More likely we will have more games played than points.
Would you sack or keep Ole? (Poll reopened)
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So basically if there’s a breakaway European super league we might very well win the inaugural season when every team is assumed to be a top team we’ll go the first season without losing. Then the following season we’ll revert to being crap once the statuses are known ....
Now I see Ed and Ole’s masterplan put us down in history to rival Real Madrid
Now I see Ed and Ole’s masterplan put us down in history to rival Real Madrid
We can talk all we like about injuries Ole has had to deal with, having a dog shite midfield etc etc but why does Ole continue with these crap tactics against the lesser teams. He does not mix it up and every manager know our predictable line up and style of play. This is all in Ole's remit to change and he doesn't.
Worst points tally in the midseason point since I don't know how many decades, and people still trying to spin it in a positive way. Y'all should go work for Labour if you are that eager to decorate a turd.
I changed to keep a while ago. Not because I think he has what it takes. If the option "keep for the season and professionalise the club before hiring a top manager in the summer" I'd vote that.
Dalglish the following season, actually won a league cup (their first trophy for 6 years) & got to the FA cup final too. They still got rid of him for coming 8th, citing poor results.
What are we going to win this season i wonder? We'll likely be out of the two domestic competitions in a few weeks.
Can you imagine if Ole lucks out and produces similar results this season? Fans will want him knighted no doubt.
We're going nowhere. The sooner this nostalgia filled mind trip that the fans are on ends, the better.
I've seen enough. counter attacking and counter attacking only is not progress.
If he won the title then I wouldn't care less what he did in his second season. You can mot deny that he's gone in at Inter and immediately turned them into challengers something United haven't been since Fergie left. And with this current mentality of settling for mid table shit then I can't see anything improving for us for a long time.You missed his second season meltdown? He fell out with everyone after the club failed to sign Lukaku and you think he would be a good choice for us knowing Ed and the Glazer's?
Hey the flip flippers have been back in voting for the sack again. The glow of beating City has worn off for the flip floppers.
We could keep him to the summer and go for a better manager then. Although we need to get that one spot on and go for the right players in the summer.
Pedantic comment here, but what's with this new tendency of measuring time in terms of transfer windows? I.e. "give Ole two or three more windows". It's not like we normally spend money in January anyway.
That's wasted time. That will mean a new manager will have zero time to add the players he wants.
The people who crucified Jose and who are also doing a campaign to drive Pogba out of United support and protect Ole 100% because it allows them to have more influence over the club. Otherwise, Ole would have been sacked already.
Ed & the Glazers don’t really care if he is a legend or not.
I agree Ole needs to leave. But we also more than anything need to have a DOF. I don’t think a DOF means Ed isn’t involved in the club and perhaps also involved in transfer negotiations. To the contrary, Ed’s role as CEO will be easier if a respected figure such as Van Der Sar is appointed DOF.
Really dont mind the normal ones on both sides, in or out but those who throwing insults at Ole for no reason and those with sheep mentality on their high horses, thinking they are wise, spinning stuff on propaganda level, oh man.
It’s just an excuse for Ole.
Definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Much like Ole's game plans.
Much like Ole's game plans.
It's exactly what you asked, you asked how bad would it have to get before I'd want Ole sacked and I answered it, worse than it is now which all things considered isn't as bad as it could be
He is probably still trying out the same things he did months back and wondering why it doesnt work. I mean we havent changed anything the way we play with possession against lower table teams from the end of last season or beginning of this season. It is hilarious if it wasnt so tragic.
One of the worst managers we had in 50 years and yet he still has nearly 50% support... feck me we deserve all the shite we get, our fans are deluded.
I’ve been following United for 30 years. I desperately want OGS to succeed. Desperately. We have just lost, comfortably, to the team that is bottom of the league. This is with our best 11, bar Pogba, who came on in the second half. This is after a draw at home against a very poor Everton side. I really don’t understand how any fan cannot be concerned with this and are looking to put the blame on a team/ squad that is clearly better than the team at the bottom of the table. I mean, come on, all of us that want things to be better and believe we are going in the right direction, what are your genuine thoughts on this result? Put aside agendas, what do you believe this says about the way the team is being set up? 2-0 loss to the bottom side in the premier league.
Hmm, smell a butthurt...I didn’t judge you, never mind “attempted to insult” you, man. You started by calling me a bad poster and then got offended.
If you want to start a fight, learn to keep track of what you are posting. The best thing, as I said earlier, just stuck to the cartoons. There are newer ones for you to watch. Tom&Jerry, for example. Catch up.
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Tactics me here and tactics me there. United created more than enough chances, and individual errors costed United the game.
