Would you take Conte at United?

[Scarlett Dracarys]

59% of people's dreams are about to be crushed in 3...2...1...

Que?

 

[Zaphod2319]

I doubt Rashford, Greenwood, or Sancho have much to fear long term. Conte will always find a way to get talent on the pitch. I think the casualties will be some of your midfield players and possibly Ronaldo. Conte will demand everyone plays defense and presses.

 

[Rolaholic]

I agree with this. If he's going to thrive anywhere it's with four other players there to do his job for him, whilst he hides from the ball, instead of one or two.

Are we talking about Van De Beek or McTominay here?

 

[Loon]

Are Talksport taking their cue from Italian media? "According to sources in Italy..." will be the indicator. Sky weighed in?

 

[croadyman]

59% of people's dreams are about to be crushed in 3...2...1...

Listen he wouldn't be my top choice either but if we aren't prepared to meet Ten Hag compensation then nothing we can do

 

[Dobba]

Are we talking about Van De Beek or McTominay here?

Van De Beek. For all his faults, McTominay did more in the opening 10 minutes against Leeds last season than that cowardly twat has ever dared in a United shirt.

 

[WeePat]

I doubt Rashford, Greenwood, or Sancho have much to fear long term. Conte will always find a way to get talent on the pitch. I think the casualties will be some of your midfield players and possibly Ronaldo. Conte will demand everyone plays defense and presses.

It would kind of fun to see Conte try to turn Sancho or Rashford into wingbacks a la Victor Moses.

 

[the_cliff]

I think if we do get Conte his style of football will surprise a lot of people, and a lot of people will be eating their words. World class manager and tactician.

"I did not have Zinedine Zidane or Roberto Baggio's talent as a player, and I have played with both, that even when they were circled they could try to break through or create interesting situations with the ball. When I was a player, my efforts and work-rate, my willingness to sacrifice fitness and humility made up for my lack of pure talent but sometimes, if I didn't find a teammate next to me, I might lose the ball. As a manager, my first thought from day one was that I wanted to find solutions for my players when the ball reached them, as I could not. If my players don't understand something, I force the player to ask me why we are doing such movement or working on certain tactics in training both offensively or defensively. I always want my players to be fully understanding of the problem. I want them to understand why we are doing certain things and why those things are useful."

 

[Widow]

Le pourcentage de non à contr

@Scarlett Dracarys

 

[croadyman]

I doubt Rashford, Greenwood, or Sancho have much to fear long term. Conte will always find a way to get talent on the pitch. I think the casualties will be some of your midfield players and possibly Ronaldo. Conte will demand everyone plays defense and presses.

Well the midfield is in dire need of a shakeup so nothing against that

 

[JakeC]

The thing is...

Oles first xi could theoretically at least fit into that.

Mctominay,Varane,McTominay
Awb, Fred, Shaw
Rashford, Bruno, Pogba
Ronaldo

But, if he wanted go really do it, he could....

-----------rcb---cb-----lcb----------
Rwb----Cmr-----cml---------Lab
------------------CAM
----------STR----------STL----------

with Lindelof, varane, Maguire, dalot, Fred, pogba, telles, Bruno, Ronaldo, Rashford

Bailly, Mctominay, Shaw, Awb, donny, lingard, Greenwood, Cavani told to fight for their place. And rotated in.

Mata, Matic, Jones, all there to fill in but be replaced

 

[Pscholes18]

Are Talksport taking their cue from Italian media? "According to sources in Italy..." will be the indicator. Sky weighed in?

Inept fecking board. They don't even try.

 

[VanHaal'sRedArmy]

No I meant in response to those saying we get Conte now. there’s no point hiring Conte now if he will leave after 2 years and then we go in a different direction again

Obviously if we could get Ten Hag now that would be my preference

Why would Ten Hag come here though? He has options at Ajax and an open table with Barca.

 

[TMDaines]

He's odds on everywhere right now.

 

[golden_blunder]

Why would Ten Hag come here though? He has options at Ajax and an open table with Barca.

He’s coming with VDS

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

Why would Ten Hag come here though? He has options at Ajax and an open table with Barca.

Take over Barça with no money, sounds like a fun way to feck up your career.

 

[VanHaal'sRedArmy]

He’s coming with VDS

So goodbye Fletcher/Murtaugh?

Take over Barça with no money, sounds like a fun way to feck up your career.

