We all agreed that a midfield addition makes us challengers?
For me it does, provided Pogba stays.
For me it does, provided Pogba stays.
Wot, 3 transfers :) but no sales :(
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Woodward is still in charge. He hasn't left the club. Matt Judge is still doing the negotiations. Murtough is not involved in transfers. Transfers are overseen by Solskjær and Mick Court.
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"Murtough (...) does not oversee the club's recruitment, with the director of football negotiations Matt Judge still the point of contact to discuss a prospective target's terms.
The recruitment process is still largely overseen by manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer and the technical chief scout Mick Court, as well as his team in the recruitment department."
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...an-united-transfer-news-murtough-20988226.amp
Regardless if Pogba does stay or not, I still say we need to bring in at least a defensive midfielder before the window closes.
Is it necessary to have a defensive mid? Couldn’t it be a holding mid who dictates play, after all that’s what carrick and scholes were. With a solid defence I don’t think we need a player whose main role is as a tackler/interceptor in there.
Yep, Carrick style DM would do nicely. Positionally v good but has two good feet to pass from deep.
Agree 100%
After a decade of banging my head against the wall when it came to decision making within United, I've got to say I'm struggling to come to terms with this new style of organised effectiveness.
Right winger - check
World class centre back - check
New coach to specialise in set piece defence and beating the press - check
And it's not even bloody August yet. Who is this club we're looking at, and what have they done with the clowns who were running show for the last 10 years?
Right winger - check
World class centre back - check
New coach to specialise in set piece defence and beating the press - check
And it's not even bloody August yet. Who is this club we're looking at, and what have they done with the clowns who were running show for the last 10 years?
I think the key differences regarding transfer negotiations are more nuanced than organisational changes. Previously, no one knew who the first point of contact was at United. That was changed to Murtough (for general matters) and Judge (for transfer negotiations according to this article). Also, we used to send out lawyers to kick off talks, whilst it looks like that's not necessarily the case nowadays given how much smoother the talks have been.
Fair point mate.
At the start, I rubbed my nose at it but the more I think about it, the more I think a player like Ruben Neves could be very useful in that role. I know he isn’t a muppet sort of signing in the same bracket as Sancho & Varane are but he can play that deep lying playmaker role as we’ve seen him do at Wolves but can also be a tackler/interceptor in there as well as the below link shows. Pretty much an all-rounder in that role.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....60-interceptions-and-tackles-this-season/amp/
I completely agree. He’s a holding mid who can do the dirty work and play forward. We’ve have a huge issue with getting the ball to our forwards quickly and he can do that.
sadly there are few reputable sources that rate our interest in him as legitimate.
Yep, pretty much why I’d be very open to this signing but as you said, not much word going around that he is the midfielder we are looking at.
Don’t know who is though tbh.
3 transfers!
Yeah I would be very happy with any of Saul/Neves/Camavinga because don't think we necessarily need a star name
Amen
Haha, +1
If we sign Neves before the window closes, and get rid of some of the balast we have, we may need to praise Glazers and ask Woodward to stay?
It feels like Murtough and maybe Darren Fletcher should get some credit for us not being a clusterfeck of disorganized mess, anymore? The timing of us starting to look like a properly managed club in recruitement and their appointments suspiciously coincide...
Give the credit to Solskjær, who probably is the main person behind the direction the club is heading. He doesn't get enough credit. Murtough does seem like a good organiser, so he'll likely be a good man for the club, but he's not in charge of transfers if the reports are right.
Getting a player like Varane isn't due to Murtough, but a chain of coincidences. He wants to leave, Real Madrid is struggling financially, Covid-19, etc. It's an easier market to negotiate in now if you have the funds available due to Covid-19. Just look at what we got Sancho for. Same people involved in the deal.
People like Judge and Woodward aren't idiots. You have to run a club like Manchester United as a business. And they are limited by the budget the Glazers approve.
If its a ball playing DM, yes. We need basically a younger Matic or Carrick. Would be perfect.
I think Neves fits the bill and has experience of the league. He would probably jump at the chance to join us, too.
I wonder if Wolves would have an interest in Lingard - could do a part swap. I'd be very happy with our business if we pull that off.
I’m sure we’d be interested in that swap but I doubt lingard would want a move to Wolves. I think he’d much rather play in London or be sold to a club in Spain or Italy.
Sky Sports headlines suggest we won’t be signing anyone else unless Pogba goes. What an absolute joke.
Entitled much?
I would imagine one key difference in having Murtough and Fletcher is that Glazers and woodword now have footballing people to advice them on whether a target makes sense for the club in the long run even if the manager is advising them to buy someone for their short-term reasons (not that Ole has been doing that but having burnt their hands with LVG and Mourinho, Glazers are bound to be suspicious of the targets their managers give them). Probably that helps the club to determine how much to push for certain players and they are able to give more specific guidance to Judge than remain confused over the issue.
Previously, I can imagine United being in two minds over whether to pay 50 million euros for Varane or not and the mixed signals possibly pissing off Real Madrid and the player in the process.
We've just spent over 100 million in a covid affected economy..
Yeah, that certainly helps, and the fact that Murtough and Ole aren't butting heads with each other (so far) is a sign that the whole club is unified and willing to commit to a certain direction involving Ole. It also helps that Ole is using all of the resources at United rather than his own personal networks (like Mourinho and LVG did, previously).
Should we have already spent a billion?
We really need to get half a dozen off the wages it's as important to the budget as anything.
I give full credit to them - 2 massive signings and worrying about trimming the wages came second.
Hopefully there will be a minor cull and we can then get someone else who is better.
Actually getting excited for next season tbh. I'm still somewhat skeptical due to the shit show that the time after SAF has been but I actually think we made two great transfers that will really strengthen the team.
I think both can have as big an impact if not bigger as Bruno. I'm very excited we are seriously starting to look like a very good team.
Poor Tom Heaton
No one is really interested, he's just a sideshow.
Are we going to fecking sell anybody?
We have some valuable assets which we don't need in the current squad, when are we going to send them off to a new home?
And I'm not talking about Pogba, I think it would be a mistake to let him go.
We have some valuable assets which we don't need in the current squad, when are we going to send them off to a new home?
And I'm not talking about Pogba, I think it would be a mistake to let him go.
Yeah bang on we need to start selling some players outside of Pogba like Matic, Lingard, Pereira
100% untrue.
All the usual club journos said new additions is dependant on sales, but noone specifically mentioned Pogba. Most of the were abit vague as well (probably, most likely, major et.)
I think Euros, COVID situation and injures have changed a few things. The 3 big players that could fetch us the most that we know we could get good fees for Williams, James and Lingard. Williams probably would have gone out but Telles injury kept him here for now. Dan James would have been for sale but Rashfords injury is keeping him here till January. I think Lingard is still here for a few more weeks to see if West Ham are still broke and check on Bruno fitness. I think last 2 weeks of August we’ll sales and loans out.
It's a bit shortsighted to throw £50M down the drain for the sake of a few months injuries.
Real suprise the busiest thread for 2 season has only 3 pages this time around. Well done so far should I say?
Title change to see if it moves things along at all
Who I expect leave very soon:
- Either Pereira or Lingard
- Dalot if Trippy arrives
- James
- Either Jones, Bailly or Lindelof
- Williams on loan
It would be strange to have this big squad coming into season. I expect atleast 2-3 departures from senior players. It doesn't make any sens having so many players when we also have young talent coming from under.
It’s 3 transfers!