zizou to psg just makes all sorts of sense
Zinedine Zidane - 3 time CL winning manager without a job
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There must be a name for it, but it's basically a cognitive bias that comes from discounting the things you can't observe (or in some cases, quantify).
As a football fan you can really only watch the football game, so it's convenient to think all understanding can come just from easily quantifiable in-game aspects.
Apart from the fact he's from Marseille.
Still, he seems to like money over principles so I'm pretty sure he'll be lured by the Qatar project.
It's why top managers will use both approaches and why Dave from Daventry works as the regional sales manager for Ginster Pastys
We'll see. I forget he is from Marseille
This is nonsense. Otherwise Simeone, Allegro, Conte, Mancini, et al wouldn't have the credit they do in today's game.
amen. When I see pundits or journos make claims like Zidane "has no pattern of play" I simply just face palm. It betrays their actually lack of understanding of the game
Literally all of them employ the press. even though some like simeone are on the extreme end of the defensive scale. The likes of Zizou and Ancelotti, even Mourinho who don't are not respected as much. Even less if they are the type who prefer their players to express themselves in a harmonious structure and think through situations as they arise. Rather than repeat automated moves over and over again like they are fresh from military boot camp
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It’s weird. For some reason I see Zidane as only ever managing Madrid. Maybe Juventus, and France too. For some reason I have this image of him as a managerial romantic.
This 100%. Look at Pep who’s had world class players at every job but hasn’t won in Europe for 10 years. Zidane is criminally underrated by some and he will get a big job again. Like some on here I think the France national job will be one he’s looking at next or PSG even with his Marseille ties.
I still see him ending up at Juve when Allegri is binned which might be very soon by the looks of it,
Juve over the last 3-4 years have been in a slump and need a boost, I can see Zidane doing just that tbh and bringing a bit of spark back to them.
Juve over the last 3-4 years have been in a slump and need a boost, I can see Zidane doing just that tbh and bringing a bit of spark back to them.
Juve have a pretty substantial rebuild job ahead of them. Not sure Zidane would fancy that. Especially not with their finite resources.
PSG makes too much sense not to eventually happen tbh.
I wouldn't classify any of them as using high presses on a regular basis.
Results matter first and foremost but think of the most dominant teams in history (including SAF's)... They didn't vibe and inshallah their way there. There was a defined structure (obviously with room for improvisation) that provided those teams with a very high floor to start from.
What manager on earth would want to bother with those 3 egos is my question. OK Mbappe will likely be quite professional but Neymar and Messi are lost causes.
Thought he was coach of Qatar for the WC?
You are basically agreeing with me. SAF if he coached now he'd be just as disrespected. He had a fixed structure and style built to enable his players to build key partnerships, express and think for themselves. It wasn't regimented duplication of fixed patterns.
The manager who has done that to extreme success of late is Zizou. Yet you will here some dare to claim say a Pochetino is a superior tactician
Right now that style is treated by mainstream punditry and press as "vibe and Inshallah". And fans are buying into it hook line and sinker
My only issue with this is that when people listen to this inept journos it creates bad discussion environments. Like we've literally just made great progress from 6th to 3ed to 2ed and yet, we are coached by amateurs because... because ignore real world football results and actual progression, and just look at some useless press stat that we should associate with "good managers".
Still hoping he gets hired as the French NT coach
Is there no chance that IF Solskjaer were to leave, he would be a favourite for the job here? The chance to manage a huge club with Pogba, Varane, Ronaldo and others would surely be attractive to him.
I tend to agree but then I remembered Ramsey. Zidane does love a squad with a perma injured over the hill Welshman.
Get this man in asap or Potter.
I'd love him, but no chance of getting him sadly.
Is there anyone else of the level remotely available?
Another one who can’t coach for shit, no thanks. This fraud wouldn’t have won a single thing without the insane squad he had. Knowing us though, he’ll be Ole’s replacement. God forbid us go for a coach with an actual style like Rose or Ten Hag.
Get him in now, let him bring his own staff as well.
Fecking hell
A manager who wins 3 CL's in a row can't coach for shit. No I heard it all. This place, don't know I even bothered, all the crazies come out when we loss like this 
Our side on paper is a match for anyone in the league. We don't need someone to overachieve with this side, we just need someone who will get them playing to their realistic potential. Zidane did that with Real, why can't he do that here?
I am admittedly a bit skeptical of how he'd perform outside Real, but fraud? You don't fluke your way to three CLs in a row.
Just an absurd opinion.
So basically an Ole that actually wins 3 CLs in a row ?
People have forgotten his trophy cabinet as a manager.
Surely this was disproven when he came back after bowing out with a CL treble and then won the league the following full season he returned?
Unsure.
Real Madrid were often outplayed under him.
Real Madrid were often outplayed under him.
3 CLs in a row, 2 Ligas, one without Ronaldo, missed one by 2 points. Clearly the French Ole.
Not sure I'd give a shit with all the trophies
No brainer!
I'm not sure about his coaching or tactical prowess but I wouldn't reject him.
What's his playing style?
The most I've seen of his team's were with Prime Ronaldo, Bale, Modric, Casemiro, Kroos, Ramos, Marcelo etc and those fellas could win without a manager.
Is he good enough?
The most I've seen of his team's were with Prime Ronaldo, Bale, Modric, Casemiro, Kroos, Ramos, Marcelo etc and those fellas could win without a manager.
Is he good enough?
So basically an Ole that actually wins 3 CLs in a row ?
Fecking hell
If you lot think his Madrid team looked like a well coached unit then maybe use your eyes. The man got extremely lucky with the squad he had and even in the run to those finals, got some staggering stupid ref decisions to help him out. Let's see how he does in his next job and then let's see who's laughing.