When people say that, they mean treating it as a equal sport on its own merits, i.e., it should be taken with the same seriousness as the men's game, but as a contained entity; I don't think they're suggesting that the way men and women play the game, and play the game differently, should be directly compared and judgments made - men are always going to be faster, stronger, and probably more recklessly committed. Women tennis players are not as strong and fast or such powerful hitters as the men, but women's tennis enjoys a far more comparatively equal status, because of the game's longer, most established history.
WWC23 | England v Spain - Spain win the World Cup - and Rubiales gets sacked
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It's tempting to think it would help, but this isn't just about his lack of respect for his women's players. It's a weakness right at the heart of football - the same one that let Blatter run FIFA as his personal empire for decades.
In any case, unless we're also saying FAs shouldn't have female staff or work with female journalists, sponsors and marketeers etc - it only moves the problem back to where it was before the women's game went professional. In other words the women complaining will be women no one has heard of.
The principles around safeguarding are no different to historic issues around youth football and incidents there, like criminal misconduct (including sexual abuse) and bullying under the cover of banter and "toughening them up". Racism, overt and covert, still thrives in parts of football (and other sports). Nepotism is rife and the hierarchies provide their own judges and juries.
You can't fight a problem without fighting the people who are the problem and the systems that keep them in power, or that protect them from scrutiny.
Solid point. While this is distressing for the women and its very unfair that this is overshadowing a fecking WC win, it is a good chance to 'drain the swamp' as they say. My post was more just disbelief at how badly it has been handled. I am generally in awe when a situation has been handled poorly when there was no real need to.
I don't think people should be obliged to take it seriously at all if they don't want to. I personally don't enjoy watching as the players are slower, weaker, smaller. In the same way i wouldn't watch an under 15's game or a second division game. I'm very happy to ignore it completely just like I ignore cricket or snooker.
But if a critical mass of people do want to watch it, all power to them. Nobody should hold the sport back. That's why they need their own governing body. The men's game is extraordinarily corrupt and debauched sexually and financially.
This is scary. To be so incredibly brazen with their entitled, coercive, and gaslight-y response when the entire world has seen the evidence at a world cup final is indicative of deep cultural issues thoughout the system.
I said treated seriously on its own merits; if you leave that bit out, it alters what's being said.
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I wish you also had zero interest in constantly reminding everybody of how bad you think the women's game is.
Well said, I bet he has never gone into the cricket forum and said he has zero interest in cricket.
He says this, but my man is always on the hunt for Diamonds
My point is that this spanish FA guy has actually made me think there is a genuine political problem here. Women's football deserves to thrive on its merits without being held back by people like this.
But it's also fine to say as a sporting spectacle I don't much care for it.
This has just taken a bizarre turn.
Why though? No-one asked for your opinion on women's football.
For all those saying this and comments like this, this is worth watching, one of the best ads I've seen in a while. Of course no one has to watch women's football, but it is just as enjoyable as mens.
Aplogoes if this has been posted before, it really is excellent.
This whole thing has become completely absurd. Feels like that entire Spanish FA needs to be thoroughly cleaned out. You have to laugh at some of it, but at the same time their behaviour is deeply disturbing. I really, really hope this results in a change for the better, but somehow I doubt it.
It started with a kissss never thought it would come to this
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I don't want to generalize but why do the Spanish always become so overdramatic whenever they get caught out being cnuts?
This situation, Barca's levers and cheating scandal, Manuel from Fawlty Towers. The list goes on.
No-one asks anyone for their opinions on anything. It's a football forum. I felt like posting something about the Spanish FA being backwards and outrageous. I added the rider that I don't watch women's football just to clarify my point of view. Not sure why that should put your knickers in a twist unless you're some kind of white knight in which case bore off.
It’s just weird. Like I’d enter a thread about basketball to let everyone know I don’t care about basketball.
No it's like entering a thread about the Spanish FA to give my opinion on the Spanish FA. You're obviously very keen to pick a fight with the patriarchy though. Good luck with that.
That’s my point. Don’t understand how whether you rate women’s football has any relevance to the thread or subject.
Well it's also a thread about women's football so it's reasonable to say that in passing. You wouldn't be getting on your jousting horse if I'd said I think women's football is great, would you?
Amazing to think that one man’s ego and stupidity could result in us never having to play a Spanish team in Europe ever again. Which I see as an absolute win.
Guess it was reasonable and necessary enough for you. Personally don’t see how that’s relevant to anything that is being discussed in this thread.
Never thought I'd see someone running a European FA with a bigger ego than John Delaney but here we are
So you keep saying.
That's obviously not going to happen. The FA trying to self-destruct Spanish football to save one dodgy bloke is just another disgusting attempt to put pressure on the actual victim of this whole farce.
Welcome to Afghanistan.
I really like the fact that now he has his mum going on "Hunger Stike" in support of him...how very "macho" acts the big guy then hides behind his mothers skirts! what a massive dickhead!
Spanish govt making a live statement right now about this.
He should feel like shit for making his own mother starve herself and get all worked up over what he could have easily just settled with an apology at the start. It wouldn't have erased the creepiness of everything, but it wouldn't have blown up like this. And now he has exposed the rest of the creeps who are supporting him and blaming, attacking Jenni.
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This is just bonkers.
Also, how has his mum got the keys to a church?
Also, how has his mum got the keys to a church?
It’s in Motril.
Told my wife when we stopped off there that Motril is the place you retire to if don’t save your money. A right tip of a place, compared to Nerja, etc.
Told my wife when we stopped off there that Motril is the place you retire to if don’t save your money. A right tip of a place, compared to Nerja, etc.
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Apparently Rubiales is among the supporters of the current UEFA president and thus by default not in the camp of Infantino at FIFA... It's been suggested maybe that's a reason why FIFA was faster to react.
I had to double check the news in other sources but it really is. Absolutely bonkers shit. The mans family is a piece work. I've read in the Spanish media that apparently the father was an old socialist politician who has some dirt on some of the people in government. Absolutely bananas.
Luis Rubiales: Spanish prosecutors open preliminary sex abuse investigation
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/66640485
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/66640485
No more Sevilla or Getafe matches sounds perfect.