He's making the same mistake as Jose with personnel decisions. You can't reward players on past merits with automatic starting positions. Shake up the lineups and open up the competition, Bailly, Henderson VDB, and Greenwood should start next game. Sit Rashford, James, Lindelof, and Pogba.
Would you sack or keep Ole? (Poll reopened)
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An embarrassment of a line up. Enough players in that squad to give Palace a game and yet we couldn't. Shockingly bad again
Ole's at the wheel guys. Can't wait for another hard fight for a top 4 place. Will be quite a bit harder than last season mind.
Very true this is on Ole. We shouldn't need to spend 120m to beat palace at home yet we got humiliated.
At this point, we're going to have to accept that whoever is our manager will be hamstrung by incompetent club leadership. Switching out managers isn't going to fix the rot at United.
OMG! Stop blaming Ole!!
Woodward and Glazers are to blame
Woodward and Glazers are to blame
Maguire 80m, AWB 50m, James 12m, Bruno 45m, DVB 35m which is 222m in 12 months. How much more does Ole need to spend to implement a style? With no money left for big signings, let's sign Poch. Yes I know he has not won any trophies, Spurs eneded in disaster but he plays football in a way I enjoy. Brighton away. Spurs at home, Newcastle away, chelsea home and arsenal at home are the next 5 games. I can only see us getting a result at Brighton and Newcastle right now. My prediction if the squad stays the same, 4 points from 24. We are a laughing stock with rival fans.
If people are going to call for Ole to go now then I give up.
My opinion will never change with Ole, just can't see him taking us to that next level even if we had 11 world class players on the pitch.
That was fecking shite and several players needs a big kick up the arse or his head is going to be next on the block
The performance and the way we look hasn't changed from the last 3 months of last season.
This is it as long as we stick with Ole.
One dimension. One tactic.
Were not finishing top 4.
Everton will finish above us
This is it as long as we stick with Ole.
One dimension. One tactic.
Were not finishing top 4.
Everton will finish above us
I honestly cant understand how he started TFM. He has to be one of the worst players I've ever seen play for us. Why was AWB on the bench? Either he is fit or he is not. Baily should have been centre back and lindelof right back(ok he turned out to be shit also) but still TFM gave palace hope.
Also I hope Pogba never plays for us again. Ever.
Everton have flipping Carlo and we expect to go somewhere with Ole. Cut the rubbish!!
He's not, and never has been, a particularly good manager, but he has not been backed this summer. The coming season's inevitable failures are to be blamed primarily on the senior management at the club (Joel, Avi and Ed).
To be honest, yeah this will come across knee jerk, but I stick by what I said at the end of next season.
Getting that CL spot saved Ole his job, but this season is going to be a waste of a season with him in charge because he really doesn't have an idea.
He's had two great runs in between a lot of dross, but these runs come at just the right time to keep him in favour.
His first, when he took over, and his second when Bruno came in.
Before Bruno, Ole was on his last legs, miles off that 4th spot, and without a glimmer of hope. The Bruno effect wore off and nearing the end of the season we were back to that shakey Man United, ultimately scraping that 4th spot on the last day of the season.
People say points totals don't matter, and sure you cant judge a season off points alone, but we finished on the same points as we did the season before. The only progress is we looked better, but we only looked better when Bruno came in, before then, we were on course for the worst season since Fergie left.
So yeah, I think this will be another wasted season.
The only positive right now is, hopefully we get a reaction in the transfer market.
Liverpool have made moves, Chelsea have, Arsenal have and Tottenham have, yet we fumble every season
Even worse ....Leeds
He's in his 3rd season, 2nd full season.
2.5 seasons in I'm expecting a much bigger push. He has talent available to him, and I'm sure we will get a right wing of sorts before the window closes.
After Oct 5th he will be under pressure. Can't get away with as many shit performances this season as he did last.
2.5 seasons in I'm expecting a much bigger push. He has talent available to him, and I'm sure we will get a right wing of sorts before the window closes.
After Oct 5th he will be under pressure. Can't get away with as many shit performances this season as he did last.
They are all to blame.
Ole picked a shit line up with 3 known duds but even that should be strong enough to blow away this awful Palace side. He was absent tactically, and the boys could not have looked less motivated if they were actually trying.
Who would we replace him with? Would we back that manager? Would the coaching side of things be revamped and modernised? Who would our transfer targets be? What is the long-term plan?
Sacking Ole doesn't guarantee anything. It just means starting over again, again. And if that replacement doesn't work out, we'll have to start again after that.
I'm not totally convinced that we would make the right appointment after Ole if he were to go.
Sacking Ole doesn't guarantee anything. It just means starting over again, again. And if that replacement doesn't work out, we'll have to start again after that.
I'm not totally convinced that we would make the right appointment after Ole if he were to go.
Now you can't use lack of signings as an excuse for Ole's ineptitude.
