I haven't seen Juve much apart from few CL games, if his teams mostly play like they do in the CL then we can give him the job, it he is anything like "park the bus and hoof it long" Mourinho, then no.
Would you give the job to Allegri right now?
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That's not what your OP stated . You said if we buy players from lower teams we will end up in that position which is nonsense . If you recruit well you can buy quality from these lower teams .
He could be a good appointment but the club really needs to establish a plan mid and long term and develop a football style. Ideally you would want someone different than Allegri though as right now you need a manager able to develop a team and not someone you would hire to challenge with an already strong team, so maybe someone like Pochettino seems like the perfect fit or maybe trying to get Gallardo if you want a promising manager that is on the rise.
No under any circumstances
There's nothing long term or right about hiring Allergi. He's the opposite of what we should be about and looking for. I get people are desperate, but this would be so illogical.
No. It would be a signing of convenience which is the exact mistake we have been reliving over the past 7 years.
So who can you realistically get?
Few things bug me as much as the lazy Allegri-Mourinho comparison. Allegri is NOTHING like him.
If you're going to make a comparison with a former United manager it would be Ferguson. He is smart, amazing tactician, instinctive, sees a few games, days, weeks, months ahead. He is flexible and adaptable. Everyone who's been around him lauds him as an incredible man manager. He is calm, encouraging, great sense of humor. A teacher.
If you want more insight read this piece from the Players Tribune he wrote after CL final defeat in Cardiff: https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/massimiliano-allegri-juventus-the-principal
If you're going to make a comparison with a former United manager it would be Ferguson. He is smart, amazing tactician, instinctive, sees a few games, days, weeks, months ahead. He is flexible and adaptable. Everyone who's been around him lauds him as an incredible man manager. He is calm, encouraging, great sense of humor. A teacher.
If you want more insight read this piece from the Players Tribune he wrote after CL final defeat in Cardiff: https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/massimiliano-allegri-juventus-the-principal
Honestly I don't know. I would place Allegri as being more in the Mourinho school of tactics than the Pep or Klopp school of tactics and I don;t think overly defensive football is going to help us catch up to City and liverpool.
Why would any quality players in the lower teams want to join us?? Unless we pay over the odds. There are 4-5 teams better than us at the moment.
This is not FIFA where you you buy young quality players who go on to become superstars/ very good players.
Post Fergie, look at our finish in the table. We are one or two years away from midtable status.
Lets just buy more average sqaud players who will be deadwood in the near future. And the cycle continues.
yes... I wanted him before Ole got the job. I know he might not be the most exiting but first things first: get some wins and start climbing league
Don’t be quick to judge Pochettino....Just look at what happened to Klopp in his final season at Dortmund...Dortmund finished 7th and the bundesliga doesn’t have as many top teams as the PL....But because Klopp had built up a huge reputation because of what he did before at Dortmund,Liverpool ignored his disastrous final season.
Klopp at Dortmund and Pochettino at Spurs have got their teams to punch above their weight for years and years....It’s just inevitable that things will eventually come to a crushing end in such an environment.Dont judge Pochettino on this season,he’s a phenomenal manager and we would be very lucky to get him...
If that’s his dream club,then I would give Allegri the job today...The only better option to Allegri is Pochettino....
He won a one team league with a side Conte built . He has done nothing to suggest he could succeed at Utd
There would be discontent within weeks with his tedious football. Fans have put up with 7 years of this tosh, are getting restless, & will no longer be willing to give someone like this multiple transfer windows to get their own players. On the other hand, if a manager came in to play a good attacking brand of football & had a plan, they would be treated far more sympathetic.
Conte built nothing. Marotta and paratici built the team, the same team conte ridiculed when he left (you can't eat in a 100 euro restaurant with 10 euros jibe).allegri simply took that team 1 game away from the treble
I'd give it to his oppositonally defiant brother...Allegro ohh!
I have to say no. As much as I hate this situation I don’t think any managerial change should happen. Unless we’re in serious danger come the end of the season.
We have to reassess the situation come the second half of the season once we’ve hopefully strengthened the squad somewhat with new recruits.
You know defensively this team has been pretty sound. We’ve not shipped many goals. we’re just craving some attackers. I just pray we can snap some talent up.
Last thing we need is to bring someone like allegri in to change our philosophy.
We have to reassess the situation come the second half of the season once we’ve hopefully strengthened the squad somewhat with new recruits.
You know defensively this team has been pretty sound. We’ve not shipped many goals. we’re just craving some attackers. I just pray we can snap some talent up.
Last thing we need is to bring someone like allegri in to change our philosophy.
Well, can you please give some detailed information about just why we should give him the time that an increasing number on the caf are reluctant to give Ole?
I'm not being snide - I'd like to hear about Pochettino's achievements given he has done little with Spurs except take them to an important final which Spurs lost. Not that this is a black mark as football games sometimes can go the way of the less dominant team, luck has a role etc. I am hearing that he should be given some years to re-build but when it is suggested that we do that precisely with Ole or at least give him two more transfer windows, some here get all snippy and derisive about the idea.
