like Harry Kane would never have made it everyone had that attitude, sometimes you have to judge a talent and roll the dice, from what I've seen Rashford is certainly worth a chance.
 
Tiber said:
You need more than 2 strikers. We had 4 pretty decent ones in 1999.
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No top sides have more than two first team strikers. Some sides (Bayern, Madrid) have just one. 1999 was almost twenty years ago and a time in which many clubs played with two out and out strikers from the start.
 
TrustInJanuzai said:
You can't seriously compare him to Macheada after what he's already achieved and shown us. The point is if we sign a young striker Rashford may never get his chance, player like Harry Kane would never have made it everyone had that attitude, sometimes you have to judge a talent and roll the dice, from what I've seen Rashford is certainly worth a chance.
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He's had 3 months with the first team. Let's wait and see how he does in the next few years before declaring he's our striker for the next decade.

Also why wouldn't he get a chance? If the other striker is doing better than him, what is the problem? This is the type of attitude that has set us back a few years. Not aimed at Rashford. But we believed we shouldn't sign players because the likes of Welbeck, Evans and Cleverley will be here for years. Do you think other big clubs have this attitude? No because if they can improve on what they have then they will. We should always look to improve on what we got.
 
Bojan11 said:
How do you know Rashford will be here for a decade?

Macheda was predicted for great things too. Let's wait and see with Rashford before we get a head of ourselves.
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Yeah you're right, let's not make any rash decisions and massively overhype a young player who doesn't deserve it Bojan11.
 
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