Last season first he didn’t have his best team available, then after lockdown we were in great form and played some good football, but then the games came so fast and we just had to win somehow to get top 4 with a paper thin (quality) squad. Then we didn’t have any preseason and the players are just not match fit. So over the last year due to the above he didn’t have that much time to work on improving our play as a team.
Still he should be doing better and the players as well. Most of the players didn’t look like footballers today.
I expect huge improvement over the next few games.
Still he should be doing better and the players as well. Most of the players didn’t look like footballers today.
I expect huge improvement over the next few games.
No title challenge again then. The ambition of this club is top 4 and that's it. This is backed up by net spend when they've qualified for champions league against the seasons when they don't. They always spend less the summer after they've qualified for CL. That's been repeated again this summer. Ole has his hands tied and it's going to be another difficult season. I bet the fans are pleased they don't have to pay to watch that shit.
Great honest post however with teams like Leicester, Wolves, Arsenal and Everton all improving , I fear more like a top 6 team !!
Ladies and Gentlemen, it's been 1 game. Just calm down! Palace have played a few pre-season friendlies and competitive games.
He needs to quit this 4231 shit.
Everyone knows that if you mark bruno out of the game, united are clueless and toothless.
Sancho or not, we should be beating palace.
Seriously, quit this 4231.
Everyone knows that if you mark bruno out of the game, united are clueless and toothless.
Sancho or not, we should be beating palace.
Seriously, quit this 4231.
We looked like a team that hasn't had a preseason. Very poor. Let's overreact and demand him sacked today though.
He's a lucky man. Leicester collapsing and Chelsea faltering really helped him out last season.
The reality, if people actually bothered to look past the veil of Ole being an ex player and club legend, is that he has never been a good manager/coach. It's true he hasn't been backed properly this summer, and that's part of it, however we should not be getting turned over 3-1 by Crystal Palace at home, even our supposedly "world class" players looked absolutely clueless. I've said it before, i'll say it again, as much as I love the guy, backed or not, we will not win the league or anything truly significant with him as our manager, there are much much better alternatives out there.
His sacking is inevitable. Better to do it sooner than lose another season. Because this time i doubt that we will have enough space to catch other rivals for top 4.
I have been ole out since the palace game last year. I don't see him improving us irrespective of the signings we make.
Having said that, I would rather see a change above him as more important than sacking him.If we have a board who are interested in challenging, they would clearly see he isn't good enough.
We are not challenging with any manager with the current board. So I would camp out in the ed/glazer thread to get them out of the club before ole.
Having said that, I would rather see a change above him as more important than sacking him.If we have a board who are interested in challenging, they would clearly see he isn't good enough.
We are not challenging with any manager with the current board. So I would camp out in the ed/glazer thread to get them out of the club before ole.
People wanting Ole out don't get it. Moyes LVG n Jose failed too.
Wake up people. It's not all on the managers. Far from it actually. It's the nobheads running the club.
Wake up people. It's not all on the managers. Far from it actually. It's the nobheads running the club.
Apart from Pool and City, none of the other top 4 contenders had deep squads. Spurs lost Kane for a while. Leceister lost Madison. A thin squad and injuries are not isolated to Ole. He did well to finish 3rd which is where he should have if you compare all the squads.
And this season everyone is in the same boat with a shortened preseason.
We need to stop making excuses for Ole as a manager. He did well enough to earn another season. But now he needs to be held to same standard as Mourinho. He could have fielded a lineup today that would have beat Palace but he didn't. One of the reasons we lost today was because of poor management. Whenever we don't perform well, we go straight ahead and blame transfers and players. That is fair but the manager has to be held accountable as well. We didn't play Barcelona here, we played a less talented team and lost.
All of those managers either weren't good enough or well passed their sell by date. Ole isn't good enough, I would rather he was coaching than managing.
God I wish Ed the chinless bastard hadn't fecked it up with Klopp.
Sums up my feelings well.
I think I'm Ole out. After watching us play it's easy to see we're poorly coached, no style to the way we play at all just mostly aimlessly passing around the ball. Our buildup play is very slow, predictable and pragmatic which gives teams that sit deep time to set their defense. We need new signings sure but we should be beating Palace at home.
So new manager and Woodward and Glazers get away with it again?
You're a sucker for punishment then. Klopp would struggle working with Woodward n Judge.
Club is dead. Back Ole and get these parasites out.
He's a terribly average manager. Top 4 is his ceiling. He coulda been here for another 10 years and would never win anything of importance. There's a reason why any player he's sent to sell his project they ended up signing for other clubs. When Haaland, a player he'd intimately coached, turned him down, that should be the alarm bell.
Never good enough for Manchester United. Nice guy but he's the Daniel James of managers.
Never good enough for Manchester United. Nice guy but he's the Daniel James of managers.
Same here. For me Ole was not good enough from the first day, he’s not good enough now and he won’t be good enough in the future to manage this club.
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