Would you take Ten Hag at United?

Would you take Ten Hag at United?

  • Yes

    Votes: 1,547 92.3%

  • No

    Votes: 129 7.7%
  • Total voters
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Absolutely. 100% the type of intelligent, progressive young manager we SHOULD be going for.

In reality I imagine he'll go elsewhere, while we plump for a Zidane or Conte 'Proven' type and continue to spin our wheels.

Champ said:
Nope.
The archetypal flavour of the month.
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Same was said about the likes of Klopp, Nagelsmann & Rose. So long as we're astute enough to filter out the charlatans (De Boer comes to mind) then this should be a good thing.

I'd say the same for Graham Potter who I think would do well here too.
 
Caesar2290 said:
Tbf this can be applied to any manager out there, Pep, Klopp, SAF, you name. But there is a difference between seeing how a team plays and coach a team to play that way.
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I can see how one might have thought I meant 'it should be simple to communicate these ideas to the players'. The questions in question are more along the lines of "why the @#%$ing bloody blue hell is no one implementing those ideas?"
 
Resounding Yes.

I genuinely don’t think Ian Holloway or Phil Brown would be doing a worse job than Ole
 
I could see Garner, Mejbri and Laird all greatly benefitting from this.
 
Best candidate for the job out there at the moment. Would be my first choice by a distance.
 
DWelbz19 said:
He’s so vogue right now. People will sit here and make snarky comments about how our board won’t consider him because he’s not well known enough etc. But concerns definitely exist over this guy just as they do for Conte and Zidane.

In the same way someone like Conte (who is wrongly perceived as negative, but that’s another thread) would inherit a side that doesn’t fit his system, as would ten Hag. Our players aren’t used to the 433. We haven’t played it under Ole in over 2 seasons. We also have one of, if not the, laziest attack in the league. That’s going to take some doing to start getting them to press.

There’s also the fact that historically Dutch managers have been pretty poor in the PL, as well as recent exports (De Boer; Bosz; Cocu) — all being a bit crap when given an opportunity.

I think the biggest plus for ten Hag is that he looks really good in the CL. That alone probably says he’s a level above those before him. A name we should consider? Most likely. But I don’t think he’s an absolute number 1 on the list at all.
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gut feeling, but I think he’s the type of manager who’d look really good if he ended up at City or Bayern. We don’t do well with this type of manager, generally speaking.
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You don’t want to over-index the decision of who the next manager should be on continuation of whatever football Ole is trying to play. We have no identity anyway so any manager coming will be a departure from Oleball.
 
He's definitely one of the candidates for the job. Would have no issues with him taking over but I think he's more bound for Barcelona
 
OleGunnar20 said:
Absolutely. 100% the type of intelligent, progressive young manager we SHOULD be going for.

In reality I imagine he'll go elsewhere, while we plump for a Zidane or Conte 'Proven' type and continue to spin our wheels.



Same was said about the likes of Klopp, Nagelsmann & Rose. So long as we're astute enough to filter out the charlatans (De Boer comes to mind) then this should be a good thing.

I'd say the same for Graham Potter who I think would do well here too.
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Potter would be another Moyes. The players would not respect him enough and the first moment things would turn sour they'd play to get him sacked.
 
BlueHaze said:
Potter would be another Moyes. The players would not respect him enough and the first moment things would turn sour they'd play to get him sacked.
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Potter would not be a Moyes - for starters they set their teams up completely differently. Moyes has always been a negative coach setting his teams up not to lose, Potter has always been a lot more progressive and attack-focused.

I'm not suggesting Potter would be my first choice by any stretch, but its harsh to compare him to Moyes.
 
Kaos said:
Potter would not be a Moyes - for starters they set their teams up completely differently. Moyes has always been a negative coach setting his teams up not to lose, Potter has always been a lot more progressive and attack-focused.

I'm not suggesting Potter would be my first choice by any stretch, but its harsh to compare him to Moyes.
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I agree with that but you know, joining a club like this from where he is, it's a major step up. No CL experience, no experience of handling "superstars" Fair enough the way he sets up brighton to play is bold and exciting to watch but he's much yet to prove before being given a job at a top club imo.
 
He won't leave mid season and that's a problem. We can still save the season and I dont want another care taker manager. I agree he should be offered the position and if he doesn't take it, go for Conte or Zidane.
 
bond19821982 said:
He won't leave mid season and that's a problem. We can still save the season and I dont want another care taker manager. I agree he should be offered the position and if he doesn't take it, go for Conte or Zidane.
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I hope the board aren't acting in that way. If a progressive young manager whose team play a very attractive style of football won't come until the summer, we shouldn't do huge turn and go for Conte who is the definition of a short-term manager. I hope we have a more long-term approach, unlike in the past 8 years.
 
Bastian said:
I hope the board aren't acting in that way. If a progressive young manager whose team play a very attractive style of football won't come until the summer, we shouldn't do huge turn and go for Conte who is the definition of a short-term manager. I hope we have a more long-term approach, unlike in the past 8 years.
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Well, no manager is long term anyway. It's not like Ten Hag is the last one available or he won't come in future. Give Conte 18 months and take it from there.
Ofcourse there are risks like other clubs could poach him but we need a change. I don't think our board will be foolish enough to write off a season after 8-10 games.
 