How has dealt with a young squad before? Because that's what he'll have from now till end of season so not sure appointing him now would make any sense. We are not in the CL, barely hanging in the league, still in the cups, we just need that one bloody win to lift the pressure off us...
If you are seriously asking why quality players in lower teams would want to join Man United then you are either a yum or you need educated on the club I support
Cool I’ll choose to be yummy then
What Mauricio Pochettino has acheived at Tottenham is nothing short of a minor miracle.On a wafer thin budget for all these years to establish Spurs as a top 4 club,while playing a brand of attacking football,while promoting young British players throughout his squad and improving practically every member of his team is a phenomenal achievement.
It’s laughable and utterly idiotic to imply that he hasn’t achieved anything at Spurs....
So let's get him in to choose us a new set of players.
Then get another new manager to win us some trophies.
Ac Milan have just sacked their manager so they may go for Allegri
Because Lemsip takes the physical pain away, even if it can't stop you mulling over your coming end?
While he obviously has a pedigree and understands the pressure of a big club, I’d be disappointed if we appointed Allegri to be honest. His Juve team were pretty uninspiring and I’m hoping we go for someone who will encourage exciting football.
Not for me. Brendon Rodgers might be able to make a fist of it, some have even mentioned Eddie Howe. Either would have us playing better football.
SAF goals per game: 1.85
"Defensive" manager Allegri at Juventus: 1.93
"Defensive" manager Allegri at Milan: 1.81 (only had Ibra for 2/4 seasons)
"Offensive" manager Pochettino at Tottenham: 1.90
The only truly good truly attacking managers right now are Klopp and Pep. And Pep is the only one who kept the goal average above 2 throughout his career. Everyone and everything else depends on their situation.
"Defensive" manager Allegri at Juventus: 1.93
"Defensive" manager Allegri at Milan: 1.81 (only had Ibra for 2/4 seasons)
"Offensive" manager Pochettino at Tottenham: 1.90
The only truly good truly attacking managers right now are Klopp and Pep. And Pep is the only one who kept the goal average above 2 throughout his career. Everyone and everything else depends on their situation.
Pep has never not managed the strongest team in the league either.
Yes if not for his english. How do you expect to manage a team in the premier league if you don't speak the language? What kind of rapport and connection can you develop with players if you can't communicate with them?
I had the same reservation about Zidane though less so cuz Zidane is the legend of the game and the respect is there regardless of what language he speaks. Allegri doesn't have that.
So all in all, definitely sold on him as a manager. But cuz of the language barrier, Imma have to go with naaaaah on this one.
I had the same reservation about Zidane though less so cuz Zidane is the legend of the game and the respect is there regardless of what language he speaks. Allegri doesn't have that.
So all in all, definitely sold on him as a manager. But cuz of the language barrier, Imma have to go with naaaaah on this one.
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Why not bring in Domenico Tedesco as head coach until the end of the season? Stick with him if he's successful. At least the tactics will be attacking.
I believe he's immediately available.
I believe he's immediately available.
Can't we wait for a manager renown for their attacking philosophy instead. Allegri whilst a good manager stull feels like all the managers we have had so far.
Of course he hasn't. He's one of the greatest managers ever. He manages great teams. Well he made Barca the strongest team. Bayern was already there. City probably was but it was close between them and a few others. He made them what they are today.
It really baffles me to no end how many people find every single little thing wrong with successful managers from strength of their team to playing style. Yet new hipster managers are the way to go. Do people actually think it's easier to manager Juve than Tottenham? Leipzig? Ajax? Monchengladbach?
Pressure, expectations, amount of work and level of games and opponents - it's not even close. Put Allegri, Mourinho, Conte, Klopp, Pep at any of those clubs and they'd still be hugely successful. OTOH there's tons of examples of sexy new managers failing under the weight of expectations at big clubs. That's why it's so funny to me when people say 'It's easy to win with Juve'. feck all it is.
Don't let the facts get in the way of Caf's expert opinions, such as Italian = defensive. We need someone hungry and local like Howe (Moyes 2.0). Or maybe the next Klopp like one of those trendy Bundesliga managers who have achieved nothing in their careers so far (even though Klopp himself already had won titles and reached CL final before Liverpool hired him).
Hope you realize that many of us complained about how boring we were under SAF btw. We put up with it because Fergie was there for decades winning us many titles. We don't have to put up with defensive football under a new manager who has no relation to United like Fergie did.
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Allegri s stats are based on Serie A games where difference between top and bottom teams is huge
Exactly.
The shortsightedness on here is mind boggling. You’d get “new manager bounce” again until EW starts to dance to the Glazers tune and interfering. Get these feckers out and then we can start looking at managers.
Thing is how will we know if the first 13 games he wins straight are just new manager bounce?