I'd consider it, but will ultimately buy the proper one instead.
Gaming Xbox Series X|S
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I'd consider it, but will ultimately buy the proper one instead.
I’d consider it as a secondary console alongside my PS5 but I wouldn’t downgrade. It’s sort of a half step towards being next gen without actually being next gen.
Is the Series S worth it even at £250? You’d want a noticeable power difference for next gen.
It isn’t a next gen console.
Nah they are different. The Xbox S is kind of like a cheap halfway step into next gen so won’t boast the same power as Xbox X of the PS5 and won’t run 4K etc. The digital PS5 is still just as powerful as the one with the disk drive, it will just be cheaper as Sony gets to control the digital games marketplace.
I’d only contemplate getting the £250 version if you aren’t interested in 4K and just want a cheap entry point to play some casual games.
What’s the point then? Why’s it being released the same time as the Series X?
According to the Steam hardware survey only 2% on PC players game at 4K. 1080p and lower makes up over 85% of PC players.
Totally different to console though.
4k is the norm for TV's now, for monitor's it's rare, expensive, and generally for performance enthusiasts.
Of course it is. Despite a vocal minority parttoting the same PC masterrace BS, this generation will be the closest consoles have been to PC gaming.
PC will always have the edge but to run a rig that plays 4k or eventually 8k you need to be investing hundreds, if not thousands a year to keep up with the new tech.
I’d assume MS are trying to tempt more casual gamers. As it’s digital only they’ll be less inclined to switch consoles in the future. Sensible move but I’m not sure it’s a particularly good move for the industry.
It is a next-gen console. It will play the latest games for the next 6-7 years
I mean, it depends on how you look at it. Games will still look better on PC if you have a decent rig and hit far higher frame rates, which is more important than ever before with high refresh monitors becoming so popular. Is that really so different to how it was seven years ago when the PS4/XBONE came out?
I don't really see it as a competition, for lying on the couch consoles are clearly the better option but if you want to get the most out of a game, especially on multiplayer, PC is still going to be the #1 option. I'm a fan of both, personally.
It's got the same CPU and RAM as the Series X, which means the Series S is more powerful than the PS5 in those areas.
I can't make my mind up for this. On the plus side, £250 puts it in Christmas present territory (just) in a way that £500 isnt. So it could sell really well in holiday season for that alone. Would be a nice pressie for a teen in their bedroom.
On the other hand, the machine doesn't look like it has a clear market. If you have an Xbox One X (or PS4 Pro) I don't see this being a worthwhile upgrade. If you want to get something spanking new gen, this isnt it either. Even if you just have a really nice TV but dont play a lot of games, like me, you'd still want a console that take advantage of that. I suppose for people with an original PS4 or Xbox who can't afford the full thing it makes it more accessible, but given the built in backwards compatibility, you might be better off with as second hand Xbox One X (~£200 on eBay when I looked and no doubt cheaper when this thing launches).
The real key thing will be the price of the other consoles. If they're £450 or thereabouts, then this thing is a non-starter. If they come in at £550-600 then I think this could be a winner. At that price a lot of people might buy one now then get a full fat machine when the price drops in a couple of Christmases.
On the other hand, the machine doesn't look like it has a clear market. If you have an Xbox One X (or PS4 Pro) I don't see this being a worthwhile upgrade. If you want to get something spanking new gen, this isnt it either. Even if you just have a really nice TV but dont play a lot of games, like me, you'd still want a console that take advantage of that. I suppose for people with an original PS4 or Xbox who can't afford the full thing it makes it more accessible, but given the built in backwards compatibility, you might be better off with as second hand Xbox One X (~£200 on eBay when I looked and no doubt cheaper when this thing launches).
The real key thing will be the price of the other consoles. If they're £450 or thereabouts, then this thing is a non-starter. If they come in at £550-600 then I think this could be a winner. At that price a lot of people might buy one now then get a full fat machine when the price drops in a couple of Christmases.
It's a next gen console the same way the One S was. The One S and X and just been replaced with the Series line of consoles.
But it has the same power as the Xbox One X? Will games look anywhere near as good as on the Xbox Series X on it or what?
Sounds like a copy of the iPhone XR model
I completely agree. I'll get a PS5 for 99% of the games and still have my PC for any games if prefer to play on there.
Two Point Hospital is on Game Pass. It’s basically the same thing.
FFS, I need to start checking gamepass more. I've just bought my gf this on the Switch.
The resolution will be comparable to the Xbox One X but it blows it away in every other aspect. It has the same CPU and SSD (but smaller) as the series X has.
Put simply, it will play games that the Xbox One X can't. The One X is no longer being made and will probably only have games made for it for the next 12 months or so.
That’s not true.
This.
I think that’s an absolute touch from a business point of a view. Those that are questioning the market for it - everyone here is a nerd so obviously want the biggest, shiniest new thing, but not everyone is like that. There’ll
be loads of parents interested, people that don’t really give a shit about gaming but wouldn’t mind it for fifa, my mate who’s a cheapskate will still be able to play cod with us.
