I would disagree. He gave him one or two games here and there, after being tipped off by the youth managers that he was ready for bigger things.
1) Lukaku didn't fit our style but Ighalo does? Ole said few days ago - "we needed different type of striker". Well, Lukaku was that striker ffs.
The point being discussed was what coaching can do for mediocre players, not to bash Klopp or big up Ole. Not every post or opinion is black or white. Klopp is a great coach but even he has his limits, and as been mentioned before, he needs a certain set of players to achieve his vision. Even he cannot turn Moreno, Benteke, or Joe Allen into class players like the ones we see today.
Comparing his spending with other clubs is hardly relevant when we aren't starting on a level playing field, is it? For example, I'm sure Pep spent much much less, does that mean he's overachieving? No, they were already well run as a club, with planning starting as early as 2009.
Not much, really. McTominay's last game was against Newcastle, and obviously Rashford was still fit then.
Yet you see players like Origi, Henderson, Joe Gomez, Lovren, Ox playing a lot better and being part of the team that is unbeatable this season, compared to when they were brought in.
It's just not true though. He started 13 games for Jose in the second half of the season we finished 2nd and was a regular before he got sacked last season. Ole was the one who waited two months into his tenure, until Matic got injured, before playing him.
I don't follow Liverpool so I don't know how it compares with their performances in the last few decades, but I do know that he took over a mediocre squad with one or two stars (Coutinho). He got rid of a donkey that didn't fit his style (Benteke) and a few other deadwood like Joe Allen. Brought in a few good signings like Mane, who contributed 13 goals. Interesting fact: Rashford has already surpassed Mane in his first season, and we're only about 2/3 into the season. Martial is also in his best goal scoring season.
Steady, he finished 4th, 7 points from 6th. One big difference between his squad and Ole, is that he had Coutinho who chipped in 13 goals. Our Pogba has been out injured. If he was fit and firing like he was last season, it'd be a different story. Klopp also had some of his midfielders contribute, Wijnaldum with 6, Can 5, Lallana 8. Our equivalent: Mata 0, Lingard 0, Fred 0, James 3, Greenwood 4. So, hardly miles better results, especially considering how we've trashed a couple of big teams already this season. The results and performances were always going to be inconsistent with this young squad.
Why would anyone want that?
It's no cult. It's oppo fans, WUMs, and relatives of Ole. No point in arguing with them. Make good use of the ignore button.
When you say got rid of most of the deadwood you do realize that Sanchez, Smalling and Rojo will be back in around 5 months.
Our record this season is 9-8-8, that is pathetic. It's a midtable record. How can any of you still want this clown?
Good point.
In fact, any poster who tries to invoke Sir Alex or Klopp in defence of Ole, is gonna be instantly ignored. Every single last one of them knows their arguments are bullshit and you just end up going in circles with them constantly moving the bar.
"Klopp took time and finished 8th, you lot would've sacked him" - Erm, Klopp improved their position from 12th 8th in his first part season.
"Klopp needed time, he didn't build a title winning squad straight away" - Erm no, but he had a miles better first full season than Ole in every single aspect.
"Yeah but Klopp had Countino, Pogba has been injured" - Arrrgghhhhhhhhh
Yup, defo ignore from now on.
Yeah the Klopp comparisons are insane, regardless of what you think about Solskjaer.