Also some very talented young players he can build on.

 

[stevoc]

The thing is...

Oles first xi could theoretically at least fit into that.

Mctominay,Varane,McTominay
Awb, Fred, Shaw
Rashford, Bruno, Pogba
Ronaldo

But, if he wanted go really do it, he could....

-----------rcb---cb-----lcb----------
Rwb----Cmr-----cml---------Lab
------------------CAM
----------STR----------STL----------

with Lindelof, varane, Maguire, dalot, Fred, pogba, telles, Bruno, Ronaldo, Rashford

Bailly, Mctominay, Shaw, Awb, donny, lingard, Greenwood, Cavani told to fight for their place. And rotated in.

Mata, Matic, Jones, all there to fill in but be replaced

I reckon playing with only 9 outfield players would put us at a severe disadvantage every game.

 

[macheda14]

I want Conte purely for this:

 

[golden_blunder]

So goodbye Fletcher/Murtaugh?

Why? VDS is a CEO not a DoF. Overmars is that at Ajax. VDS to replace woody would be my move and have his input into the next manager. I’d imagine his vote would be Ten Hag

 

[Orc]

The player of yours that I’m curious to see how Conte fits in is Bruno. Like if he uses the 3-4-3 he used when he was with us where could Bruno even play? Playing him in CM further away from the goal negates his biggest qualities and you’ll get killed defensively against top sides. And you’d probably have to partner him there with slow, old Matic.

 

[tenpoless]

If he comes it will be his test to get the best out of what we currently have. Including them wingers/wide players that are very talented and too good not to be used. I doubt he will ignore the quality in that area just because he mostly played as 3-5-2. We dont need another manager so hell bent in playing one formation instrad of trying to get the best of the resources. Cough... Ole.. cough.

 

[WeePat]

I want Conte purely for this:

I spent two years hoping we'd get at least one explosive press conference like this one.

 

[Adnan]

Di Marzio doesn't say a deal has been struck to appoint Conte but rather he's on the list with other names like Zidane and initial contact has been made with Conte and his reps.

Neil Custis is reporting that Conte, Zidane, Rodgers and ten Hag are the 4 names on the short list, with a agent instructed to guage the plan each candidate has for the club going forward including contract terms.

 

[EtH]

1. He’s a cnut.
2. His CL record is appalling.
3. He has never dealt with the current level of competition in the PL in any of his jobs.
4. He will demand a long term contract which he will never see out.
5. He will demand full control of transfers.
6. His tactics are dated and shit to watch.
7. He won’t be able to accommodate Bruno and Sancho. It will be either / or.
8. He’s a cnut.

 

[croadyman]

I spent two years hoping we'd get at least one explosive press conference like this one.

So from a rival fan point of view who do you think is the best fit for this current team out of Conte/Ten Hag, going to completely ignore Custis throwing Zidane and Rodgers names in the shortlist because no smoke at all

 

[VanHaal'sRedArmy]

Why? VDS is a CEO not a DoF. Overmars is that at Ajax. VDS to replace woody would be my move and have his input into the next manager. I’d imagine his vote would be Ten Hag

It's a big stretch on a lot of moving parts, changing managers is hard enough but then to add someone who reports directly to a board that we fans don't see eye-to-eye with is damn near impossible.

 

[Cloud7]

Now that it seems like he's the one I'm starting to warm up to this idea

 

[adexkola]

The player of yours that I’m curious to see how Conte fits in is Bruno. Like if he uses the 3-4-3 he used when he was with us where could Bruno even play? Playing him in CM further away from the goal negates his biggest qualities and you’ll get killed defensively against top sides. And you’d probably have to partner him there with slow, old Matic.

What happened with Conte after the title winning season at Chelsea?

I didn't watch much of Chelsea that season but one game sticks out in the memory: 1-0 defeat against City at the Etihad. At one point it looked like Drinkwater couldn't be bothered trying to win the ball back from City. Does this ring any bells? I recall thinking how defeated and insipid Chelsea looked at the time.

