Gaming Xbox Series X|S

Which of these do you prefer

  • Microsoft Game Pass

  • Xbox Game Pass

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Redlambs said:
I mean, again, why does that bother you? Console only gamers have ALWAYS been misinformed about PC gaming and the costs involved and they've ALWAYS been overhyped by what they've been told about their new machines. It has always been and always will!

That doesn't devalue what they are at all, I still buy all the new consoles as I'm a gamer and I only really care about being entertained by them. Difference is, I don't give a shit about kids arguing about things they know nothing about on trash places like Youtube comments :lol:

It's better for your mental health if you don't too ;)
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I think you're misreading my posts man. What are you on about??
 
Redlambs said:
The trail of posts is there to see, I shouldn't have to explain.

But I'll let you back out of your initial comments all the same :lol:
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Whatever man, not trying to back out of anything, just think you're picking up what I was saying incorrectly and what's with your all caps typing? Honestly couldn't be arsed having a conversation.
 
I like the new controller a lot, but I had some amazon vouchers so I'm going for the elite 2 for the 3rd time. Wish me luck!
 
DixieDean said:
I like the new controller a lot, but I had some amazon vouchers so I'm going for the elite 2 for the 3rd time. Wish me luck!
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How many times have you bought them off Amazon?

Because your account will be flagged for returns abuse if you carry on returning them.
 
Bojan11 said:
How many times have you bought them off Amazon?

Because your account will be flagged for returns abuse if you carry on returning them.
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That happened to me. I've never opened the packaging though.

Bought 10600k then a 10700kf then a 10600k. Then a 10100. Do as I say not as I do. :lol:
 
Bojan11 said:
Does not matter. A return is a return on their system and not only will they ban you, they will ban any other household members who use Amazon and even that address.
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Is there any advice you can give me. I have 190 quid tied up with amazon. All I did was being an indecisive idiot and overthinking about price to performance etc and then new 10850k came out and then I was just like this is too much. Listen I've lost more than that in a hand of texas holdem but its the fact that they're so unwilling to look at it manually. It's all ai and shit or at least that what I gather from it.
 
DixieDean said:
ban me from using Amazon, altogether?
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Yes. They’d ban everyone in your house and blacklist your address too.

It was on watchdog. Here’s the video.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p037bqh1

Paxi said:
Is there any advice you can give me. I have 190 quid tied up with amazon. All I did was being an indecisive idiot and overthinking about price to performance etc and then new 10850k came out and then I was just like this is too much. Listen I've lost more than that in a hand of texas holdem but its the fact that they're so unwilling to look at it manually. It's all ai and shit or at least that what I gather from it.
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Just buy some cheap crap for a quid each. It will look good to the computer who picks it up. Just boost up how many items you buy off them and keep the returns minimal.
 
Bojan11 said:
Yes. They’d ban everyone in your house and blacklist your address too.

It was on watchdog. Here’s the video.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p037bqh1



Just buy some cheap crap for a quid each. It will look good to the computer who picks it up. Just boost up how many items you buy off them and keep the returns minimal.
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The returns happened with the cpus. fecking you know yourself the 10600k performance was brilliant for gaming but then I thought about exta 2 cores and price and then whin decided against it, 10850 came out. fecking intel. I'll do what you have suggested though.
 
15 years later the achievements on Hexic HD are still brutal.
 
so where's the best place to pick one of these up this side of Christmas

has that ship sailed or is there going to be another retailer release of units

in UK
 
buckooo1978 said:
so where's the best place to pick one of these up this side of Christmas

has that ship sailed or is there going to be another retailer release of units

in UK
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Not sure, it wouldn't surprise me if there are more available soon.
 
Playing around with the filters on gamepass, 274 games on gamepass alone.. 90 on eaplay 360 games.. crazy value.
Add in games with gold..
 
buckooo1978 said:
so where's the best place to pick one of these up this side of Christmas

has that ship sailed or is there going to be another retailer release of units

in UK
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Maybe Black Friday but I wouldn’t hold your breath. I tried to get one on the 10th when more stock was made available and despite being ready bang on 8am I faced nothing but problems. Websites crashing, adding it to basket but never actually going into the basket and then eventually getting to checkout before being hit with the out of stock message again. It’s an absolute nightmare, comes down to pure luck and how fast your fingers are, doesn’t help all the fecking scumbags using bots to instantly hoover up all the stock just to sell them on eBay for a £1000+ later on.
 
VeevaVee said:
Interesting. I was flying on wz last night. Felt way more confident than when I was at 30 without 4k and with pony graphics. No idea if I’m stuck at 60 because my tv doesn’t support 120hz though. I’d rather have the option, because a lot of people are saying even though their monitor only supports 60, it still plays better at 100+
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Higher fps will always feel lots better, no matter the monitor/tv you use.
 
I hate modern gaming.

My copy of Cold War arrived today and guess what? You can't play the campaign offline. Why? Well, because there is NOTHING on the disc. It's just a licence. So, this means the game needs a 130gb 'update'. So, it's downloading the whole game!

