Yaya Touré: "I want to destroy the Pep myth" (France Football interview)

SqualorVictoria said:
Now that the whitest of the white people has spoken, who is accidentally also the manager's favorite, it really puts a stain on Pep's motives.
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Yeah, don't you hate it when white people have an opinion?
 
Rob said:
Yeah, I'm fully aware that Toure's a bit of a twat but speaking from experience (my students'), it can be difficult as feck to come out with these things. Nevermind if you read on a quite reasonable site like Redcafe that Toure's just an idiot and probably lying. Even if this is merely a football forum, it still has millions of viewers of all races. Even if Toure has made his own bed, I just think we should wait before passing judgment. Hopefully it turns out to be nothing.
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Rob said:
You make it sound like I'm to answer for millions of strangers only because I support the same football team. As I said, that whole affair was a disaster. But not really the issue here.

I'm not calling anyone out, btw. I just wish that people would wait and see what comes out before calling Toure a liar.
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I don't know what you are waiting for. you will be waiting an eternity. Toure suggested that Pep is "too smart" to actually do anything racist (i.e. be an actual racist) and instead just do the unthinkable and not play 35 year old Yaya whose "stats" are better than anyone elses. 100 pts and 106 goals don't matter.

M18CTID said:
Of course you’re not responsible for what others say or do. I was just interested to know if you were as critical of those people as you have been of those who are calling bullshit on this on this forum. With Yaya’s track record of spitting his dummy out, it’s not surprising that people are sceptical. Of course, that doesn’t mean it’s definitely not true and if it turned out it was true, then Guardiola should be sacked on the spot. However, if you read the quotes it comes across as someone who is just throwing a lot of mud around and hoping some of it sticks. In any case, I’m not even sure there has been a clear accusation of racism from him but he’s certainly implying something along those lines.

From a personal point of view, I actually met Yaya last year. It was the day after the last game of the 2016/17 season and City were hosting a series of events across Manchester. I was part of a group of fans invited to the stadium to spring a surprise on him and despite all the shite spouted by him and his agent in the past, I have to say that I thought he spoke quite candidly and it had me wondering why he’d come out with all the other stuff such as the birthday cake rant (incidentally, I think the club actually gave him 2 birthday cakes so why he was moaning he didn’t get any is beyond me).
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His agent seems like a real menace. A conspiracy could be that this is to maintain Yaya's value. He is not passed it. Pep just does not see his talents as he is racist.
 
Has the full interview been aired or was that all he said?
 
So uhhh, he did do this interview, right? It's not been cancelled or anything?
 
Boateng who seems genuinely baffled about Yaya's comments:



"I can't share that opinion at all. I never had a problem with him (Pep). On the contrary. I found he was a fantastic coach. Therfore it's really hard for me to comprehand those comments. It wasn't like that at Bayern."
 
If it isn't true, speaks of the kind of guy Toure is.
 
Adisa said:
If it isn't true, speaks of the kind of guy Toure is.
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What IF is supposed te mean here? Do you genuinely believe that Guardiola might have said something racist to Toure? That's as unlikely as a 35 y.o. Toure doing more sprints than any other player in the PL.

The quotes from Toure seem to imply that he infers a racist attitude from Guardiola's decision not to play him despite him being in good physical form. He must be a racist to not play the great Toure.

I'd be hugely surprised if the evidence Toure referred to was something actually said.
 
Treble said:
What IF is supposed te mean here? Do you genuinely believe that Guardiola might have said something racist to Toure? That's as unlikely as a 35 y.o. Toure doing more sprints than any other player in the PL.

The quotes from Toure seem to imply that he infers a racist attitude from Guardiola's decision not to play him despite him being in good physical form. He must be a racist to not play the great Toure.

I'd be hugely surprised if the evidence Toure referred to was something actually said.
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I don't believe it but who am I to say it's not true? That's why I used "if".
 
David Alaba (father from Nigeria, very open and proud of his African heritage) also has spoken about how much he missed Pep after he left Bayern. Pep called him "our God" when they were at Bayern together.

Not saying that Pep cannot be a racist, but at least it does not appear to be a universal thing against all players of African heritage given him very close relationship with guys such as Alaba and Boateng.

https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/video/alaba-miss-guardiola-bit-152232695.html?guccounter=1
 
It's clearly a load of shit. Toure is a seriously unpleasant man.
 
This is such a serious allegation. If this isn't true, Pep should sue him for defamation. You can't come up with shit like this and get away with it. This is so fecking pathetic and irresponsible. And I don't even like Guardiola.
 
Seems to me the headline could just as well have been:

Yaya Touré: "I want some attention now that my career is in decline"

Given Tourés previous shenanigans and the lack of evidence, I am more than willing to give Pep the benefit of the doubt here. I don't particularly like Pep, but these are pretty serious allegations.
 
Mrs Smoker said:
That's his agent.
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This guy?
Dimitri-Seluk-Yaya-Toure.jpg

Yea it sure looks like him doesn't it? :rolleyes:

Edit: I thought you meant the picture was his agent. Didn't even read the handle. The picture is shite tho...
 
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How self obsessed is Yaya? He's been walking around the pitch like a couch potato ever since his fantastic season at City. Played for a City who required high energy which he doesn't provide, his legs are gone and he's probably their worst midfielder after Delph.