 

[Eddy_JukeZ]

1. He’s a cnut. Who cares?
2. His CL record is appalling. The biggest negative he has.
3. He has never dealt with the current level of competition in the PL in any of his jobs. No one thought Chelsea were a Prem contender the 1st season he arrived. They blitzed the league.
4. He will demand a long term contract which he will never see out. Then he won't get the contract. Even if he doesn't see it out, who cares? Managers don't stay for 5 + years if they underperform.
5. He will demand full control of transfers. He won't want the board to sign players for marketability reasons only. Nothing wrong with that.
6. His tactics are dated and shit to watch. Not true. Hazard says Conte trains automations in attack. Jose did not. His sides are tactically astute. Far better drilled than anything Ole and our current coaching staff can dream of.
7. He won’t be able to accommodate Bruno and Sancho. It will be either / or. So? The club is bigger than those 2 players.
8. He’s a cnut. Again, who cares? SAF wasn't a saint either.

 

[Sarni]

He’s not the perfect candidate and there are definitely better managers out there but we won’t get any of them at this point in time, and he could be our only option to save this season.

It does feel like the team doesn’t suit his usual playing style and tactics at all, with the lack of wing backs, no balance in midfield and multiple players that don’t fit the style he had usually preferred. I would hope that a top tier manager will find a way to overcome this without necessarily having to spend £250m to build another ‘new team’ that we would then have to dismantle within 18 months off his departure.

 

[glazed]

Conte and Ronaldo together wouldn't end well at all.

Ronaldo and anybody won't end well tbh unless they are willing to build the team around him

 

[Eddy_JukeZ]

Ronaldo and anybody won't end well tbh unless they are willing to build the team around him

Ronaldo is 36 and about to turn 37.

We shouldn't hitch everything we do on Ronaldo's wagon.

 

[EtH]

He’s not the perfect candidate and there are definitely better managers out there but we won’t get any of them at this point in time, and he could be our only option to save this season.

It does feel like the team doesn’t suit his usual playing style and tactics at all, with the lack of wing backs, no balance in midfield and multiple players that don’t fit the style he had usually preferred. I would hope that a top tier manager will find a way to overcome this without necessarily having to spend £250m to build another ‘new team’ that we would then have to dismantle within 18 months off his departure.

Serious question. How is he supposed to save this season ? Do you genuinely believe he would mount a title challenge this season because his CL record is pathetic. I don’t see the logic in this potential appointment from any angle.

 

[WeePat]

What happened with Conte after the title winning season at Chelsea?

I didn't watch much of Chelsea that season but one game sticks out in the memory: 1-0 defeat against City at the Etihad. At one point it looked like Drinkwater couldn't be bothered trying to win the ball back from City. Does this ring any bells? I recall thinking how defeated and insipid Chelsea looked at the time.

That game annoyed me more than the 6-0 loss the following the season. Bizarre game.

 

[Dobba]

That game annoyed me more than the 6-0 loss the following the season. Bizarre game.

VDB will be salivating at that video. Even he can put in effort like that.

 

[Bondi77]

Who would want this cheating cnut at our club??

 

[Crashoutcassius]

Not wanting Conte is one thing, not wanting Conte when the alternative is Solksjaer is quite another.

Is that the only alternative? What are you honestly talking about haha

 

[WeePat]

So from a rival fan point of view who do you think is the best fit for this current team out of Conte/Ten Hag, going to completely ignore Custis throwing Zidane and Rodgers names in the shortlist because no smoke at all

I don't know much about Ten Hag to be honest with you. I've watched Ajax maybe a handful of times, and only in the CL. Conte at United is pretty scary though.

 

[FatTails]

The player of yours that I’m curious to see how Conte fits in is Bruno. Like if he uses the 3-4-3 he used when he was with us where could Bruno even play? Playing him in CM further away from the goal negates his biggest qualities and you’ll get killed defensively against top sides. And you’d probably have to partner him there with slow, old Matic.

Aren’t Haavertz and Mount both attacking midfielders playing as inside forwards either side of Lukaku/Werner in a 3-4-3?

Bruno, Greenwood, Sancho, Martial, Rashford, Lingard, Mata, Amad, and Elanga will be competing for two starting positions basically, either side of Cavani/Ronaldo.

It’s currently like that anyway. Fitting three of them in with a Ronaldo/Cavani is causing us to be too open and unbalanced. I’d imagine even someone like Zidane would play with 2 of the forwards and a striker, along with three midfielders. I’m convinced that if Ole is here next week, he’ll replace one of the four attackers with a third midfielder in a proper 4-3-3, or with a defender in a 3-4-3, leading us to play with 3 of all our forwards/strikers only anyway. It was clear as day how unbalanced the team is vs Leicester and Liverpool.