To rub salt in the wounds, I've only just remembered that Xbox now allows you to pre load any game even if you intend to buy it on disc. I could have had this downloaded days ago.
 
VeevaVee said:
Interesting. I was flying on wz last night. Felt way more confident than when I was at 30 without 4k and with pony graphics. No idea if I’m stuck at 60 because my tv doesn’t support 120hz though. I’d rather have the option, because a lot of people are saying even though their monitor only supports 60, it still plays better at 100+
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Hasn't Warzone always been 60fps on console? Or at least tried to be. I tried it at 120fps today and you're not missing much! It felt the same as 60fps to me.
 
DixieDean said:
I hate modern gaming.

My copy of Cold War arrived today and guess what? You can't play the campaign offline. Why? Well, because there is NOTHING on the disc. It's just a licence. So, this means the game needs a 130gb 'update'. So, it's downloading the whole game!

To rub salt in the wounds, I've only just remembered that Xbox now allows you to pre load any game even if you intend to buy it on disc. I could have had this downloaded days ago.
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Yeah, but aren’t you against digital gaming?
 
DixieDean said:
Hasn't Warzone always been 60fps on console? Or at least tried to be. I tried it at 120fps today and you're not missing much! It felt the same as 60fps to me.
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Ah feck knows. It’s feeling smoother on my Series X though, which must have helped.
 
VeevaVee said:
Ah feck knows. It’s feeling smoother on my Series X though, which must have helped.
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Were you on One X or One / S before?

Often the base One and the One S would be at 30-40 frames so the Series X will lock at 60 even if you can't go higher and is miles smoother I agree. The high res textures and higher res output generally make a big difference. Miles better.
 
Alock1 said:
Were you on One X or One / S before?

Often the base One and the One S would be at 30-40 frames so the Series X will lock at 60 even if you can't go higher and is miles smoother I agree. The high res textures and higher res output generally make a big difference. Miles better.
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I was on the og One. Yeah, the clarity helps loads too.
 
There is a big jump in smoothness between 60 and 120 fps imo.
 
Ole90+3 said:
What games have you tested this on? Waiting on my new dell monitor to arrive which will display 120@1440p so looking for good games to test it on.
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I played mw at 1440p on my pc at 120fps. Had much smoother experience than 4k 60 on the same TV. Using 120hz Oled by the way.
 
Why are digital games so much more expensive than physical disc versions. You can buy them £15 cheaper. Never understood that.
 
Redlambs said:
First of all, to answer your earlier questions, it's a system built on top of two other systems. You have the Xbox UI built on top of the MS store built on top of a stripped Windows 10. That's why it has multiple stupid logins and button presses for certain things, for example redeeming the free stuff you get with the gamepass: You can't just click on it and get it, it takes you to a code screen then an enter the code screen, then 2 confirmation screens. And, here's the thing, my boy didn't know he had to go through all that so he panicked when he only did the first screen because if you don't go through all the others it disappears off the freebie screen. Instead I found if in the redeemed codes screen, even though it wasn't actually redeemed. It's classic MS store.

I'm actually really surprised and disappointed in how it all works, having dealt with all this shite on the PC version I thought for sure it would just be a dedicated Xbox UI and the MS store would be taken out for the console, but sadly not. I mean I deal with multiple stores, the PSN, Steam, Epic, Battlenet, even bloody Origin to name a few and they are all contained. They all have their issues, but they are at least focused. The Xbox is a frankenstein of 3 systems cobbled together and it shows, it's not intuitive at all in way too many cases.

I do actually like the console itself though, I like the look more than I'd thought and I like the controller. It's clear where they've cut the corners in development (UI and controller) to keep the price down, but the overall thing is very nice for that price.


Anyway, you might be able to help me mate as I've two questions on the new one where I might be being an idiot:

1) Do you HAVE to sign into a MS email account for a new profile? I hate that it's already linked to my PC on the main one (stupid fecking "achievements" show up on my bloody monitor, MS are horrible for that stuff. I can stop it, but it's still tedious), but for additional ones am I missing a way to just have a local profile?

2) When playing the 360 games, like Gears for example, is it always a case of having to download profiles just to play them? I've played Perfect Dark and Gears 1 now and BOTH needed me to download the same series X profile! And multiple to play splitscreen. That's ridiculously inconvenient.
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I don't really know what you're on about. Do you mean the free stuff like Disney+? All I know is buying a game on the store is a breeze. Maybe getting gamepass that 1 time if using a code, or buying a 360 game isn't the most optimal but generally, buying an Xbox One or Series game is easy.

The store generally is strong now. And if these are the main complaints about the UI and why it is so rubbish, then it's doing a pretty good job I think.

I think you have to have an outlook email linked to all accounts these days. Dummy accounts work, or like you said, just turn notifications off (or a rule for emails from Xbox).

On backwards compatibility, if I load a 360 game it just signs my gamertag in on the 360 and syncs cloud saves with it. I don't have to add a new profile every single time no.

If it's just the downloading of the profile, it should just be the first time you load that 360 game (and should take seconds). When you next boot the game, you should just get a really quick cloud save sync.
 
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