Will probably sell quite steadily too, as less games are made for both gens. Most people that want the top spec model will want one straight away.
be loads of parents interested, people that don’t really give a shit about gaming but wouldn’t mind it for fifa, my mate who’s a cheapskate will still be able to play cod with us.
Will probably sell quite steadily too, as less games are made for both gens. Most people that want the top spec model will want one straight away.
It's a good move I think.
I've got a friend who plays Xbox, and when the X came out, upgraded (Even though he plays on a monitor thats 1080p) (I cant get through to him)
So this machine would be perfect for him, although no doubt He'll get the series X...
I've got a friend who plays Xbox, and when the X came out, upgraded (Even though he plays on a monitor thats 1080p) (I cant get through to him)
So this machine would be perfect for him, although no doubt He'll get the series X...
Not even comparable for consoles though.
Er yeah it is. A lot of people are still more than happy to play at a solid 1080p and will continue to do so, as will a lot of PC gamers.
This is only a good move IMO.
For your kid who wants a new Xbox (or close to next gen experience), you can get this for half the price. I don't particularly see parents wanting to spend £500 on their kids next machine.
This gets you into next gen in a way that you can play the same games with your friends, just at lower resolution. Minecraft, Fortnite, Fifa, Call of Duty for your teenager at the better performance without breaking the bank.
I won't buy one, but I think this + GamePass is a very good option for the average consumer and for the younger audience who can't afford the big boy consoles. Especially when kids these days want the latest mobile phone and tablets on top.
For your kid who wants a new Xbox (or close to next gen experience), you can get this for half the price. I don't particularly see parents wanting to spend £500 on their kids next machine.
This gets you into next gen in a way that you can play the same games with your friends, just at lower resolution. Minecraft, Fortnite, Fifa, Call of Duty for your teenager at the better performance without breaking the bank.
I won't buy one, but I think this + GamePass is a very good option for the average consumer and for the younger audience who can't afford the big boy consoles. Especially when kids these days want the latest mobile phone and tablets on top.
I assure you a hell of a lot more than 2% of console gamers will game at 4K. Most pc gamers (bar the truly dedicated few) do not have 4K monitors. Virtually every console gamer has a 4K tv... and that’s before these next gen consoles have even released.
The question is, how many people who are casual gamers also want the latest thing? That's what seems odd to me. Most casual gamers will just stick with what they already have until it stops getting new games. Cut back consoles are usually a way to encourage late adopters to finally let go of old machines and get on board, rather than leaders to get people on the platform early. The risk of course is that they simply cannibalise their own market.
The Series S isnt targeting these people though. Xbox will always sell less than PS5, so Microsoft seem to be targeting the casual gamer and young (parents buying) gamers at that price point - or even as some posting here, a secondary console to their PS5 main purchase. It’s filling a gap in the market. Why have a bmw 3 series when you have the 5 series etc
Dedicated PC players play at 1080p or some at 1440p at a push
Last gen's PS4 would've been closer to PC as well if Sony had decided to price it higher. It had GPU equivalent to AMD 7850 which was quite decent at the time and was only a year old although Nvidia 700 series blew it out of the water.
If they do as rumoured and bundle this in to a monthly plan for under £25 a month with game pass, that’s gonna shift some units!
I agree with you, I think it’s a clever business decision. I’m responding to a stat that was posted above which has been cited to support the idea that most gamers won’t benefit from the new 4K tech (or are happy to play at 1080p, which is true for pc gamers, but less so for console gamers).
That’s precisely my point. Most console gamers have the hardware to game at 4K, whereas most pc gamers do not.
They’ll probably have to have the next gen in a few years won’t they? I think at that price they might be tempted to say feck it and do it sooner though.
My point was PC gamers want to game at 1080p. We don't really care about 4k, it just hinders performance.
But I agree, most console gamers play at 4k, not because they want to, but because it's the more accessible option.
Most competitive Xbox players would actually want to game at 1080p with higher frames if it was an option, which it isn't. Maybe with the 120hz thing this will become a bit easier for them, but not all games will support it.
Console is completely aimed at the couch / casual gamer and 95% of users are exactly that
Yup, and that was my initial point. The stat above doesn’t give any indication as to the satisfaction of gamers based on resolution, nor does it attempt to. It’s just cold hard facts - only 2% of the respondents game at 4K on pc. We can speculate as to what the specific reasons are (and you raised some pretty good points), but ultimately the stat is neither applicable nor particularly relevant for console gamers. Most will be able to play at 4K, so most will therefore want their consoles to allow for 4K capability.
Eventually sure. That's why cutback or remodelled consoles often end up coming up with a price drop mid-cycle, they encourage late adopters to finally transition over. What I'm not clear about is why they're launching with one. Particularly since I read the old MS consoles will play next gen games, just with cut back graphics.