For the sake of my personal wellbeing & mental health would Woodward please just get on with the inevitable. I will always love Ole & will have no hard feelings, but unfortunately, it hasn't worked out. Let's start 2020 with a qualified manager with fresh ideas - *Looks at Pochettino*
I’d give him the summer window ideally, then next season, he’s on sack watch if he cannot then our fortunes.
every minute he spends at the club is bringing us more to the end as a big club, by the time he is sacked, it will be too late and too difficult to come back from that. This manager is not at the level of managing one of the greatest football clubs with 600 m supporter around the world. His level is a small Norwegian team with 20k supporters, that is his level, and even that level is big for him. I wish we wake up tomorrow on the news of sacking him, but I know it wont happen. The respect I have for him is gone as a manager, because he has no respect for himself and have no love left in him to the club. If he truly loves the club, then he should go to Ed in the early morning and hand in his resignation, but he will not do that, he will not walk away from 6m pounds a year. Imagine being so shit at your job, yet you get 6m pounds a year, why would you leave that?
How about zero minute.
No plan other than hoping the pace of the front 3 makes something happen. Defensively we are e very easy to unsettle too. Worst team in the league at attacking corners, and not very good at defending them either.
So knocked out by City, knocked out by Wolves and the continuation of this form heading for 50 point finish... you still want him to see the season out or is there a point you say, sorry not for me?
If we are 9th come mid Feb and out of the cups?
I still find it amazing how split the fan base are on this even though we have been in our worst position in years.
I get fans want it to work with Ole. Of course we do, he’s an ex-player getting his dream job. It would be an amazing story if he was successful.
You’d honestly give him at least 2 years in charge even with this form? My God.
Who’s flip flopping? Everyone here seems consistent.
If he goes on and signs more players that favor defensive style and playing on the counter like the 3 he signed, that will hurt us even more long term. Ideally he should get this season and just that. His vision in signing and play style isn't something to warrant more transfer markets. He will probably just make us even more defensive and counter attacking, while the target should be playing offensive football.
I keep saying this. Because Ole is the first manager since Fergie to attempt a rebuild that doesn't mean he's the best at it or only one that can do it.
Ole said in his last press conference "Expect more inconsistent results"
If Moyes had said that, the banner and a plane would be at the ready to fly over OT. But because Ole is loved by the fans as a player, he gets a pass.
Notice i said "Loved as a player"
The guy is tactically clueless, as are his coaching staff.
Time to go Ole.
If Moyes had said that, the banner and a plane would be at the ready to fly over OT. But because Ole is loved by the fans as a player, he gets a pass.
Notice i said "Loved as a player"
The guy is tactically clueless, as are his coaching staff.
Time to go Ole.
I don't get these stupid soundbites. Why is it we have to keep having crap results before we get good ones? It's insanity. Is it suddenly all just going to click or something? I could understand it if the players were learning some kind of new elaborate system, but there isn't one.
I don’t think we’re near seeing what his ultimate vision is. I do agree with you that this counter attacking plan is not the answer and is too reactive for a team who wants to win things, but I think it’s too early to say that is the case.
Personally, I think this is just phase one. Laying some foundations in terms of culture and attitude. Phase two is crucial. He needs to get more quality, especially in the middle of the park, as we cannot keep setting up to stop teams beating us first and foremost, and need to try and go and win first and foremost.
I just think if we change now, we’ll never see the butterfly, and we will always be at the caterpillar phase and will continue to happen if we keep changing managers. Obviously there is a limit, but so long as Ole seems to have a semblance of a vision and the players are playing for him - I am with him - for now!
No need waiting any longer, we arent getting any better. The sooner we get someone in to work on attacking patterns the better.
For me it is so obvious by just looking at the players he just signed, that this is his plan and nothing else. As I mentioned in another post, he signed a slow defender that can't play in a high line, a very defensive fullback and a winger whose trick is to run with pace in spaces and cross. Hardly any of his signings were suited for offensive football. They all favor playing defensive and hitting opposition on the counter, rather than doing things while having possession. I'm not sure if that wasn't his plan for the team why he would sign 3 players that favor just that. Could have favored signing players that favor possession and doing things with the ball in the feet, or a more pacey defender to play a high line but nope. For this, I honestly don't like his vision and don't want it to rule here. I have seen nothing of him to suggest it will be anything different than that. He will probably sign on more players that are good on the counter and builds a more defensive team that is just more efficient on the counter.
It is the easiest excuse a clueless novice manager can give to buy as much time as he can to fool some of the fans (and the board if they are incompetent enough) to stay as long as possible in a job that he will never ever ever be near when he will be sacked. He knows it, his fan club knows it, and I bet even our board knows it but they are afraid to sack him because that will make them look more stupid than the manager himself.
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