He had one decent game vs Barcelona in the first leg. Apart from that, he's been utterly dire
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He had one decent game vs Barcelona in the first leg. Apart from that, he's been utterly dire
McFred in midfield with Sabitzer slightly ahead of them, or Fred Sabitzer with Sancho in the hole against weaker opponents we are expected to dominate. This is all makeshift anyway when Casemiro and Martial are out, hopefully the latter is back for Brentford and we don't have to worry about this anymore.And who do you expect to find Bruno without Eriksen in the midfield
Start with Fred, McT, Sabitzer, Bruno, Antony and Rashford. Play Bruno as false 9 if you wanna keep Rashford absolutely on the left. Stronger midfield, no fecking shit Wout starting.
And zero creativity in the midfield, and zero ball sticking and hold up play in the 9 position, makes sense
We have options, I disagree, in no way should Weghorst start all the time. I'd rather stick Bruno as a false than play this abomination of a footballer
Did you see creativity yesterday? Did you expect creativity with that setup ? What do you actually expect from Wout ? Let's be real, yesterday's lineup was a shocker from ETH.
Playing McT so close to WW was one of the worse tactical decisions of the seasons (the worst one was subbing both Varane and Martinez in the same game)
We won't be now Martial is fit. As for Bruno as a false 9, I disagree. Our options have been limited
Well there's your problem - any well run club will be constantly evaluating options in every position. There should be an entire department dedicated to that. They shouldn't wait until they're in a desperate situation to start looking at players.
No creativity yesterday no
Creativity with that setup - yes we've seen it before.
Shocking lineup (yes with limited options)
You're just ranting
You disagreeing with it is fine but it's still an option. It cannot be worse than starting with 10 players
Actually your problem is that you are failing to follow a thread where I have stated the club are at fault, also you're ignoring the quite obvious point that we required a short term solution due to budget constraints (so none of the long term options would have fit)
I'm not ranting. Tell me the game where creativity was displayed by having Wout as 9 and McT as 10.
We've seen it before and it was
Please do tell which games then.
We've seen plenty of games this season that shows that our creativity comes from Bruno and Eriksen, so moving Bruno out of midfield and is going to be bad.
It didn't work yesterday, we played plenty of games with Woot as the 9 since Jan and won, including against Newcastle
The last game Bruno played as a false 9 and it/and he was a complete disaster last season vs City
Anyway the main reason why ETH won't do it, is that he wants creativity in the midfield and Eriksen is missing. Last reply from myself
We have 3 wins in 9 in the league with Weghorst starting. 12 points from a possible 27. Scored 12 (0 from him of course) and conceded 16.
He's a fecking calamity in this league.
Far as i'm concerned, he shouldn't play another minute this season, Martial injury or not.
Even his pressing now is none existent. Hoping Martial can start games in the very near future. We improved immensely when he came on prior to those random substitutions which shouldn’t have happened….
What's your point exactly? Did we beat Barca not? Did we beat Betis or not? Did we win the league cup final or not?
I'm not saying he is good, I'm saying we didn't have many other options, and we had even less yesterday
I like the guy and I’m sure he’s a personality in the dressing room and all. But I wouldn’t want him playing up front for United again as a starter.
Last 5-10 minutes to put himself about a bit (I won’t say to win a few headers as he can’t jump and his headers have limited power/direction).
Martial will also be gone in the summer and will be injured no doubt again soon but let’s play him now and no messing about with Weggy from hereon in.
Rashford up top if no one else as he has looked poor and disinterested again wide out the last few games. At least we can then put another wide player on - but we have got plenty of them out of form now too…..
Not great again, is it!!!!
Last 5-10 minutes to put himself about a bit (I won’t say to win a few headers as he can’t jump and his headers have limited power/direction).
Martial will also be gone in the summer and will be injured no doubt again soon but let’s play him now and no messing about with Weggy from hereon in.
Rashford up top if no one else as he has looked poor and disinterested again wide out the last few games. At least we can then put another wide player on - but we have got plenty of them out of form now too…..
Not great again, is it!!!!
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Cup games and league games aint the same. Also when Casemiro is playing Bruno is further forward etc.
When Casemiro is out and Bruno has to play deeper, we cant also have Weghorst on the pitch. Not for any Prem game. It's just suicidal.
And there are other options up front. Like Rashford with Pellestri or Sancho out wide. Far from ideal but at least not as hopeless as Weghorst.
Please get him out of the club asap. Its so depressing see him start. It's like playing with 10 men. He limits our play so badly.
This is the thing; he's spent, so the little he was offering, he can't do anymore. There's no point to him without the grafting.
It's reached the point where he needs to be pulled because there's no [positive] contribution.
Rashford form was the reason. nout to do with Weghorst. We have won 4/10 premier league games Weghorst has featured. We win in spite of this lad
The Glazers. didnt release the funs for January when we may have signed Mbappe!
It was a bad day throughout the squad, except for De Gea, Weggy figuratively leading the line in our overall direness.
Ah fair enough. Can’t get Mbappe so may as well sign Wout Weghorst.
ive got no problem with the club taking a chance and bringing in WW thinking maybe he could do a job. But at this point i can blame EtH for not finding someone else to play up top and i sure as hell will blame him if WW gets brought back somehow for next season. Clearly not good enough, even if doesnt cost a single penny for transfer
We've had Pellestri, Bruno, Garnacho, Sancho, Antony and Rashford as options for 3/4 positions.
So there's really been no need for him to start every game.
I wish it was just an average bad performance. If passes just don't come off or shots are uncharacteristically wide one could at least hold on to the consolation the next game will be different. With Wout what we're seeing is what we're getting, what we've been getting and what we will continue to get.
Well, we did - but Weghorst was taken off at half time with Barca 1-0 up...
Drives me crazy. What the hell do people think was happening before he got here? After losing our first 2 games we benched Ronaldo and it was Rash at CF and we went on a win streak. People here will grow attached to their own shadow. How can anyone think his playing is a matter of having no options when we already went half the season just fine without. Shitting on our actual players just to prop up a temp loanee.
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We won all those games in spite of Wout and most of those games were massive struggles. Yesterday wasn't about being creative, it was about being solid and hitting Newcastle on the counter which is a tactic that's doomed to failure with Wout. We didn't need to win
So you went to last season when our convo concerns this season and the impact or lack thereof regarding Wout playing up front. Makes sense
The mental gymnastics to justify ETH playing Wout at all costs is crazy. It's like he is the be all end all of our team
A conference level player having the time of his life here. It's a feel-good story for him.
Our counterattacking also fell off a cliff since he joined. No way teams could push up as high as they did on sunday without shipping at least one breakaway goal.
Yeah I’m totally done with the big guy. I’d honestly play anyone from the squad instead of him.
The notion that it's better to carry on with WW as a number 9 instead of Rashford is baffling.
He has his use and I feel for him, he's struggling big time. It couldn't be any clearer he's not suited for this level of expectation
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