Sadly this ain't going to happen. We are never clever enough to make this happen.
 
Those saying he won’t even be on our radar would be right a few years ago maybe. But I think Murtough is well aware of his existence.
 
hungrywing said:
I can see how one might have thought I meant 'it should be simple to communicate these ideas to the players'. The questions in question are more along the lines of "why the @#%$ing bloody blue hell is no one implementing those ideas?"
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I'm not a manager, but since very few managers do it I imagine it must be very hard just to understand these concepts yet alone convey them in a comprehensible manner to your average football player. It's something like not everyone can be a quantum mechanics physicist. So the same must be true with top class managers.
 
BlueHaze said:
I agree with that but you know, joining a club like this from where he is, it's a major step up. No CL experience, no experience of handling "superstars" Fair enough the way he sets up brighton to play is bold and exciting to watch but he's much yet to prove before being given a job at a top club imo.
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The whole Moyes situation developed from him being a bellend from day 1. Instead of retaining the WC coaching staff we had at the time and that knew and comanded the respect of our title winning squad, he thought he was some big time Charlie and fired them all. Then he replaced them with some average Joes nobody even heard of. No wonder he lost the dressing room.

Potter on the other hand is totally different. The way he sets up his team even the tactics and coaching. I've yet to see 82 crosses in a game with Brighton and Hove in it.
 
bond19821982 said:
He won't leave mid season and that's a problem. We can still save the season and I dont want another care taker manager. I agree he should be offered the position and if he doesn't take it, go for Conte or Zidane.
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Yeah a caretaker would be a nightmare because you know what happens with those
 
I doubt he'd come mid-season.

The most likely scenario of him joining United would be if we hire an interim manager (maybe Conte) and then bring in ETH in the summer.
 
MvG said:
Those saying he won’t even be on our radar would be right a few years ago maybe. But I think Murtough is well aware of his existence.
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He's gonna be on our radar without a doubt and Marcel Bout actually knows both Ten Hag and Arno Slot from what i've read online. Not that i'm saying Slot is a genuine candidate for the role right now but he's someone that looks very promising and should be someone that could progress to a bigger stage in the future.

We also have Henny de Regt (Head of European scouting) who has strong links to Ajax and was the head of their academy for a period of time. If there's one coach who they will know about it's Ten Hag from the prospective targets imo.
 
I know nothing about Ten Hag other than watching those exciting CL performances. As I've said before, we need a proper modern coach to transform this football club. He seems to the most highly rated one amongst managers of that ilk who are available but I wouldn't have seen enough of them to differentiate. So of course I've voted yes.
 
It's just unfortunate timing - as seems to be the case with us. He would be my ideal choice, but I don't see him coming mid-season. So they will probably sign either Zidane or Conte, who even though I think could do very well, aren't progressive coaches.

Going into this season with Ole was an opportunity missed imo which is down to the board's inability to identify patterns before they're obvious as feck.

An interesting option who I think we could snap up mid season would be Luis Enrique - his teams play some great football and he's currently with a NT.
 
FatTails said:
Would he potentially leave Ajax mid season ?
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If he's as good/has the potential people think he does, then just sign him on to join at the end of the season. It's important we lay the groundwork now for our next managerial appointment rather than spend our summer doing that.
 
With the likes of Tuchel and Nagelsmann gone, a resounding Yes! I would be negotiating with him right now if I were in charge. But we'll probably faff around until he goes somewhere else. Will he leave Ajax mid season? Why not? We're Manchester bleeding United. Those jobs don't come every day. If we really want him, flex the necessary muscle and let's see him refuse. Not like he's joining a team of championship level grafters. No brainer!
 
amolbhatia50k said:
I know nothing about Ten Hag other than watching those exciting CL performances. As I've said before, we need a proper modern coach to transform this football club. He seems to the most highly rated one amongst managers of that ilk who are available but I wouldn't have seen enough of them to differentiate. So of course I've voted yes.
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He without a doubt is that coach, Amol. Whether he would be able to implement his plans at United remains to be seen. But if he is successful, then we'd witness some of the best football at United for decades imo. And his style of coaching has the potential to seep all the way down to the youth teams, which could create a real footballing identity throughout the club, which we've lost. Bayern have benefited in a similar way imo.
 
Adnan said:
He without a doubt is that coach, Amol. Whether he would be able to implement his plans at United remains to be seen. But if he is successful, then we'd witness some of the best football at United for decades imo. And his style of coaching has the potential to seep all the way down to the youth teams, which could create a real footballing identity throughout the club, which we've lost. Bayern have benefited in a similar way imo.
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What annoys me is that we have wasted the paat 2 years which have gone trophyless just carrying on with this screw good football style of play and which could have been spent coaching this team into playing a progressive brand of football. The modernisation of Manchester United is the inevitable that we keep delaying.
 
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