Martial is not a natural born striker. He cannot lead the line. He doesn't always make intelligent runs off the ball and his finishing has been good but not great. Werner is a more proven striker to lead the line which is why I would prefer we got him to lead the line when Lukaku is misfiring/ injured or suspended.
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Martial is not a natural born striker. He cannot lead the line. He doesn't always make intelligent runs off the ball and his finishing has been good but not great. Werner is a more proven striker to lead the line which is why I would prefer we got him to lead the line when Lukaku is misfiring/ injured or suspended.
Martial can be a ST, just not a CF. I think he proved that he was more than adept as a ST when he played there on arriving at OT. Leading the line, I'm allowing, is more of a CF thing; do Gabriel Jesus or Sergio Aguero really lead the line? They don't really do that, Jesus especially, so I don't really think that Martial's inability to do so would be problematic. As for making runs off the ball, that has more to do with Martial's lack of confidence as opposed to a lack of ability or intelligence. As for his finishing, I can't really imagine that Werner's finishing is significantly better than Martial's; it might be better, but not significantly better.
Yes, so he's 30 by the start of next season. (I understand 30+ to mean 30 or older.)
My point wasn't that Lewy or Suarez will retire soon, but that there'd be at least a mid-term perspective of becoming their heir. If Lukaku doesn't flop mightily, this perspective wouldn't exist at Utd. It would be two super-expensive strikers of roughly similar age.
Either way we need two quality strikers who can lead the line. If not Werner, someone else perhaps who can shoulder/ share the goals between them.
I bet he'd be worth every penny we pay. But as someone else said, he's not coming to play second fiddle.
Oh sure. I don't think Werner will move next summer at all by the way, there's no need. He will move when there's the guarantee he wil be the first man at one of the top 5 clubs or he won't move at all.
Yep, that's what I think too. In interviews he said that while he wants to move to a big club eventually, his development is his first priority & he might well stay at RBL.
Is this new german generation better than the french one ? I have to imagine a team with Pogba, Griezmann, Kante, Mbappe and Lacazette gets the better of them
Are those the same generation? Griezmann, Lacazette, Kante are 26, Mbappé and Dembélé 18 respectively 20.
So if you're going to include 26 year olds, you can also include Kroos, Gündogan, Müller. If we compare those squads, I wouldn't say the French one is better, and I guess the record supports this.
But if we look at young players, I don't think Germany can match the French pool in individual attacking talent. Those guys are just too good, even if I consider Sané up there too.
As for defenders, we have a range of great young ones with Tah, Süle, Kimmich, Henrichs etc.
Its kind of something I have noticed & it could well be wrong but the greatest attribute for the German team has always been their ability to really play as a team & a full force that makes it hard to win the ball from them, score goals against them whilst they can be clinical from their tackling to their shooting.
Individually the French players are better but to me the German team have this sense of needing much less management & coaching as a national football team. That to me is where the France individual talent may sometimes struggle to keep up.
With the way he's playing, Lukaku might easily end up playing second fiddle to Werner.
Sometimes I forget Griezmann is already past 25, he still has the speed and flair of a young boy. Kante came to the scene so little time ago that it's weird until he was 24 he was at Caen. Yeah, the german squad is probably better in defense and midfield. I just think some of these french players can create something or change a match out of nothing. The german players are much more used to dealing with pressure though, france was shocked at the EUROS final last year.
You're spot on, they are ruthless in every aspect of the game, really a compact and well organized team. It's just.. when I think ''Oh my god they have Pogba, Griezmann, Mbappe'' on paper it looks like the french won't be stopped, but Germany has really been dominating the game and they have done a superb job giving experience to the young players in the confederations cup.
Time is on France's side. In 4 years and beyond their team will likely be an absolute monster of quality and depth.
Max Meyer doesn´t renew his contract at Schalke and will leave on a free transfer this summer.
At this point it seems like Schalke does not care if their players leave on a free. Max Meyer is an interesting player converted from an attacking midfielder to a deep lying playmaker this season.
It would be very ill-advised for Max Meyer to leave Schalke right now. He is nowhere near as highly regarded in Germany, let alone in Europe, right now compared to 2014 after his first full season. He has definitely regressed amongst the sea of managerial changes and general lack of organization at Schalke over the last few years. Right now he is probably having his best season since 2013-14 and that too after a couple of seasons where he wasn't getting first team opportunities; now he's one of the first names on the sheet every match. Schalke look to have finally found a stable manager in Tedesco who is overachieving given the squad they have and, though they are losing Goretzka, can improve over the summer if given enough funds to strengthen some positions. He has the confidence of a young coach who looks like he can improve the team and is himself playing a high level, would be wrong for him to stop the progress made this season.
I don't see any club at the same level or of a higher level than Schalke where Meyer would get the amount of playing time he is getting right now. Maybe there is something Meyer's agents have cooked up that the press doesn't know of, but I haven't read of any interested parties as of now as well. I fear Meyer falling down the same line as Marin if he decides to leave now. Marin didn't take the opportunity to leave when he was on a high after the 2009-10 season and in the end regressed with Bremen's slide, ultimately making a bad move going to Chelsea and not getting any playing time since then.
I don't see any club at the same level or of a higher level than Schalke where Meyer would get the amount of playing time he is getting right now. Maybe there is something Meyer's agents have cooked up that the press doesn't know of, but I haven't read of any interested parties as of now as well. I fear Meyer falling down the same line as Marin if he decides to leave now. Marin didn't take the opportunity to leave when he was on a high after the 2009-10 season and in the end regressed with Bremen's slide, ultimately making a bad move going to Chelsea and not getting any playing time since then.
Whatever happened to Dahoud? Was very highly rated last season but hasn't been playing much for Dortmund this season.
Ofcourse the lunacy of Bosz's term didn't help as he wasn't able to get a settled spot in the squad. I still rate him very highly though he has been disappointing uptil now, he's very high energy and therefore makes mistakes but I'm sure he'l come good with a bit of stability in the team. Him and Weigl seem a good (maybe not perfect because of Weigl's lack of mobility in midfield) pair in midfield and I hope he gets more opportunities to improve and they play together.
Gundogan also struggled when he first came from Nurenburg and only kicked on in the second half of his first season, hoping for something similar from Dahoud who plays a very similar style.
His development has been stalling for at least 2 years now, I wouldn't shift the blame on his new club or former coach. He just doesn't seem to progress on a mental/cognitive level. His decision making, spatial awareness and positional play are still that of a youth player, and I start to believe it might stay that way.
Seems like another "all talent in his feet, none in his brain" type of guy.