So he completely ignores any of the above because he thinks he's the shit and blames it down to discrimination? This is definitely up there with Africa letting him down and the birthday cake. A fool, simple as.
 
Wait, his agent really posted that pic on twitter? :lol:

These cnuts must be on drugs or something.

How can you post a pic like that during these serious allegations?
 
afrocentricity said:
It looks like a picture making him out to be some tribal warrior doing voodoo. It's shite whoever it comes from. Thanks for clearing that up tho....
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He's been saying this week that Yaya is going to put an African curse on Pep and that Yaya will play for any top 6 club for £1 a week + bonuses to prove to City they were wrong about him.

Yaya would be better off ditching this bloke although he had him earning £250k a week to the age of 35.
 
Sounds like there could be more coming out about this in a few days.

I imagine Guardiola is sitting tight at the moment waiting for it all to come out. His lack of comment is probably legally driven.

Sounds like Toure isn't letting this go.
 
Camilo said:
It's clearly a load of shit. Toure is a seriously unpleasant man.
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Aye, he pretty much stopped trying 3 years ago. And was happy to turn up to training for the money. Guardiola has come in and told him some truth bombs. Pulling out the race card is pretty low, especially after the send off City gave him with mosaics, re-naming the training pitches after him and a life time season pass. They were trying to make him a legend, but he's just a leg end. I'm sure that some short-sighted club owner in China is planning on filling up Yaya's already bursting bank account with 300k per week, and as soon as they turn their backs he will probably slag them off as well. What a lovely man!
 
CA1 said:
Sounds like there could be more coming out about this in a few days.

I imagine Guardiola is sitting tight at the moment waiting for it all to come out. His lack of comment is probably legally driven.

Sounds like Toure isn't letting this go.
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Best to move on lad. Yaya has already stated he doesn't have any particular "racist incident" or anything concrete. The most likely is he was treated the way Pep and Jose treat their outcasts, but because Yaya is a narcissist, faultless and must be worshipped, it must be because Pep does not like African players specifically, nothing else.
 
Stacks said:
Yaya has already stated he doesn't have any particular "racist incident" or anything concrete.
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He did?

Is there a link for the full interview? I couldn't find any.
 
Stacks said:
Best to move on lad. Yaya has already stated he doesn't have any particular "racist incident" or anything concrete. The most likely is he was treated the way Pep and Jose treat their outcasts, but because Yaya is a narcissist, faultless and must be worshipped, it must be because Pep does not like African players specifically, nothing else.
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Somewhat likely, in the event that he doesn't back up his claims.
 
ivaldo said:
The whole thing is a mess, frankly. He goes from Pep being jealous of him, seeing him as a rival, to being baffled by why he wouldn’t play him, despite being largely shite, barely mobile and completely unsuited to Peps style of play. The only conclusion he can allow himself to believe is it’s because Pep is racist. Firstly disliking players of colour, and then specifically African players.

When you add this to his past outbursts, one of which he claims Africa is prejudice against Africans, is it any wonder people are disregarding it?

Why is it so acceptable for him to brazenly make such accusations? If there was a genuine problem, this wouldn’t be the way to deal with it.
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Pretty much
 
padr81 said:
Been away for a week so late to the party. Simply I don't believe Yaya, why?

His first statement was "I started to wonder if it was because of my colour" nothing to do with Africans. Now add to this the team featured, Kompany, Fernandinho, Mendy (when available), Sterling, Sane, Delph etc...
Then midway through he switches to Africans and says Pep will never field a team with 5 African born Africans, thats a big ask for any manager really isn't it? Has a single team in Europe done so?

This is Yaya trying to cause shit because well he' Yaya. How himself and his brother can be so different I'll never know.

In the above I read people saying he's done the same to Eto'o and Iheanacho, conveniently leaving out Zlatan, Hart, Deco, Ronaldinho. I think Pep doesn't like dealing with big personalities (Iheanacho aside, who lets face it can't get in the Leicester team too...) and immediately alienates them as soon as he walks in the door. Basically anyone who is likely to question him in the dressing room gets ignored, dropped and fecked out. Is it an ego thing? Maybe. Is it racism? Nope.

Keita who he signed also never mentioned his race in any interviews on why he didn't play.

Now that said if Yaya comes out with some proof and Pep is guilty of treating him different because he has an issue only with Africans if they are black, or only with black people if they are African, it's grounds for sacking. But I'm 99.9999999999999999999% confident, he won't and himself and Seluk will spend the next year talking shite again.

In reality, his legs have gone, he can't play our system (or arguably any system) and he's throwing round excuses because of his God complex.
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good post
 
Keita is an odd example for people to bring up, he was a squad player, who never had anything negative to say about anyone. Also, he played 46, 44, 56 and 42 games in each of his seasons at Barca. He DID play, quite a lot. And he was both black and African born. The only 3 big players Guardiola actually "fell out with" to use those terms, were Eto'o, Zlatan and now Toure. All 3 are famous for being egotistical, "must be centre of attention" big mouths who have long strings of bustups, fallouts, media spats and other incidents in their past. And Eto'o was the only one who could actually do what Guardiola wanted on the pitch because he was mobile, fit and extremely hard working as well as technically proficient.
 
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